Krauser v.s. Sam Fisher

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Leon is strong enough to cause a man's head to explode with a kick =l

Rampant PIS.

In the game, he can dodge bullets, as well as dash at Leon a la Wesker.

Tell me, has Fisher reacted to a bullet timer?

There are normal humans that can shatter stone with bare hands. Kick too, if you want to use something with more firepower. So he can explode heads with a kick. Good for him.

PIS. Funny how that word comes up every time someone has a showing that could put him higher. Just because he has lived through worse, does not mean having suffered damage from less is PIS.

Batman can dodge bullets too. Bullets shot from behind without him being prepared. The fact that Krauser can, does not impress me one bit.

Wesker dashes are not as impressive as the forum has made them out to be, sorry to say. Wesker move fast, but his attack speed is not even above peak human. You said Krauser was an inferior version of Wesker's speed? That makes him fightable. Besides, dodging bullets is an overhyped feat.

He has not fought a bullet timer. Has Krauser fought a Krav Maga master?

sam has no chance here,Krouser is way too strong and more experienced as far as actual combad...and plus his knife is a lot larger lol

Originally posted by menokokoro
sam has no chance here,Krouser is way too strong and more experienced as far as actual combad...and plus his knife is a lot larger lol

Strength only get you so far. Krav Maga (Like most martial arts) among other things is developed to best stronger and larger opponents through technique rather than physical fitness. As I said, Krauser could bench press eighteen wheelers and it would still not give him the edge. Krav Maga ultilize vulnerable points on your body and to apply force to pressure point, taking grown men down with a touch of your hand or foot.

As for experience, Sam Fisher has been in war since he was thirteen years old, and has been working for SEAL for twenty, until he TRADED UP and joined Third Echelon. Sam Fisher is a 53 year old man that has dedicated his life to killing people in mainly CQC.

He outskill elite soldiers, including Third Echelon troops as if they are fresh from diapers.

Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]There are normal humans that can shatter stone with bare hands. Kick too, if you want to use something with more firepower. So he can explode heads with a kick. Good for him.

PIS. Funny how that word comes up every time someone has a showing that could put him higher. Just because he has lived through worse, does not mean having suffered damage from less is PIS.

Batman can dodge bullets too. Bullets shot from behind without him being prepared. The fact that Krauser can, does not impress me one bit.

Wesker dashes are not as impressive as the forum has made them out to be, sorry to say. Wesker move fast, but his attack speed is not even above peak human. You said Krauser was an inferior version of Wesker's speed? That makes him fightable. Besides, dodging bullets is an overhyped feat.

He has not fought a bullet timer. Has Krauser fought a Krav Maga master? [/B]

Never heard of that =l

Because Leon can totally deal with a guy who is strong enough to, while weakened, throw a metal bar through concrete, can dodge bullets, and can tank an explosion and be buried under tons of rock in close combat rite?

Batman is a physical God and would destroy Fisher even easier then Krauser would, so I dun't see your point.

k.

Nope =)

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Never heard of that =l

Because Leon can totally deal with a guy who is strong enough to, while weakened, throw a metal bar through concrete, can dodge bullets, and can tank an explosion and be buried under tons of rock in close combat rite?

Batman is a physical God and would destroy Fisher even easier then Krauser would, so I dun't see your point.

k.

Nope =)

Explains why you think busting heads is so worth talking about for a supposed superhuman.

Obviously. He cut him.

My point is that Batman is a fictional normal human. Not superhuman. Not superspeed. The fact that Krauser can dodge bullets mean nothing. Absolutely nothing, and especially not in CQC, where an entirely different type of speed is applied.
Dodging bullets is one thing, small as they are and with their straight lines of fire, but dodging a swing or a kick is not necessarily easier. And yes, I am talking fiction here, because while a bullet is way faster, by seeing where a gun is pointing, you can rapidly and with utter ease predict the path of the bullet and dodge it.

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Case closed. The concept of the question is the same. Sam has not fought what you believe is adequate to take him down, and Krauser has not fought what I believe is adequate to take him down.

Because I have never heard of IRL humans capable of busting heads?

Then I guess Leon's strikes = Massive explosions

Batman is not a "normal" human. He is the definition of peak human. Also, Fiction =/= IRL

You think heads are more durable than stone?

Just because he pulled a head explosion of, does not mean every strike he has is the equivalent of the force required to blow a head to smitherines. Especially not a glancing swing like he did with the knife.

Are you saying that RE and Krauser is IRL material, but Batman is not?

I concede as I dun't care enough about Krauser to continue =l

I never really seen Sam with knife fighting skills though I'm sure he should have some, but his reflexes definately seem pretty above human norms now.

Atleast when it comes to his gunplay.

Leon is far faster and more agile than Sam
YouTube video

Durability and toughess? Sam doesn't even come close.
YouTube video

Krauser pwns Sam.

Sam can 'dodge bullets' too. He dodges Shetland's cheap-shot (pun intended) at him in what I think is the canon choice 313

That laser feat is something I would have to say Fisher is capable of and I have no idea what that had to do with speed btw only agility.

Sam doesn't get pimp slapped like Leon.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
That laser feat is something I would have to say Fisher is capable of and I have no idea what that had to do with speed btw only agility.

Sam doesn't get pimp slapped like Leon.

Frankly, the pimp slap that G mutant gave Leon would probably break Sam to pieces.

Like I said though, Sam doesn't get pimp slapped. I don't think he has ever been hurt much in his games or novels.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Like I said though, Sam doesn't get pimp slapped. I don't think he has ever been hurt much in his games or novels.

Sam doesn't fight BOWs though.

Sam is better trained than all the S.T.A.R.S. as far as I remember none of them have any militant background or spent as much time in S.T.A.R.S. as Sam did in the Seals alone.

At least Chris joined the Air Force first, unless Wesker did something other than be a scientist, Chris probably had the most combat experience/training coming into the force.

and yet the small step from the police force survives the BOWs, most of them never had any sort of police training at the least, they just studied something special at college that that the S.T.A.R.S. could use.

I don't think Leon was ever even a member of S.T.A.R.S., but look at the stuff he pulls off.

He never even got to be a real member of the police squad, the first day and most of the department is (un)dead.

Thats why I'm saying that Fisher should be able to do the same considering he has to use his agility and speed more often than Leon (lets face it, slow zombies and bugbrainedwashed villagers aren't necessary to run from) and the more well armed opponents Fisher faces, he doesn't make mistakes or get caught by suprise so he can have a durability test on what kind of punishment he can take.

But anyway its a knife fight. Like I said I never really seen him use his knife skills, but he has deadly CQC skills.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't think Leon was ever even a member of S.T.A.R.S., but look at the stuff he pulls off.

Leon was a member of the force that was to replace S.T.A.R.S., which was a step up from SWAT

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Nah. It's not.

When you shoot at him?

Leon can shoot himself?