Thor and hercules vs. Silver surfer

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
team wins. both thor and herc as as strong if not stronger than surfer.

even rhino pwned surfer

Except Surfer beat Rhino...

Ravenous used those creatures to drain Surfer's PC in their first fight IIRC

Really? I don't remember that but thanks for reinforcing my point I guess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Yes Silver Surfer was wining but it's not something he would not be capable off before. Norrin attacked him from behind and took the advantage. Seeing as it's a split between the two in terms of power I don't see the problem. On the flip side, Bill kicked Norrin's ass when he took him by surprise.
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There is quite a difference between the bills flash Ko of a totally non-battle ready Norrin and Norrin comprehensively beating the hell out of a pissed off battle ready Bill (while holding back) after using a the board blitz (a tactic he has used time and time again). Moreover in direct character comparisons surfer has been referred to as being more powerful than Bill as well.

Originally posted by Naija boy
There is quite a difference between the bills flash Ko of a totally non-battle ready Norrin and Norrin comprehensively beating the hell out of a pissed off battle ready Bill (while holding back) after using a the board blitz (a tactic he has used time and time again). Moreover in direct character comparisons surfer has been referred to as being more powerful than Bill as well.

Being ready for battle doesn't really help you against a highly durable board that was probably moving at speeds faster than light (Wasn't it keeping up with the ship?) striking you at the back of your neck. It's not really that much different when Bill jumps in knocks Norrin out after a sucker hit to the head and a follow up blow. And Bill had suffered serious wounds from Thor at the time as I recall.

I mean it's not as if Bill was bracing for the blow. He was blocking an energy attack from Norrin.

Big difference.......

And thanks to Galan for the scans. To lazy to log on to my photobucket.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Being ready for battle doesn't really help you against a highly durable board that was probably moving at speeds faster than light (Wasn't it keeping up with the ship?) striking you at the back of your neck. It's not really that much different when Bill jumps in knocks Norrin out after a sucker hit to the head and a follow up blow. And Bill had suffered serious wounds from Thor at the time as I recall.

I mean it's not as if Bill was bracing for the blow. He was blocking an energy attack from Norrin.

Big difference.......

And thanks to Galan for the scans. To lazy to log on to my photobucket.

It is quite common in comics that when characters happen to be in "battle mode" i.e actually engaged in battle, they are able to take more attacks from their opponents regardless of the nature (whether from the front or the back). But that was not even the point which u missed. The point of that post was that the surfer example came within actual battle settings, is valid and can be replicated if such a battle arises again.

The instance of bill koing surfer however happened out of "battlemode" and cannot be replicated as Surfer showed that he can indeed take two shots from an even angrier bill with little or no damage. Hence when making character comparisons in regards to a battle between them, surfers feat is entirely relevant while Bills is not.

I gotta go Naija but I'll get back to this tomorrow. I could answer this but it would be half assed when typing with one hand.

The God duo wins

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
. It's not really that much different when Bill jumps in knocks Norrin out after a sucker hit to the head and a follow up blow.
I mean it's not as if Bill was bracing for the blow. He was blocking an energy attack from Norrin.

Big difference.......

And thanks to Galan for the scans. To lazy to log on to my photobucket.


You are serious here? The scan is from IW pretty much required those guys to be K.O due to plot device. In the same issue bill was K.O'ed with like 3 punches.

When Bill and Surfer fought both parties were expecting to take damage. Also bill really couldn't do anything if he is attacked by both side his forcefield won't be able to handle Surfer levels of attack.

Hercules is a non factor here, as stated before, and SS takes a majority from Thor IMO.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

It's unclear to what extent he was powered up if he received any power up at all. He told Galactus no etc. It's unclear as to what that was referring to but their is a chance it was referring to the offer of more power.
He said no to Galactus taking away his emotions. Galactus gave him conviction and more power, that part isn't unclear.

Just a small concern/question regarding the scan: Where here was the Surfer ever KOd? I only see him get him and hit again...

Herc adds little to the fight other thna being a minor distraction unless this is Hercules amped to strength of mythical levels where by he can lift the Earth and old up the weight of the heavens
Even then Surfer might remove him by teleporting him away

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C

even rhino pwned surfer

Stop trolling
that kinda nonsense will get you banned

Herc won be any good here..SS beat Thor for a majority..

Surfer wins every time.
Thor gets hammerfaced, yet again.

Surfer already beat down BRB with ease, what more can Thor offer?

Hercules vs Surfer would be good fun if Surfer engaged in a brawl (we've seen how much superior Surfer is against Hulks of various levels of anger, so it's unquestionable that he could go H2H with Hercules)...

lol at Rage's "evidence" ... the Church of Thor is going through some uncomfortable times, high priests are becoming a liiiiittle unhinged, it seems 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Herc won be any good here..SS beat Thor for a majority..
if its grounded team 2 wins in a stomp

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
team wins. both thor and herc as as strong if not stronger than surfer.

even rhino pwned surfer

Wow. If you claim rhino beat Surfer then you didn't read it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow. If you claim rhino beat Surfer then you didn't read it.
i was joking

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i was joking
Really?