Originally posted by Knowsbleed33After Nimrod knocked off his helmet and used a sonic attack, Juggy was down for the rest of the issue. So I'd think that if Nimrod's attack can affect Juggy to such an extent, surely he can be downed for much longer via BB's voice.
Even if he could, how does he keep him down?
...But repeated vocal attacks could also be used (if necessary.)
Originally posted by Galan007
After Nimrod knocked off his helmet and used a sonic attack, Juggy was down for the rest of the issue. So I'd think that if Nimrod's attack can affect Juggy to such an extent, surely he can be downed for much longer via BB's voice....But repeated vocal attacks could also be used (if necessary.)
No he wasn't, he wasn't down until after Nimrod used the synaptic dislocutor.
Regardless, the sonic beam was specific. Something Bolt isn't going to be able to duplicate on the fly.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33He was down long enough for Nimrod to own a handful of X-Men, then walk over to his location and jam his neural impulses. He was down.
No he wasn't, he wasn't down until after Nimrod used the synaptic dislocutor.Regardless, the sonic beam was specific. Something Bolt isn't going to be able to duplicate on the fly.
You don't think BB could duplicate "ultra-high frequency sonics"? Really?
Originally posted by Galan007
He was down long enough for Nimrod to own a handful of X-Men, then walk over to his location and jam his neural impulses. He was down.You don't think BB could duplicate "ultra-high frequency sonics"? Really?
He was on his hands and knees, a small handful of panels later Rachel drops several tons of steel on both of them. Juggernaut isn't down until Nimrod pulls him out with the synaptic dislocutor in his back.
It was more than just "Ultra-high frequencies". It was a focused into a tight beam. No, I don't think Bolt can duplicate that feat on the fly.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Didn't say he was out, but he was down.
He was on his hands and knees, a small handful of panels later Rachel drops several tons of steel on both of them. Juggernaut isn't down until Nimrod pulls him out with the synaptic dislocutor in his back.It was more than just "Ultra-high frequencies". It was a focused into a tight beam. No, I don't think Bolt can duplicate that feat on the fly.
Hmm, interesting. I personally think BB would be more than capable of duplicating said level of sonics. *shrug*
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I view BB's voice as significantly above any tech-based sonics Nimrod has in his arsenal. Thus 'in my scenario' BB would only have to give a decent shout, and Juggy would be down long enough to constitute a forum win.
So, in your scenario, Bolt would have to keeping using these sonics continually.
Originally posted by Galan007
I view BB's voice as significantly above any tech-based sonics Nimrod has in his arsenal. Thus 'in my scenario' BB would only have to give a decent shout, and Juggy would be down long enough to constitute a forum win.
There's nothing to suggest he'd be down long enough. There wasn't very much time between when Nimrod stopped firing the beam and the steel structure fell on top of them.
The beam was just an alternative to TP according to Nimrod. It was something he could use that would affect Juggernaut through his skull cap. There was nothing to suggest it was something he intended to use to put Juggernaut down.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Unless you think that a steel structure falling over Juggs in some way harmed him/kept him down, then it's pointless to bring that up.
There's nothing to suggest he'd be down long enough. There wasn't very much time between when Nimrod stopped firing the beam and the steel structure fell on top of them.The beam was just an alternative to TP according to Nimrod. It was something he could use that would affect Juggernaut through his skull cap. There was nothing to suggest it was something he intended to use to put Juggernaut down.
But the sonic blast still put him down. And if Nimrod's sonics are sufficient, BB's voice would be more than sufficient, imo.
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You know what, here's the entire instance (starting from where Nimrod knocks Juggy's helmet off):
http://img51.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy1.jpg/
http://img180.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy2.jpg/
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy3.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy4.jpg/
http://img156.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy5.jpg/
http://img176.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy6.jpg/
Y'all can decide.
Originally posted by Galan007
Unless you think that a steel structure falling over Juggs in some way harmed him/kept him down, then it's pointless to bring that up.But the sonic blast still put him down. And if Nimrod's sonics are sufficient, BB's voice would be more than sufficient, imo.
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You know what, here's the entire instance (starting from where Nimrod knocks Juggy's helmet off):
http://img51.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy1.jpg/
http://img180.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy2.jpg/
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy3.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy4.jpg/
http://img156.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy5.jpg/
http://img176.imageshack.us/i/nimrodjuggy6.jpg/Y'all can decide.
Except they didn't put him down. The synaptic dislocutor did.
