I've never found Leo to be that bad, but I have to say I am not a fan of people being really rude or belittling in matches. I'd never consciously judge based on that of course, but someone who relies on insults probably will end seeming less impressive to me.
BTW, im glad i'm judging Smurph/OV instead of Psycho/BW, mine is way easier... not because it's one sided but just because both sides are using way more basic tactics.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I've never found Leo to be that bad, but I have to say I am not a fan of people being really rude or belittling in matches. I'd never consciously judge based on that of course, but someone who relies on insults probably will end seeming less impressive to me.BTW, im glad i'm judging Smurph/OV instead of Psycho/BW, mine is way easier... not because it's one sided but just because both sides are using way more basic tactics.
'twas joking about leo. He's a good guy. I dislike insults in matches too. I'm not so saintly that I can claim to have never used them, but I try to avoid them at all times.
i'm not so thin-skinned to take what you said to heart digi. i know you dig me. 😄
my 'style' really changes match to match, depending on who i'm facing. at times i can come across as rather an ass (not that anyone notices . . . heh) but it depends on what the match is like, the perceived level of threat, the rapport with my opponent, etc . . .
i wish i'd have been in THIS tourney. i like the participants and i like the level.
Screw this level. My favorite is honestly high meta. That's where I have my best knowledge base.
I do, however, want to make a Sub-Skyfather tourney where we only draft 2 and have no prep. But it would still be insane, with the likes of Classic Strange destroying dimensions along with Thanos and sh*t. And ALL potential loopholes would be legal. I have a feeling that would be my favorite tourney ever. Alas, I couldn't both host and participate.
Originally posted by "Id"
@Digi - Next time I will add, extreme level of stubbornness to your bio. uhuh
fdog
I'll take that as a "conceded."
On the notes of style, meh. Sometimes my posts are a tad more caustic than others, usually varying based on how incredulous my opponents prep' leaves me, how rude they are being, or (unintentionally) probably what's at stake, tourney-wise. I've heard pros and cons about this approach, but it usually lets me establish a rhythm that I use to organize my points.
As for this level, I find that I usually like it a lot more than I think that I will. It's a solid break from having to stretch believability or my mind- often the simplest strategies are the best ones, and there are far less loopholes and rule smudges than other levels. There are way more feats available to back up most points because we're not usually relying on one-time abilities or powersets that are way too versatile, and amalgamation doesn't usually involve some weird chemistry mix that causes two low characters to become Superman lite. I feel like it's a better test of debating skill too, as characters are a lot closer in power across the board (for the most part).
I dunno. Just a simpler feel.
My favorite level is probably low herald though, or that gray low herald/high meta mix.
EDIT: Upon re-reading that, I said "usually" way too often. Whatevs.
I agree Smurph. This level is good for all those reasons. The only reason I prefer high meta is because I personally can be much more versatile in my drafts and approaches because I know comparatively a lot more about that level than most others, though I'm comfortable at any level. But where I only had maybe 6-7 picks at this level that I seriously considered, my team in delph's high meta tourney was a revolving door because I literally had so much I wanted to try out.
Herald's just a mess. Just an unholy mess. Too much going on.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not so thin-skinned to take what you said to heart digi. i know you dig me. 😄my 'style' really changes match to match, depending on who i'm facing. at times i can come across as rather an ass (not that anyone notices . . . heh) but it depends on what the match is like, the perceived level of threat, the rapport with my opponent, etc . . .
i wish i'd have been in THIS tourney. i like the participants and i like the level.
Originally posted by Digi
Screw this level. My favorite is honestly high meta. That's where I have my best knowledge base.I do, however, want to make a Sub-Skyfather tourney where we only draft 2 and have no prep. But it would still be insane, with the likes of Classic Strange destroying dimensions along with Thanos and sh*t. And ALL potential loopholes would be legal. I have a feeling that would be my favorite tourney ever. Alas, I couldn't both host and participate.
My favorite is actually high herald, I had a blast in evangel's high herald malgam tourney (though I seem to be the only one who felt that way).
Originally posted by King Kandy
Remember the under thanos tourney? That had some awesome matches and was the worst tourney ever in terms of overblown preps. Though the mixed genre tourney that was low meta but had a match where I dropped planet-destroying asteroids on a team wielding herald+ plasma vortexes came close.My favorite is actually high herald, I had a blast in evangel's high herald malgam tourney (though I seem to be the only one who felt that way).
Asteroids were planet-destroying, the vortexes weren't actually herald+ as we've proven ad nauseum.
There was not the fact of insane prep (though we've actually performed nice for no-bat-style-prep-team) but loopholish prep locations (aka "let's grab Staff of One in the tourney where magic practicioners are banned"😉 and interactive battlefields (which while creative were winner-deciding factor as whoever ran to the biggest gun first could OHK the opposing team).
Originally posted by Digi
Screw this level. My favorite is honestly high meta. That's where I have my best knowledge base.I do, however, want to make a Sub-Skyfather tourney where we only draft 2 and have no prep. But it would still be insane, with the likes of Classic Strange destroying dimensions along with Thanos and sh*t. And ALL potential loopholes would be legal. I have a feeling that would be my favorite tourney ever. Alas, I couldn't both host and participate.
fdog
I'll take that as a "conceded."
I'm also comfortable at meta level though some of my favourites (Engineer for example) are low heralds.
Mid-high heralds is outlandish mess and any tourney on that level should be no prep one🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
Remember the under thanos tourney? That had some awesome matches and was the worst tourney ever in terms of overblown preps. Though the mixed genre tourney that was low meta but had a match where I dropped planet-destroying asteroids on a team wielding herald+ plasma vortexes came close.My favorite is actually high herald, I had a blast in evangel's high herald malgam tourney (though I seem to be the only one who felt that way).
Worst tourney for prep? Obviously you missed leo and Smurph's title match a while back. There was like 9 to a team and they both had (alleged) universal-level attacks or some nonsense. I think it was low herald level.
The under Thanos was fairly ridiculous though, so no major arguments with that point. Mine and Scoob's was just as guilty as anyone's, although giving Thor the Uni-Power was hella-fun.
Originally posted by "Id"
I can exploit Meta/Ironman class tournament, to attain Skyfather class abilities. biscuits
Indeed. A lot of people can, given prep. Reed Richards + a technomorph, for a ridiculously easy example. Prep is dangerous at any level, and proper use of it can catapult people well into, and often beyond, several higher tiers. Which is why whoever sells their particular prep snake oil the best in meta+ tourneys usually ends up the winner.
Originally posted by DigiI recreated Solar, Man of the Atom dammit!
Worst tourney for prep? Obviously you missed leo and Smurph's title match a while back. There was like 9 to a team and they both had (alleged) universal-level attacks or some nonsense. I think it was low herald level.
Haha, yeah. Newjak gave us something like a few years of prep? I forget.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
I recreated Solar, Man of the Atom dammit!Haha, yeah. Newjak gave us something like a few years of prep? I forget.
That was literally the only important tourney match I never followed through on reading. My brain started to hurt too bad. Thank goodness I wasn't judging.
Originally posted by Digileo and I created (ultimate) cosmic cubes for our whole team.
Indeed. A lot of people can, given prep. Reed Richards + a technomorph, for a ridiculously easy example. Prep is dangerous at any level, and proper use of it can catapult people well into, and often beyond, several higher tiers. Which is why whoever sells their particular prep snake oil the best in meta+ tourneys usually ends up the winner.
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Originally posted by Digi
...a ploy he stole from me in the Evangel tourney I got DQ'd from, but I digress.ahah
😂
i never even READ that match, though i do believe the original idea WAS yours so all credit to digi. 😄
i personally never enjoy prep, though i take advantage of it when it's given. one thing i'd really enjoy would be a BZ or tourney where everyone was free to choose any character (of whatever level is assigned) even those taken by others already.
ie--everyone could have ss or thor on their team. i think it would be sweet--a great way to judge who debated best as there is no excuse that he/she had a better character. i ALMOST did that for this tourney. maybe the next one.
i think a BZ would be fun if both used the same character. PR vs PHIL for instance, and BOTH have superman for title of ultimate superman fanboy. 😂