As I have said before on similar threads, without bfr, Juggy wins-not easily though.
Pure strength:Hulk>Juggs
Durability:Juggs>>Hulk
Stamina:Juggs>>Hulk
HF/Regen: equal, but Cain has the edge as his total invulnerabilty means he wont be injured, and so won't have to call on his HF.
Fighting skill:equal
I see fight being long and hard, lasting several days-but Juggy won't tire and won't be hurt, so he eventually wears Hulk down.
Originally posted by SamZEDWW Hulk beat this character twice in the same story so the only one who does it with ease is the Hulk who did so twice in the same story.
Juggernaut and with ease.
WWH story had Hulk beating the crap outta everyone and whenever he faced someone who was supposed to kick his ass the writers would come up with a PIS solution for Hulk to either win or stalemate. imo WWH was no different physically than an ordinary pissed off Hulk, except more PISy.
Originally posted by r0nm0n88Yes, but Hulk is no ordinary brick and he can get stronger and more powerful the madder he gets.
i mean if you took away juggs forcefield, enchantment, and invulnerability. his H-factor still rivals WWh. i just think juggs will outlast him. Its not a knock at WWH, juggs was designed to take out bricks( even the strongest of them).
Originally posted by quanchi112He beat a weakened Juggernaut, the second time they fought (when Juggs was back to normal) Hulk was getting beaten and the bfr was one of those sh!tty excuses the writers come up with just so Hulk wouldnt get his ass kicked by a more powerful chatacter. The way the fight ended was ridiculos.
WW Hulk beat this character twice in the same story so the only one who does it with ease is the Hulk who did so twice in the same story.
Originally posted by SamZED
He beat a weakened Juggernaut, the second time they fought (when Juggs was back to normal) Hulk was getting beaten and the bfr was one of those sh!tty excuses the writers come up with just so Hulk wouldnt get his ass kicked by a more powerful chatacter. The way the fight ended was ridiculos.
eh? wwh wasnt getting beaten up, both were exchanging blows and then hulk made Juggy look like the idiot he is and made him continue to go forward like dumb ton of bricks since he had other things to worry about.
the fight ended in a stalemate.
Originally posted by SamZEDHuk wasn't getting beaten he was holding his own and bfr'd him simply because he hadn't the time.
He beat a weakened Juggernaut, the second time they fought (when Juggs was back to normal) Hulk was getting beaten and the bfr was one of those sh!tty excuses the writers come up with just so Hulk wouldnt get his ass kicked by a more powerful chatacter. The way the fight ended was ridiculos.
Originally posted by BUSTER1When has hulk worn down?
As I have said before on similar threads, without bfr, Juggy wins-not easily though.
Pure strength:Hulk>Juggs
Durability:Juggs>>Hulk
Stamina:Juggs>>Hulk
HF/Regen: equal, but Cain has the edge as his total invulnerabilty means he wont be injured, and so won't have to call on his HF.
Fighting skill:equal
I see fight being long and hard, lasting several days-but Juggy won't tire and won't be hurt, so he eventually wears Hulk down.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
When has hulk worn down?
So juggs side:When hulk beats juggs it's PIS but when juggs beats hulk it's perfectly normal.
You tell us. You have one guy who is totally immune to physical force against a guy that has nothing but physical force.
Logic dicates that for Hulk to beat Juggernaut without BFR, some plot device will have to be introduced.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I agree but OP didn't so no BFR and even if hulk can't hurt juggy IMO juggs doesn't have enough physical force to take down hulk.Neither of them tire either.Either hulk wins through BFR(which he could easily do to juggy)or it's a stalemate.
You tell us. You have one guy who is totally immune to physical force against a guy that has nothing but physical force.Logic dicates that for Hulk to beat Juggernaut without BFR, some plot device will have to be introduced.