Originally posted by janus77Like i said in my previous post.
lol, why would I argue with you? aside from a moderate amount of fun to be had ridiculing your seriousness, all it would do is eat up time I could spend doing more useful things.that said, it was fun, so thanks 🙂
Originally posted by Nihilist
So, no real come back of any worth, run along then son.
Originally posted by SamZEDNo, he clearly bfr'd him because he wanted to get to Prof. X in a hurry. He states it as a matter of fact.
Juggs was clearly dominating in the fight, and Hulk only bfred him because there was no other way he could've won and eventually he would've lost. But the writers couldn't have him lose (PIS) so they came up with that stupid outcome. Hulk won by sidestepping and sending Juggs running through a building. imo that even sounds retarded.doh
Bfr is a legit win on this board. Skaar recently bested him as well. You can't ignore all the times characters beat the juggernaut can you?
Originally posted by EstacadoBfr has already happened so how does the Juggernaut beat a stronger, tactically sound WW Hulk here?
So how will he beat Juggs?
Originally posted by SamZEDIf you think he was dominating then I suggest rereading the issue in question. Making Hulk bleed isn't dominating him by any stretch of the imagination.
He was dominating, clearly. Juggs is not stupid and never was, the way Hulk "won" that fight was a stupid PIS, even dumber than Spider-man beating Firelord. At least Parker had an excuse and had to work in order to win. WWH = normal Hulk + more PIS. Heck normal Hulk's HF is even better.
Originally posted by quanchi112He landed more punches, physically overpowered him and Hulk was bleeding while Juggs was just fine. Sounds like dominating to me.
No, he clearly bfr'd him because he wanted to get to Prof. X in a hurry. He states it as a matter of fact.Bfr is a legit win on this board. Skaar recently bested him as well. You can't ignore all the times characters beat the juggernaut can you?
Bfr has already happened so how does the Juggernaut beat a stronger, tactically sound WW Hulk here? If you think he was dominating then I suggest rereading the issue in question. Making Hulk bleed isn't dominating him by any stretch of the imagination.
Originally posted by SamZEDJuggs helmet was crushed and bleeding isn't owning the Hulk. I suggest avoiding the character if you cannot understand making him bleed doesn't mean squat to a character who can heal immediately from most wounds.
He landed more punches, physically overpowered him and Hulk was bleeding while Juggs was just fine. Sounds like dominating to me.
And I have no problem with Juggernaut being bfred. I only have a problem when its an excuse used by writers so the hero of the story wouldnt get his ass kicked. Hulk "bfred" and left because there was no way he could've beaten Juggernaut h2h. So it's PIS. WWH was in general horribly written with lotsa characters jobbing to Hulk.
Juggs powers kinda make bfr a fair way to beat him unless you want to see more characters just beat him up. The point is Hulk told Juggs he was getting to Prof. X and did so. He won. You can ignore it all you want it still counts.
Originally posted by quanchi112Spider-man beat Juggernaut as well via bfr, so you're gonna root for him in a vs thread?
Juggs helmet was crushed and bleeding isn't owning the Hulk. I suggest avoiding the character if you cannot understand making him bleed doesn't mean squat to a character who can heal immediately from most wounds.Juggs powers kinda make bfr a fair way to beat him unless you want to see more characters just beat him up. The point is Hulk told Juggs he was getting to Prof. X and did so. He won. You can ignore it all you want it still counts.
Originally posted by SamZEDSpiderman can't match him in strength, can't heal from the damage Hulk healed from, etc. I mean come on now. This is WW Hulk we are talking about the guy who went through two teams and beat cain twice.
Spider-man beat Juggernaut as well via bfr, so you're gonna root for him in a vs thread?
Yes it does mean something since it proves that Juggernaut can hurt Hulk and will eventually knock him out. While Hulk doesn't have any means to come close to hurting Juggernaut. His only option IS BFR but there's as much possibility that Juggernaut will bfr him. Plus he has other options unlike Hulk, yet you're voting for Hulk based on a slim chance that Hulk might bfr an opponent who's everything he is + more and that makes no sense. Well, it does in a poorly written story where Hulk can beat an upgraded doc Strange.
If Hulk had time I believe he could beat him in a battle but since this is WW Hulk and he's tactical i could see him bfring him all day. Juggs is quite dumb.
Originally posted by quanchi112Not really, he's quite smart. And it was a weakened Juggernaut Hulk beat with punches. Juggs beat Hulk before using his strength alone. Dont see why it wont work here. And dont see how WWH can overcome the spell with his fists no matter how strong he is. BFR is the only option, and possibility that Hulk will bfr him = the possibility of Juggs bfring him. On TOP of that Juggs is much more durable. So he has all the advantages. For example if there was a Colossus vs Savage Hulk thread, and even though Hulk is stronger and more duable someone voted for Colossus because theres a possibility that he MIGHT bfr Hulk even though Hulk has more advantages. Would you agree with that?
Spiderman can't match him in strength, can't heal from the damage Hulk healed from, etc. I mean come on now. This is WW Hulk we are talking about the guy who went through two teams and beat cain twice.If Hulk had time I believe he could beat him in a battle but since this is WW Hulk and he's tactical i could see him bfring him all day. Juggs is quite dumb.
Originally posted by The Nuul
I agree with both sides.Yes, Juggs got more shots in but Hulk still knew that this fight will on forever thus he BFRed Juggs FTW! This wasnt a PIS fight, these two duke it out all the time and it pretty much always ending up in a stalemate.
But Cain can float in water...
Originally posted by SamZEDHe's smart? What? based on which showings has he shown a real intelligence?
Not really, he's quite smart. And it was a weakened Juggernaut Hulk beat with punches. Juggs beat Hulk before using his strength alone. Dont see why it wont work here. And dont see how WWH can overcome the spell with his fists no matter how strong he is. BFR is the only option, and possibility that Hulk will bfr him = the possibility of Juggs bfring him. On TOP of that Juggs is much more durable. So he has all the advantages. For example if there was a Colossus vs Savage Hulk thread, and even though Hulk is stronger and more duable someone voted for Colossus because theres a possibility that he MIGHT bfr Hulk even though Hulk has more advantages. Would you agree with that?
Hulk already bfr'd him while I don't see Hulk being bfr'd here at all. You tend to make stuff up and ignore the actual fight these two had.
No, I wouldn't.
Originally posted by quanchi112Being "pretty smart" and displaying Reed Richards intellect is not the same. Not that he needs to be smart for this fight. He's not dumb, having an average intellect is more than enough here. Its not like Hulk failed to beat people up back in the day when he was dumb.
He's smart? What? based on which showings has he shown a real intelligence?Hulk already bfr'd him while I don't see Hulk being bfr'd here at all. You tend to make stuff up and ignore the actual fight these two had.
No, I wouldn't.
I didn't ignore anything, Hulk PHYSICALLY only beat a weakened Cain, Juggernaut in one of their previous encounters beaten Hulk with his bare hands and without armor. And why do you not see Juggernaut BFRing Hulk? It's well within his abilities just as it is withing Hulk's.
No you wouldn't. Then what makes you so sure that Hulk who has NO advantages over Juggs is gonna bfr him instead of getting beaten or bfred himself?