Xel'lotath vs Sheogorath · Games 'Versus' Forum

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by Utrigita
As the last surviving dwarf clearly showed that the Dwermer is something strongly alike to the Dumner. They was cursed into Dumner by Azura so I'll call the Tribunal Dumner if you don't mind 😛
Also it should be mentioned that Vivec (along with the rest of the Tribunal) had at that point of time lost his connection with the heart and could no longer because of Dagoth Ur presence refill his godly powers. So Imperial > Nord? I have a strong feeling that somehow the alliance between the eigth (that became nine when Tiber Septim became a God) and the Imperials had alot to do with their success.
It's very easy to make that argument, and Divayth Fyr is still alive and well, he is essential to the questline and if you kill him or he dies in some fashion the quest is over.
It's a mod that amongst other things have spells that are undefendable and a spell that (if I could get it to work) will literally oneshot you, resistance, absorb etc won't help you, because the spell removes you from the plane of existance and dumps you somewhere between the dimensions, killing you in the process. So.. come get some 😛
On another note you wouldn't be alot better of yourself 😉 but I bet we can use a year to bet on each other 😛
edit no idea why it added 131 in the last csm string

1. ... Huh? They are light-skinned, short, and the one you meet is a bloated Corprus creature. 😐 They are elves, but are very different, especially in regards to technological power, this was pretty much the same Dwarven race that created Numidium, a mechanical psuedo-deity. They're still Chimer, notice the gold skin... Not counting half of Vivec's body, for whatever reason.

2. Sure about that? Tiber Septim came to Morrowind a long ass time ago. Yes, in terms of overall power, the Imperial race is stronger than the Nords of Skyrim or any other race, or rather, they were. Also, apparently the Nords have recently started several wars for land, and have increased the size of Skyrim considerably. The next game may very well take place within Skyrim so I find it likely the Nords will be the new dominant race. It very well might have... Or maybe not, considering that the Eight/Nine rarely ever DO anything, it took Mehrunes Dagon coming to Cyrodill and attacking the Imperial City to make Akatosh act. Also, the Dunmer had a Tribunal of powerful Demigods to aid them, without them and the Imperial Army the Akaviri invasion would have been successful.

3. You misunderstand, I have heard that he died when the moon Sheogorath sent plummetting on Vivec finally fell.

4. Nah.

5. Nah.

Utrigita Senior Member

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. ... Huh? They are light-skinned, short, and the one you meet is a bloated Corprus creature. 😐 They are elves, but are very different, especially in regards to technological power, this was pretty much the same Dwarven race that created Numidium, a mechanical psuedo-deity. They're still Chimer, notice the gold skin... Not counting half of Vivec's body, for whatever reason.
2. Sure about that? Tiber Septim came to Morrowind a long ass time ago. Yes, in terms of overall power, the Imperial race is stronger than the Nords of Skyrim or any other race, or rather, they were. Also, apparently the Nords have recently started several wars for land, and have increased the size of Skyrim considerably. The next game may very well take place within Skyrim so I find it likely the Nords will be the new dominant race. It very well might have... Or maybe not, considering that the Eight/Nine rarely ever DO anything, it took Mehrunes Dagon coming to Cyrodill and attacking the Imperial City to make Akatosh act. Also, the Dunmer had a Tribunal of powerful Demigods to aid them, without them and the Imperial Army the Akaviri invasion would have been successful.
3. You misunderstand, I have heard that he died when the moon Sheogorath sent plummetting on Vivec finally fell.
4. Nah.
5. Nah.

You can still see that he was once a elf though, neither does it really change the circumstances surrounding the structure of the old houses in Morrowind where the Dwermer was regarded to be a house equal to the Telvanni, Redoran, Hlolu etc. there is no logical reason for this if it wasn't because they shared certain physical aspects between them. After all Dwemer simply means Deep Elves. Sotha Sil however iirc had under his armor the skincolor accustom to the Dumner.

In 2E 896 Tiber Septim enacts a truce with Morrowind to bring Morrowind into the empire as a mostly independant province, in return for the aid of the golem Numidium in defeating the rest of the continent. Morrowind's slavery was recently abolished, evem House Dres renounced it, trusting in their new allies, House Hlaalu.

So not exactly conquering Morrowind... I'm not sure how reliable the source is though because the rest of it is just rubbish imo.
http://oblivion.wikia.com/wiki/Morrowind

The question is if there will be another game within a near future considering what it'll center about it'll imo be quite massive and take a shitload of time to make.

From where did you hear that?

Yes. 🙂

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by Utrigita
You can still see that he was once a elf though, neither does it really change the circumstances surrounding the structure of the old houses in Morrowind where the Dwermer was regarded to be a house equal to the Telvanni, Redoran, Hlolu etc. there is no logical reason for this if it wasn't because they shared certain physical aspects between them. After all Dwemer simply means Deep Elves. Sotha Sil however iirc had under his armor the skincolor accustom to the Dumner.
So not exactly conquering Morrowind... I'm not sure how reliable the source is though because the rest of it is just rubbish imo.
http://oblivion.wikia.com/wiki/Morrowind
The question is if there will be another game within a near future considering what it'll center about it'll imo be quite massive and take a shitload of time to make.
From where did you hear that?
Yes. 🙂
Yes. 🙂

1. Yeah, and the Altmer are elves too and do not resemble the Dunmer that much and are considered to be more powerful spellcasters (Generally). What certain physical characteristics would those be, srsly? We know what they looked like, generally possessing large beards, relatively short, and fair skinned. They resemble Bosmer more than Dunmer, and the Dunmer were nowhere near as technologically advanced as the Dwemer were. I am not disputing the Dwemer were elves, but they have no more in common with the Dunmer than the Bosmer. They were considered equal due to a truce between Lord Indoril Nerevar of Dunmer and King Dumac of Dwemer, the truce they made when they warded off the Nord invasion. Indoril and Dumac were apparently comerades, friends, only turning against eachother due to insistence from Kagrenac and the Tribunal not to trust eachother.

2. That information is mostly true, yeah, but the Dunmer were not happy with Imperial rule over Morrowind, and you cannot dispute that the Imperials were the dominant force in the nation.

3. Not necessarily in the near future, I think they are making a new Fallout game first.

4. Second-hand information, not sure if it is correct, might be in a book somewhere.

I_Cheat_U_LOSE Sucks 2 Be U

Sheogorath wins this one.
If Sheogorath is in his own realm he wins this one easy.

Sheogorath has near omnipotence within his own realm.

Sheogorath has the power to recreate his realm every time it is destroy. His realm is destroyed cycle after cycle from the Graymarch. Even if Xel'lotath destroys everything in Sheogorath's realm, he can just recreate it.

Sheogorath can kill you even with god mode on in the elder scrolls oblivion. Its a scripted death and cannot be avoided unless you use the console to stop the script and teleport out.

Sheogorath's daedric weapon is the wabbajack, which can turn any enemy into another random creature. Thus if Sheogorath uses this against Xel'lotath then Xel'lotath can be turned into a harmless deer.

Also Sheogorath's personality is amazing, he laughs and gets a kick out of every little thing. Even if Sheogorath cannot defeat Xel'lotath in terms of powers, his personality and madness is persuasive enough to make Xel'lotath become a Sheogorath worshiper, which is an instant win for Sheo.

ScreamPaste Carpe Noctem

Originally posted by I_Cheat_U_LOSE
Sheogorath wins this one.
If Sheogorath is in his own realm he wins this one easy.
Sheogorath has near omnipotence within his own realm.
Sheogorath has the power to recreate his realm every time it is destroy. His realm is destroyed cycle after cycle from the Graymarch. Even if Xel'lotath destroys everything in Sheogorath's realm, he can just recreate it.
Sheogorath can kill you even with god mode on in the elder scrolls oblivion. Its a scripted death and cannot be avoided unless you use the console to stop the script and teleport out.
Sheogorath's daedric weapon is the wabbajack, which can turn any enemy into another random creature. Thus if Sheogorath uses this against Xel'lotath then Xel'lotath can be turned into a harmless deer.
Also Sheogorath's personality is amazing, he laughs and gets a kick out of every little thing. Even if Sheogorath cannot defeat Xel'lotath in terms of powers, his personality and madness is persuasive enough to make Xel'lotath become a Sheogorath worshiper, which is an instant win for Sheo.

This is actually a pretty good post, but you don't sound like you're very familiar with Xel'Lotath? I highly suggest you play Eternal Darkness, was a great game. Xel'Lotath is probably one of the few entities in fiction crazier than Sheogorath.

FinalAnswer Flower

Lies.

LLLLLink The Juror of Courage

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Lies.

Xel'lotath is now a deer. Your argument is invalid.

ScreamPaste Carpe Noctem

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Xel'lotath is now a deer. Your argument is invalid.

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LLLLLink The Juror of Courage

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
mariofacepalm

I was just kidding, man...