Originally posted by Autokrat
I am curious, but what difference would it make if Iran makes a nuke? Who would they attack with it? Israel? (I'd shed so many tears) I understand that while the current regime is conservative, I don't believe they are stupid.
It all depends on what Iran did with that Nude. However, even if they did nothing with it, Saudi Arabia would work on getting a nuke (most likely from the US). This would cause an arms race, and that is something you should be concerned with.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It all depends on what Iran did with that Nude. However, even if they did nothing with it, Saudi Arabia would work on getting a nuke (most likely from the US). This would cause an arms race, and that is something you should be concerned with.
What other option is there? Crippling sanctions will not work without China and Russia's support and a military option would be costly and destabilizing. It seems like a no win situation unless Russia and China get on the board.
Originally posted by Autokrat
What other option is there? Crippling sanctions will not work without China and Russia's support and a military option would be costly and destabilizing. It seems like a no win situation unless Russia and China get on the board.
How about attacking their nuclear arms facilities and leveling them?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It all depends on what Iran did with that Nude. However, even if they did nothing with it, Saudi Arabia would work on getting a nuke (most likely from the US). This would cause an arms race, and that is something you should be concerned with.
Worked with India and Pakistan, now all they do is make empty threats at each other while throwing curry.
Originally posted by Autokrat
If this is such a good option, then why is the military so uneasy about it?
because Iran will get a weapon if it wants one, and the more we attack them, the more likely they are to use it
I'd imagine the best way for the world to approach them would be as if they already had the bomb, and attempt to get them to either disarm or to prevent proliferation. The more the international community presses, the more the people of Iran are going to see it as an attack, which, to them, means they need to have nuclear arms to defend themselves.
Originally posted by Autokrat
If this is such a good option, then why is the military so uneasy about it?
Not sure, could be a combo of several reasons. Iran isn't close enough to actually make weapons grade material, they've managed to keep what they have secret, might start a full-blown war or some unknown.
Bush & Co. did talk about it a few years ago.
Originally posted by inimalist
India and Pakistan's relationship, while still not good by any means, did get better once both sides had the deterant of MAD.
Just proves that brown people need the threat of certain death to get along.
But Iran is different, it's not so much the scare that Iran would launch a nuke at Israel or US targets in the region itself, it's that it would sell or handover such arms to terrorist groups that would certainly use it, because of the "God wants it, durka, durka!" mentality.
Originally posted by Robtard
Just proves that brown people need the threat of certain death to get along.But Iran is different, it's not so much the scare that Iran would launch a nuke at Israel or US targets in the region itself, it's that it would sell or handover such arms to terrorist groups that would certainly use it, because of the "God wants it, durka, durka!" mentality.
maybe, maybe not. It isn't really in Iran's interest to have people using their nuclear material to blow up anything, but I can see it happening.
The head of the Pakistani nuclear program, AQ Kahn, allegedly met with Bin Laden at one point, and his response was akin to "This guy is insane". These people are still seen as problematic in the region, especially by people like the leaders of Iran, and they know that once the groups that oppose America get nuclear material, there is no way to stop it from getting into the hands of kurd or other groups within Iran.
Isolating and attacking them, however, increases the likelihood, imho. And I can't really think of a nation that has been prevented from obtaining nukes if they really wanted to.
Originally posted by inimalist
its just strange, as South Asia and Iran already had a "green" revolution.The introduction of corporate GMO crops into South Asia (esp. India) is also called such.
Which apparently wasn't major in Iran, because they had their own White Revolution, which was more than simply agricultural, it seems to be a major increase of all national infrastructure.
I know, it is strange. I read both the Wiki pages. This 2009 revolution had nothing to do with agriculture. I think the Iranians probably need another agricultural revolution to help them out. I know Iraq does. Iraq needs a water revolution, too.