ares834No.
However, Vastor is not a match for Windu. Windu held back in both fights and in the second battle he brushed Kar aside.
Mace was thoroughly thrashed in the first fight, a result he'd anticipated and counted on. He openly admits this to Rostu.
The second fight... isn't. Mace is at death's door, Vastor has drank in the power shares of the manic Depa and his seven Akk guards and is more powerful than ever. Mace bluntly states that this would be a fight he couldn't win "on his best day." He instead hurls a vibroshield at Vastor's back, and the Korun falls in a misguided attempt to block it.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Weak.
Really? Weaker than what? Has anyone provided any evidence that Mace wuld "Definetely" defeat Starkiller?
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Would you please provide evidence that
A). Mace was unable to handle the Force lightning
Read the scence from the ROTS novel. I cant be arsed posting it, but basically Sidious's FL was beyond Vapaad.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
B). Starkiller's lightning has power equivalent to Sidious's
I dnt have proof of this one. But its not bad speculation that his FL and TK wuld be in league with ROTS Sidious considering the level of his feats. Frying a Mega Sarlaac, and redirecting a Star Destroyer just to name a couple. Plus the fact that he took TFU Emporer's FL on head on to save Kota and the other rebels. He pushed back into the Emporer. Yes he died, but the Emporer's Force powers by this stage were far greater than his ROTS's counterpart.
And finally lets not forget he defeated Vader who we know was around 80% of the Emporer at the time. So that wuld make Galen what?85-90% of the Emporer at the time of TFU. So very likely a Force fight between Galen and ROTS Sidious wuld be one heck of a fight!
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
C). Starkiller is as powerful in the Force as Vastor
Well u know hes more powerful than Vader in the Force whose specualted to be 80% of OT Sidious and more Powerful than Vastor in the force. So I think A>B>C works here.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
D). Someone as powerful in the Force as Vastor would defeat Windu in a legitimate battle...Just to start with please?
Force fight, I think the evidence Galen would take it without much difficulty.
All out? Who knows? Id personally go with LS Starkiller looking at his feats. And how he seems to turn all his fight into Force fights. But you can argue that of course.
I was only saying cause I found it odd that sum1 sed Galen "Definetely" Loses to Mace.
I hope thats enough to start with 😉
Graphic novel was probably the closest. The Emporer had smoke coming off him and had burns on his face. But it still ended with Galen on the floor, and the Emporer standing.
But I think it should be noted that Galen wuld never have wanted to take the Emporer head on against his FL.. He was forced to do that to save Kota and the rebels.
Originally posted by truejedi
he pretty much just gets electrocuted to death in decently short order.
Not quite.
In the novel Galen drives Palpatine back with telekinetically thrown debris. Palpatine tries to goad him into striking him down but Galen refuses. Palpatine fires another lightning blast at Kota and Galen jumps into its path to protect Kota. It hurts, but he still advances through it and grapples with Palpatine. Palpatine is zapped by his own lightning and screaming in pain.
Stromtroopers come running in and Galen protects the escaping Rebels by unleashing his power in a massive burst to cover their escape. This kills him but causes massive damage to the Death Star.
Originally posted by Galan007
So if you don't mind me asking, how did Galen/Sidious' battle differ between the novel and graphic novel?
I actually think the novel favours Galen more than the comic.
In the comic you just see them go head to head, in which Sidious is left standing, and Galen on the floor. (although sidious does have burns and scars).
In the novel, we are told Galen moves forward right to Sidious, grabbing him, Making Sidious Scream!
Galen also goes thorugh incredible pain. Sidious wins, however it wasnt quite a fair fight, as Galen was distracted with trying to make sure the rebels escape safely.
Re: sith stalker (starkiller) runs the gauntlet
round 1: 500 storm troopers - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 2: obi wan kenobi (TPM) - easy
Round 3: 5000 B1 battle driods - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 4: 2 At-tes - Starkiller probably wins
Round 5: Anikan skywalker (AOTC) - easy
Round 6: Jango Fett - easy
Round 7: Anikan & Asohka (TCW) - Starkiller probably wins
Round 8: Genral grevious - easy
Round 9: 300 managuards - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 10: Darth Vader (suit) - toss up
Round 11: Mace windu - Starkiller loses
Round 12: 70 at-st's - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 13: luke skywalker (ROTJ) - easy
Round 14: darth revan - IDK
Round 15: Darth Malek - IDK, but from what I know easy
Round 16: Shaak ti - easy
Round 17: 1 Venator star destroyer - Starkiller gets mega pwned
Round 18: Darth Kryat - IDK
Round 19: Emporer Palpatine (ROTJ) - Starkiller loses
Round 20: Yoda - Starkiller loses
Round 21: The entire Naboo Driod army - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 22: The entire Imperial hoth army - Starkiller gets pwned
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
round 1: 500 storm troopers - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 2: obi wan kenobi (TPM) - easy
Round 3: 5000 B1 battle driods - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 4: 2 At-tes - Starkiller probably wins
Round 5: Anikan skywalker (AOTC) - easy
Round 6: Jango Fett - easy
Round 7: Anikan & Asohka (TCW) - Starkiller probably wins
Round 8: Genral grevious - easy
Round 9: 300 managuards - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 10: Darth Vader (suit) - toss up
Round 11: Mace windu - Starkiller loses
Round 12: 70 at-st's - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 13: luke skywalker (ROTJ) - easy
Round 14: darth revan - IDK
Round 15: Darth Malek - IDK, but from what I know easy
Round 16: Shaak ti - easy
Round 17: 1 Venator star destroyer - Starkiller gets mega pwned
Round 18: Darth Kryat - IDK
Round 19: Emporer Palpatine (ROTJ) - Starkiller loses
Round 20: Yoda - Starkiller loses
Round 21: The entire Naboo Driod army - Starkiller gets pwned
Round 22: The entire Imperial hoth army - Starkiller gets pwned
These two issues keep nagging at me:
How is #10 a tossup? Been there, done that.
#16 is definitely NOT an easy one, as we already saw.
round 1: 500 storm troopers= Oddly enough, I can see him winning this if he seriously cuts loose. The novel describes him as destroying 100's of droids with a single Force Push. If he just blast's them from the start he could win.
Round 2: obi wan kenobi (TPM)= Easy
Round 3: 5000 B1 battle driods= Gets ROFLstomped to shitpaste
Round 4: 2 At-(A?)t's= Easy
Round 5: Anikan skywalker (AOTC)= Easy
Round 6: Jango Fett= Very Easy
Round 7: Anikan & Asohka (TCW)= Easy
Round 8: Genral grevious= Force stomps
Round 9: 300 managuards= No. Loses.
Round 10: Darth Vader (suit). Wins
Round 11: Mace Windu= Errr, if he can force stomp he can proably win, but saber fight makes him lose
Round 12: 70 at-st's= Probably loses
Round 13: luke skywalker (ROTJ)= Easy
Round 14: darth revan= Wins
Round 15: Darth Malek= Wins
Round 16: Shaak ti= Wins. Note that when they fought she had a Sarlaac and he had just fought through the jungle for several hours.
Round 17: 1 Venator star destroyer= ......What? No, seriously, what?
Round 18: Darth Krayt= Wins
Round 19: Emporer Palpatine (ROTJ)= Gets butt-raped
Round 20: Yoda= Un****ingbelievably close, but probably wins.
Round 21: The entire Naboo Driod army= Tanks make him lose
Round 22: The entire Imperial hoth army= Loses.
Galen Marek often seems to be underrated. He managed to contain Sidious's lightning for even longer than Yoda. Not to mention Sidious was in intense pain. "The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain." And he did this all after thrashing Vader. I could see him defeating Mace Windu and perhaps even Yoda.
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
These two issues keep nagging at me:How is #10 a tossup? Been there, done that.
#16 is definitely NOT an easy one, as we already saw.
Just because Starkiller beat Vader once doesn't mean that he'd win all or even a majority of the time. I haven't read the books or comics for TFU, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but the battle seemed to be pretty even.
Didn't Starkiller get stronger from there? And didn't Shaak Ti have help from the wildlife?
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallVader got Trashed.
Just because Starkiller beat Vader once doesn't mean that he'd win all or even a majority of the time. I haven't read the books or comics for TFU, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but the battle seemed to be pretty even.Didn't Starkiller get stronger from there? And didn't Shaak Ti have help from the wildlife?
She had help from a Giant Sarlaac and the planets wildlife/sentient creatures.
Just noticed something in TFU novel. When Vader had Galen "rebuilt" he was cloned.
"A disconcerting thought occurred to him. He hastily tugged oft first his right glove, then the left. He was reassured to see only skin beneath-no synthetic materials or artificial joints. His knuckles moved the same as always; his fingernails were neat and even. The only odd detail was that his scars were gone.
He rubbed his right hand down his chest to his stomach, remembering the terrible wound his Master had inflicted. He thought of the damage raw vacuum did to human lungs. Bacta tanks performed miracles, but they weren't that good."