Mister X vs Bullseye

Started by Original Smurph6 pages

It doesn't need to work in the same fashion, if it still comes up with complicated flight paths that X can't follow before Bullseye throws the projectiles. There's zero evidence to suggest that X can mentally track multiple projectiles' while they ricochet around the environment, and there's actually evidence to suggest that he can't.

We don't know exactly how Bullseye calculates his aim, but we do know that it takes far less time than Cho took and that the projectiles would be moving faster, with intent to kill. We know that this type of maneuver can surprise X, that he has trouble compensating and that this is Bullseye's bread and butter.

Math was not necessary. Simply extremely fast aim deductions, executed before X can dumb it down to his level. This is exactly what Bullseye does.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
It doesn't need to work in the same fashion, if it still comes up with complicated flight paths that X can't follow before Bullseye throws the projectiles. There's zero evidence to suggest that X can mentally track multiple projectiles' while they ricochet around the environment, and there's actually evidence to suggest that he can't.

We don't know exactly how Bullseye calculates his aim, but we do know that it takes far less time than Cho took and that the projectiles would be moving faster, with intent to kill. We know that this type of maneuver can surprise X, that he has trouble compensating and that this is Bullseye's bread and butter.

Math was not necessary. Simply extremely fast aim deductions, executed before X can dumb it down to his level. This is exactly what Bullseye does.

No not at all, there only evidence to suggest he can't track cho mind. It had nothing to do with flight paths, it was the math, it was clearly shown on pannel, hell cho even states "you can read my mind but not understand it" he also states I am doing zillions of conculations and they even show all the forumulas his mind is going through, this is not something bullseye can do and it a fact.

so we can't assume he does it anything like cho. No all we know is x could not understand cho mathmatical mind and even still he was able to dodge numerous arrows. It was clearly shown that it was the way cho mind worked not what he did that got x.

yes it was and was clearly shown. except bullseye can't operrate his mind anythign closes to the level of cho. x does not dumb down anything. Cho mind was doing zillions of conculations and formulas.

^ you're super dense.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No not at all, there only evidence to suggest he can't track cho mind. It had nothing to do with flight paths, it was the math, it was clearly shown on pannel, hell cho even states "you can read my mind but not understand it" he also states I am doing zillions of conculations and they even show all the forumulas his mind is going through, this is not something bullseye can do and it a fact.

so we can't assume he does it anything like cho. No all we know is x could not understand cho mathmatical mind and even still he was able to dodge numerous arrows. It was clearly shown that it was the way cho mind worked not what he did that got x.

yes it was and was clearly shown. except bullseye can't operrate his mind anythign closes to the level of cho. x does not dumb down anything. Cho mind was doing zillions of conculations and formulas.

Now you're not even replying to what I'm posting.

Originally posted by Starscream M
^ you're super dense.

sweet mister his claws are embedded into his neck......it was a necklace you dumb bastard.

capt did not get a blot clot, he had one before the battle....you liar

theses are the dumb ass comments you make ever day, so don't even talk to me about being dense your ignorant ****.

what I stated was based on the comic, you know the one I read 4 times and own, unlike your self.

if it came to hand-to-hand x would probably take it, after the cho incident, Bullseye would most likely win if he kept it at a long range. The fact that cho had to do all the calculations and this was clear for mr. x to read and he couldn't block the attack means that someone like bullseye who does the same calculations in his head reflexively means that X would probably find it impossible to counter-attack...however that's just a theory, for all we know, bullseye might dumb down his own calculations for himself, like saying to himself "off the wall to the car to the street lamp to the back of his head." or something like that.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Now you're not even replying to what I'm posting.

yes I am. Your trying to uses cho example as being what bullseye could do, but it not even relevent.

cho achieved what he did through zillions of conculations which x could read, but by chos own words could not "understand". He also showed that his mind was full of complacted formulas. This in no way means that bullseye could do the same thing at all. Bullseye does not operrate like this. X did not have problems dodging the attacks, he had problems understanding cho's mind this is a fact on pannel evidence. Bullseye mind has never shown to opperate anything like this, fact.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes I am. Your trying to uses cho example as being what bullseye could do, but it not even relevent.
Ok, let's remove the Cho example-

Please show evidence that Mr. X can automatically deduce and react to complicated flight paths that are calculated and executed within a fraction of a second.

It all about the language. it like cho mind was operating in another language that x could not understand. Bullseye does not operate in such a way. X understands how people like bullseye think, how warriors think. He does not understand how people who view the world in simply mathmatical terms operates.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Ok, let's remove the Cho example-

Please show evidence that Mr. X can automatically deduce and react to complicated flight paths that are calculated and executed within a fraction of a second.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Ok, let's remove the Cho example-

Please show evidence that Mr. X can automatically deduce and react to complicated flight paths that are calculated and executed within a fraction of a second.


again your asking for something thats never happen to him asside from the cho example and even then he was shown to dodge the complicated flight patterns. so your own example of him failing is the same example which shows him dodging them and the reason given for his failure with not being able to understand cho mind, it had nothing to do with the complexity of the flight pattern, if that was the cases it would have been stated and he would not have dodge numerous arrows.

also when has bullseye ever thrown that amount of projectiles let alone right off the bat?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
again your asking for something thats never happen to him
So, we have no evidence that he could mentally track these. The only occurrence suggests that he can't, though the mindset was different, but the calculated flight paths would be of equal complexity in the given scenarios. There is nothing to suggest that he could track them, there is something to suggest that he can't.

Based on that, I would think that Bullseye can win this, if he knew or figured out what to do.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also when has bullseye ever thrown that amount of projectiles let alone right off the bat?
he doesn't need to

with bullseye's ability to richochet any object....he would be able to do far more than Cho did.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, we have no evidence that he could mentally track these. The only occurrence suggests that he can't, though the mindset was different, but the calculated flight paths would be of equal complexity in the given scenarios.

Yes, but the reason given was how cho mind operates, and the complexity is far different. He was doing zillions of mathmetical equations. He also showed that he could dodge them, untill he was unable to understand the his mind.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
here is nothing to suggest that he could track them, there is something to suggest that he can't.

Not true. The only thing suggested was that he could not understand cho's mind which was the reaosn given. This is what happen on pannel. It had nothing to do with the flight patterns, it had to do with his conculations and he dodge numerous arrows to boot.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Based on that, I would think that Bullseye can win this, if he knew or figured out what to do.

again cho did this through complex mathmetical equations zillions of them. which bullseye can't do. It not the same thing. Your trying to argue apples and oranges.

what cho did mentally is not what bullseye does.

also your going to assume bullseye figures out x powers because?

Originally posted by Starscream M
he doesn't need to

with bullseye's ability to richochet any object....he would be able to do far more than Cho did.


yes he would.

no he couldent. do you understand that x was having no problems with the physical aspect of dodging it was cho mental capacity, wait of course not you never even read the dam issue, why I even bother talking to your ignorant ass is beyond me.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also your going to assume bullseye figures out x powers because?

cuz X will likely brag about it.

Bottom line:

There is nothing to suggest that X can follow complicated flight paths via telepathy. Nothing.

Originally posted by Starscream M
cuz X will likely brag about it.

except x never has bragged about his ability except one time to his teamates who he already new, his powers.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
except x never has bragged about his ability except one time to his teamates who he already new, his powers.
truth is, BE doesn't need to know X's powers

once he realizes throwing objects directly is avoided by X, he'll start using crazy angles.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Bottom line:

There is nothing to suggest that X can follow complicated flight paths via telepathy. Nothing.


except the fact that he dodge numerous arrows on complicated flight patterns.

There nothing to suggest he be unable to understand bullseye mind, nothing.

we know why he could not dodge all the arrows, becuase he could nto understand cho's mind, this is a fact.

we know for a fact bullseye never shown to have his mind opperate like cho's.

so to assume bullseye can do something becuase cho did it =abc logic and shitty one at that.

There is an arguement for both sides, niether side has more evidences then the other.

The same example can be used to argue either side of the arguement, and is diffently not evidence that he can complete lock on and dodge complex flight patterns, but it also not evidences that he can't becuase the reason given was due to being able to understand cho's mind.