Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Look up eigenstate. Right now, I'm just having fun, joking with Mindship.
"A dynamical state whose state vector (or wave function) is an eigenvector (or eigenfunction) of an operator corresponding to a specified physical quantity."
That was the most comprehensible answer I could find and it means absolutely nothing to me.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"A dynamical state whose state vector (or wave function) is an eigenvector (or eigenfunction) of an operator corresponding to a specified physical quantity."That was the most comprehensible answer I could find and it means absolutely nothing to me.
Well, to tell you the truth, it's above my head too. In quantum mechanics, when a waveform has been viewed or measured (whatever that really means) it is no longer a waveform but becomes an eigenstate. Do you remember the cat in the box thought experiment? When the door is closed, the cat is in a waveform of being dead or alive. Once you open the door, the cat enters an eigenstate, ether dead or alive, but not both. In the way I see it, and this is just my opinion, the universe, before the big band, was a waveform, but once the big band happened, it became an eigenstate.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
In the way I see it, and this is just my opinion, the universe, before the big band, was a waveform
But made of what, though? A wave is just a transfer of energy.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
eigenstate.
I always thought that word was some kind of anagram of "Einstein"...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have not read the book you are talking about, and Newton's concept of time, I assume is what you mean by block universe, is not absolutely valid. If the Newtonian time was absolutely valid, then Relativity would be wrong. In the same way, Relativity is not absolutely valid against Quantum Mechanics. Each one of these theories is a generalization when compared to the one after.The universe is not a static block time, or even a relativistic space-time of all points of reality. The universe is a waveform that is in an eigenstate. The universe does not require a cause.
Without digressing into a long treatise, an energy eistenstate is a solution to the Schrödinger equation. Eigenstates are a set of eigenvectors and in the case of a system with a time-independent Hamiltonian operator they are sometimes referred to as stationary waves. What this amounts to is that they represent a potential actualized outcome of a quantum system currently existing as a wave.
Therefore, it seems like you are arguing that the before the universe materialized it existed as a potential in the form of a quantum wave. It then materialized into the actualized reality in which we know and live within via one of the interpretations of QM, such as, for example, the MWI. But how exactly does one account for existence of the wave and its potentialities?
Look, at it this way. There are many possible outcomes of a video game, outcomes dependent upon the actions and skill of the players. Clearly, however, every possible outcome is the result of the configuration of the base program as programmed by the programmer.
The program did not program itself, and even if there are self-programming programs, if one traces all the program-created programs through their creation regresses, one arrivers at the original program and programmer.
Potential itself has order. The order inherent within computer programs originated within the order of the original programmer’s mind and commands.
Originally posted by Don Schneider
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Therefore, it seems like you are arguing that the before the universe materialized it existed as a potential in the form of a quantum wave. It then materialized into the actualized reality in which we know and live within via one of the interpretations of QM, such as, for example, the MWI. But how exactly does one account for existence of the wave and its potentialities?...
The answer to your question is the multiverse. Sense the multiverse is a resultant phenomenon of multiple universes, and not a thing within its self, it is inappropriate to ask any question involving multiverse and time. As I illustrated previously, space-time is only an aspect of a universe, and there is nothing preventing the arrow of time from flowing contrary in one universe to another. Please keep in mind that this is all speculative, and no one really knows. But I think this is what is meant by saying that the multiverse is eternal. The word eternal is a short cut to explain a difficult concept that we really don't know much about. To place so much of your counter on an unfortunate word, is to miss some interesting possibilities about the multiverse.