Originally posted by yung_link
i watch bleach, so i no about the invisible part, but the magical barrier part not so much... in which episodes was it used?
Do you watch the japanese/subbed episodes?
Because they show it all the time. When they go to Karakura Town, the captains, or usually Urahara erect a barrier so the town doesn't get hurt, even if the buildings are destroyed, but the people are safe.
im gonna make a bold statement...inuyasha's adventures took place in the feudal era while ichigo's take place in a more modern time period. my point is that there r different definitions of fast in each time period, for example: in the feudal era the fastest thing was a horse but in the bleach-verse cars & jets r considered fast. inuyasha is considered fast cuz he can run faster than a horse, while ichigo is considered fast cuz he moves faster than cars...do u c where im going with this? im saying that ichigo is faster than the fastest thing in his universe & so is inuyasha, there's no actual way 2 tell how fast some1 truly is when u can only compare them 2 things native 2 their time period...
Originally posted by yung_link
im gonna make a bold statement...inuyasha's adventures took place in the feudal era while ichigo's take place in a more modern time period. my point is that there r different definitions of fast in each time period, for example: in the feudal era the fastest thing was a horse but in the bleach-verse cars & jets r considered fast. inuyasha is considered fast cuz he can run faster than a horse, while ichigo is considered fast cuz he moves faster than cars...do u c where im going with this? im saying that ichigo is faster than the fastest thing in his universe & so is inuyasha, there's no actual way 2 tell how fast some1 truly is when u can only compare them 2 things native 2 their time period...
Ichigo routinely moves faster than the eye can see, he can make after-images, hell, in his Bankai, he blocked Byakuya's Bankai attack, something Inuyasha would never be able to do.
Originally posted by yung_link
im gonna make a bold statement...inuyasha's adventures took place in the feudal era while ichigo's take place in a more modern time period. my point is that there r different definitions of fast in each time period, for example: in the feudal era the fastest thing was a horse but in the bleach-verse cars & jets r considered fast. inuyasha is considered fast cuz he can run faster than a horse, while ichigo is considered fast cuz he moves faster than cars...do u c where im going with this? im saying that ichigo is faster than the fastest thing in his universe & so is inuyasha, there's no actual way 2 tell how fast some1 truly is when u can only compare them 2 things native 2 their time period...
Sure there is, because they both move in comparison to humans, and to the ground. Unmodified but skilled humans like Sango and Miroku, are useful in fights with most demons. There's then the "superhuman but still quite followable" characters like IY himself, then there's the "superhuman and too fast for skilled humans to follow, but not out of the range of IY's movements to fight". That laddering gives us a rough idea of their speed.
Nor do they move vast distances like miles in just a few seconds.
The Bleach characters aren't fast because they're in a world with cars (cars which, btw, never get seen in motion during the series), but because they are just objectively fast.
I understand you like Inu Yasha, but there is nothing to put it at Bleach speed levels. Either judging by scaling from characters or distance travelled, the fastest ones show no-where near the speed of captain class Bleach characters like Ichigo.
The top-level people can conduct fights in less time than it takes for a superhumanly fast person to blink.
Originally posted by Q99
Sure there is, because they both move in comparison to humans, and to the ground. Unmodified but skilled humans like Sango and Miroku, are useful in fights with most demons. There's then the "superhuman but still quite followable" characters like IY himself, then there's the "superhuman and too fast for skilled humans to follow, but not out of the range of IY's movements to fight". That laddering gives us a rough idea of their speed.Nor do they move vast distances like miles in just a few seconds.
The Bleach characters aren't fast because they're in a world with cars (cars which, btw, never get seen in motion during the series), but because they are just objectively fast.
I understand you like Inu Yasha, but there is nothing to put it at Bleach speed levels. Either judging by scaling from characters or distance travelled, the fastest ones show no-where near the speed of captain class Bleach characters like Ichigo.
The top-level people can conduct fights in less time than it takes for a superhumanly fast person to blink.
1. I do like Inuyasha, i like Bleach also...
2. Sessho leaves afterimages when he moves, so i guess it would b fair 2 say that him & ichigo r on somewhat the same level of speed?
3.cars r seen in motion in Bleach, Orihime nearly got hit by 1 in an episode but her brother saved her
Originally posted by yung_link
1. I do like Inuyasha, i like Bleach also...
And I will note how much a series is liked has squat to do with power. I-Y doesn't show near Bleach's level.
2. Sessho leaves afterimages when he moves, so i guess it would b fair 2 say that him & ichigo r on somewhat the same level of speed?
Probably not. Sesshomaru leaves after-images in his direct path, Bleach people leave them over a dozen feet away from them. Individual shunpo moves (high-speed, can't-be-seen-with-eyes move) can cover hundreds of feet.
Take a look at this page. Yoruichi takes out around 14 people, spread out, some probably over 20 feet from her, in one quick burst. All of those people had superspeed via the shunpo techique, which is the "so fast normal people can't even follow" move.
3.cars r seen in motion in Bleach, Orihime nearly got hit by 1 in an episode but her brother saved her
Granted.
Still, we don't see them in comparison to the super-speed people. The era of the settings has nothing to do with their power levels, and heck, Inu Yasha probably interacts with modern day stuff more than most soul reapers in the times he travels to the present.
Originally posted by Q99....i looked at that picture...and now i am re-reading those chapters, that part is just so epic lol
Take a look at this page
Originally posted by Q99
And I will note how much a series is liked has squat to do with power. I-Y doesn't show near Bleach's level.Probably not. Sesshomaru leaves after-images in his direct path, Bleach people leave them over a dozen feet away from them. Individual shunpo moves (high-speed, can't-be-seen-with-eyes move) can cover hundreds of feet.
Take a look at this page. Yoruichi takes out around 14 people, spread out, some probably over 20 feet from her, in one quick burst. All of those people had superspeed via the shunpo techique, which is the "so fast normal people can't even follow" move.
Granted.
Still, we don't see them in comparison to the super-speed people. The era of the settings has nothing to do with their power levels, and heck, Inu Yasha probably interacts with modern day stuff more than most soul reapers in the times he travels to the present.
1. never said it had anything 2 do with power, just thought i should let u no🙂
2. Inuyasha kills enemies like that without moving anywhere; wind scar
3. nah probably not, due 2 he cant go outside very often cuz of the way he's always dressed, & his ears. while soul reapers on the other hand can travel freely while in a gigai(probably spelled it wrong)
Originally posted by yung_link2. Inuyasha kills enemies like that without moving anywhere; wind scar
3. nah probably not, due 2 he cant go outside very often cuz of the way he's always dressed, & his ears. while soul reapers on the other hand can travel freely while in a gigai(probably spelled it wrong)
The Wind Scar is cool and all, but in all actuality, Ichigo could more than likely block it, and it's easily evadable, hell, he may even tank it, he's shrugged off more powerful attacks before.
And when Inuyasha goes to the present, he wears his hat so people don't bother him, but people are always going crazy over his ass length silver hair.
Originally posted by yung_link
2. Inuyasha kills enemies like that without moving anywhere; wind scar
And Ichigo has his blasty move too. It's a *speed* example. Not even Sesshomaru or Koga can do stuff near what Yoruichi does there. Inu-Yasha could kill a group with a wind scar, but no-one in IY could hope to touch that speed, not even close to the same league.
And Ichigo at his fastest is so quick that Byakuya has trouble following him, and Byakuya is so quick he's invisible to Renji, and Renji is superhumanly fast, I'd guess in between IY and Sess.
There's, in short, no evidence that anyone in IY could touch captain speed. The gap in speed is huge.
Originally posted by KingD19
The Wind Scar is cool and all, but in all actuality, Ichigo could more than likely block it, and it's easily evadable, hell, he may even tank it, he's shrugged off more powerful attacks before.And when Inuyasha goes to the present, he wears his hat so people don't bother him, but people are always going crazy over his ass length silver hair.
ichigo's getsuga tenshou is shown 2 hurt very badly, but u rarely c it cut anything unless its used on a hollow, inuyasha's wind scar cuts all his enemies, all the time
Originally posted by Q99
And Ichigo has his blasty move too. It's a *speed* example. Not even Sesshomaru or Koga can do stuff near what Yoruichi does there. Inu-Yasha could kill a group with a wind scar, but no-one in IY could hope to touch that speed, not even close to the same league.And Ichigo at his fastest is so quick that Byakuya has trouble following him, and Byakuya is so quick he's invisible to Renji, and Renji is superhumanly fast, I'd guess in between IY and Sess.
There's, in short, no evidence that anyone in IY could touch captain speed. The gap in speed is huge.
i really dont care what u say about Koga but Sessho is a different story. hav u ever seen yoruichi, or even ichigo kill 100 hollows(pretty close in comparison 2 demons) with 1 swing of their sword? he doesnt even hav 2 move...& inuyasha fought him & lived...
Originally posted by yung_link
ichigo's getsuga tenshou is shown 2 hurt very badly, but u rarely c it cut anything unless its used on a hollow, inuyasha's wind scar cuts all his enemies, all the time
He's cut through enemies before, and he left cuts on Ulquiorra's hands, despite him being much more powerful than Ichigo, and having one of the toughest Hierro's of the Espada.
Originally posted by yung_link
i really dont care what u say about Koga but Sessho is a different story. hav u ever seen yoruichi, or even ichigo kill 100 hollows(pretty close in comparison 2 demons) with 1 swing of their sword? he doesnt even hav 2 move...& inuyasha fought him & lived...
The cannon fodder demons that Sesshomaru killed with Tessaiga can't be compared to even the lowest Hollows. A random hollow can beat several unseated shinigami at once. While a demon can be beaten by a regular person. Oh, and like I said, it wasn't Sesshomaru who killed the demons, it was Tessaiga. Also, Sesshomaru let him live.
Like I said though, Ichigo can dodge, block, or tank the Wind Scar...actually, I just realized, Wind Scar only works on demons, by finding the rift between the aura of Inuyasha, and the demon he's fighting. So he can't even rely on that.
Originally posted by KingD19
He's cut through enemies before, and he left cuts on Ulquiorra's hands, despite him being much more powerful than Ichigo, and having one of the toughest Hierro's of the Espada.The cannon fodder demons that Sesshomaru killed with Tessaiga can't be compared to even the lowest Hollows. A random hollow can beat several unseated shinigami at once. While a demon can be beaten by a regular person. Oh, and like I said, it wasn't Sesshomaru who killed the demons, it was Tessaiga. Also, Sesshomaru let him live.
Like I said though, Ichigo can dodge, block, or tank the Wind Scar...actually, I just realized, Wind Scar only works on demons, by finding the rift between the aura of Inuyasha, and the demon he's fighting. So he can't even rely on that.
1. hollows & demons arent that much different & CAN b compared. example: Yasutora Sado aka Chad fought one far b4 he realized he had superhuman powers, plus the random hollows just seem powerful because of the ridiculously weak soul reapers they fight
2. tessaiga or not, could ichigo kill that many demons @ once? no he could not no matter how fast he is
3. all enemies give off some sort of aura, it just goes by a different name in each anime, pretty sure the wind scar could b converted 2 work with spiritual pressure or reiatsu(however u spell it)
4. ichigo is portrayed as being pretty weak against high level enemies unless he's using getsuga tenshou & the moment he does that against inuyasha- BAM! Backlash Wave!
Re: Ichigo vs Inuyasha
Originally posted by yung_link
I had 2 do it! I saw another thread like this 1 but it hadnt been posted on in 3 years so... i made this 1🙂 o yea if u think u know who'd win dont just say "inuyasha" or "stomp in ichigo's favor" try a more sound argument.So.... who'd win it?
Ichigo hacks a reiatsu luggie and Inuyasha drowns in it...
Originally posted by yung_link
1. hollows & demons arent that much different & CAN b compared. example: Yasutora Sado aka Chad fought one far b4 he realized he had superhuman powers, plus the random hollows just seem powerful because of the ridiculously weak soul reapers they fight2. tessaiga or not, could ichigo kill that many demons @ once? no he could not no matter how fast he is
3. all enemies give off some sort of aura, it just goes by a different name in each anime, pretty sure the wind scar could b converted 2 work with spiritual pressure or reiatsu(however u spell it)
4. ichigo is portrayed as being pretty weak against high level enemies unless he's using getsuga tenshou & the moment he does that against inuyasha- BAM! Backlash Wave!
Yeah, even though he didn't realize he had powers, he still had them, no regular human can pick up a light pole and swing it like a bat, or catch a falling I-Beam and get nothing but a little blood trickle down their head. A random hollow is a threat to a random shinigami, and random demon is a threat to a random human who doesn't have any training, any human with some skill can kill the lower ranked demons, as shown multiple times throughout the Inuyasha anime/manga. The only humans in Bleach who fought Hollows successfully were Tatsuki(when she was part of Urahara's superhero squad and had that suit) and Don Konoji. Numerous humans harmed and killed Demons, Miroku and Sango have even killed demons without their powers and abilities, simply the staff and sword.
Ichigo couldn't kill 100 no name, cannon fodder demons that fast, but his Bankai Getsuga Tenshou would take out a lot of them, god forbid he uses his hollow abilities, because his cero would definitely destroy all 100, plus a large amount of the surrounding areas. And like I said, Wind Scar was only shown working against demonic opponents, that's why Inu never used it against humans, remember he couldn't use it against the Band of Seven, he had to beat Bankotsu by using the backlash wave.(Which only worked because Bankotsu was generating a demonic aura thanks to the seven corrupted Shikon shards) So until we have evidence of Wind Scar working on reiatsu and shinigami, then it's of no use here, since it's stated to only work on demons.
And Inuyasha is not a high level opponent, not to Ichigo anyway, and currently, he's one of the most powerful people in the series, he's one of the few people to wound Aizen. He caught an energy lance that destroyed a large portion of Heuco Mundo, he then caused an even larger blast that destroyed even more of the place. If Inuyasha could somehow use the backlash wave on him(which is also stated to only work on demons), then Ichigo could block, tank, or dodge it, he's that powerful.
I understand you like the character, I do too, but you're fighting a losing battle.
Originally posted by yung_link
2. tessaiga or not, could ichigo kill that many demons @ once? no he could not no matter how fast he is
With his blast abilities, yes, he could take them all at once. Heck, with his hollow2 mode he could likely wipe out tens/hundreds of thousands at once.
With just his sword and speed, not at *once* but... in a pretty short period of time and with no danger of taking any damage at all, at the least.
4. ichigo is portrayed as being pretty weak against high level enemies unless he's using getsuga tenshou & the moment he does that against inuyasha- BAM! Backlash Wave!
And if Ichigo uses his speed to get around the backlash wave? That also assumes Inu Yasha has the strength to repel his big blasts.... oh, also Ichigo can wrap the getsuga tenshou around his sword so it won't be a blast that can be backlashed, he'll just cut Inu Yasha with it.
And if Ichigo just when in melee, his superior speed and toughness would let him slice Inu Yasha apart no problem, getsuga or no.
Remember, Ichigo's somewhat weak against high-level opponents who are more powerful than anyone in IY and could blow up cities. Someone being powerful in IY doesn't mean they're high level to Ichi.
Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, even though he didn't realize he had powers, he still had them, no regular human can pick up a light pole and swing it like a bat, or catch a falling I-Beam and get nothing but a little blood trickle down their head. A random hollow is a threat to a random shinigami, and random demon is a threat to a random human who doesn't have any training, any human with some skill can kill the lower ranked demons, as shown multiple times throughout the Inuyasha anime/manga. The only humans in Bleach who fought Hollows successfully were Tatsuki(when she was part of Urahara's superhero squad and had that suit) and Don Konoji. Numerous humans harmed and killed Demons, Miroku and Sango have even killed demons without their powers and abilities, simply the staff and sword.Ichigo couldn't kill 100 no name, cannon fodder demons that fast, but his Bankai Getsuga Tenshou would take out a lot of them, god forbid he uses his hollow abilities, because his cero would definitely destroy all 100, plus a large amount of the surrounding areas. And like I said, Wind Scar was only shown working against demonic opponents, that's why Inu never used it against humans, remember he couldn't use it against the Band of Seven, he had to beat Bankotsu by using the backlash wave.(Which only worked because Bankotsu was generating a demonic aura thanks to the seven corrupted Shikon shards) So until we have evidence of Wind Scar working on reiatsu and shinigami, then it's of no use here, since it's stated to only work on demons.
And Inuyasha is not a high level opponent, not to Ichigo anyway, and currently, he's one of the most powerful people in the series, he's one of the few people to wound Aizen. He caught an energy lance that destroyed a large portion of Heuco Mundo, he then caused an even larger blast that destroyed even more of the place. If Inuyasha could somehow use the backlash wave on him(which is also stated to only work on demons), then Ichigo could block, tank, or dodge it, he's that powerful.
I understand you like the character, I do too, but you're fighting a losing battle.
the episode when he first used the backlash wave 2 kill the giant demon(cant remember its name) he was shown abusing the wind scar several times without a foe present. also i've said nothing in this debate about the red tetsusaiga, so i've not lost yet...