Ichigo vs Inuyasha

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Originally posted by yung_link
the episode when he first used the backlash wave 2 kill the giant demon(cant remember its name) he was shown abusing the wind scar several times without a foe present. also i've said nothing in this debate about the red tetsusaiga, so i've not lost yet...

This is not a win/lose situation. It's comparing two things with objective feats.

You may not have mentioned red tetsusaiga, but I am aware of it, and the overall comparison still stands. Likewise, the ability to do wind scar without a demon foe won't let him win.

Inu Yasha is flat out outmatched pretty much across the board. He does not have the speed to hit or to avoid being sliced up, he doesn't have a firepower advantage, and his toughness is much less.

Originally posted by Q99
This is not a win/lose situation. It's comparing two things with objective feats.

You may not have mentioned red tetsusaiga, but I am aware of it, and the overall comparison still stands. Likewise, the ability to do wind scar without a demon foe won't let him win.

Inu Yasha is flat out outmatched pretty much across the board. He does not have the speed to hit or to avoid being sliced up, he doesn't have a firepower advantage, and his toughness is much less.

inuyasha's red tetsusaiga is much like ichigo's getsuga enhanced blade, its strong enough 2 cut thru barriers as well as ppl...i hate that i even brought the wind scar up, he wouldnt need it 2 beat ichigo! his full-demon form could tear ichigo 2 shreds, he could hold off ichigo's sword with his claws & his demon-enhanced speed would b enough 2 take ichigo down.

Hollow Ichigo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Hollow Ichigo Lvl2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Vizard Ichigo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Your trying to amp Inuyasha up, and you're ignoring Ichigo's abilities, all of which trump Inuyashas. Just watch Bleach and compare with bias to Inuyasha.

And about him doing the Wind Scar without an opponent, fine, he can conjure it up, but as for using it in battle, it's specifically stated that he has to find the gap between his own demonic aura, and his enemies for it to work on them.

Originally posted by KingD19
Hollow Ichigo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Hollow Ichigo Lvl2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Vizard Ichigo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Demon Inuyasha

Your trying to amp Inuyasha up, and you're ignoring Ichigo's abilities, all of which trump Inuyashas. Just watch Bleach and compare with bias to Inuyasha.

And about him doing the Wind Scar without an opponent, fine, he can conjure it up, but as for using it in battle, it's specifically stated that he has to find the gap between his own demonic aura, and his enemies for it to work on them.

1. u can put as many "greater than" signs as u want inuyasha is no weakling, i wanna c ichigo survive having a whole punched in his stomach, inuyasha did...

2. wind scar; dont need it anymore, it would b a miracle if ichigo even got 2 c it...

3. i do realize ichigo's power, & no im not being biased if thats what u were implying. u fail 2 notice how strong inuyasha is even in comparison 2 ichigo

Originally posted by yung_link
1. u can put as many "greater than" signs as u want inuyasha is no weakling, i wanna c ichigo survive having a whole punched in his stomach, inuyasha did...

2. wind scar; dont need it anymore, it would b a miracle if ichigo even got 2 c it...

3. i do realize ichigo's power, & no im not being biased if thats what u were implying. u fail 2 notice how strong inuyasha is even in comparison 2 ichigo

Ichigo did survive having a hole punched in his chest, by a character who could easily solo the Inuyasha verse, Ulquiorra Schifer. And that was when he was just in Bankai mode. In his Hollow form, he has instantaneous regeneration, as in, cut my arm off and it grows back 2 seconds later.

2. Name what Inuyasha could use to beat Ichigo.

I am implying that you're being biased, because I watched/read all of Inuyasha, and I saw where his power capped, Ichigo has already passed that, and he's still getting stronger.

Originally posted by yung_link
inuyasha's red tetsusaiga is much like ichigo's getsuga enhanced blade, its strong enough 2 cut thru barriers as well as ppl...i hate that i even brought the wind scar up, he wouldnt need it 2 beat ichigo! his full-demon form could tear ichigo 2 shreds, he could hold off ichigo's sword with his claws & his demon-enhanced speed would b enough 2 take ichigo down.
I'm sorry, but that is pure conjecture, I have stated many reasons why Ichigo outclasses Inuyasha. just saying that Inuyasha is really tough while in his demon form, or with the red tetsusaiga, does not disprove the fact that ichigo has shown to be at least as fast and as powerful as Inuyasha very early on in the series, and has gotten dozens, if not hundreds of times more powerful since...I don't see how you could possibly see it going any other way, i am trying to see it your way, but it just makes no sense at all

Originally posted by KingD19
Ichigo did survive having a hole punched in his chest, by a character who could easily solo the Inuyasha verse, Ulquiorra Schifer. And that was when he was just in Bankai mode. In his Hollow form, he has instantaneous regeneration, as in, cut my arm off and it grows back 2 seconds later.

2. Name what Inuyasha could use to beat Ichigo.

I am implying that you're being biased, because I watched/read all of Inuyasha, and I saw where his power capped, Ichigo has already passed that, and he's still getting stronger.

i could name anything that has a high chance of beating ichigo, but u, Q99, & menokokoro would just say 1 of ichigo's forms could beat it, maybe i am being a little biased due 2 the fact that im outnumbered but inuyasha could win this match. ichigo has all his forms & stuff, but inuyasha's abilities r always there without form changing. I-Y has great stamina & can survive fatal hits in his regular form, he even survived with a shredded heart, the day ichigo does that i'll accept him as being better than inuyasha, but otherwise it has nothing 2 do with ichigo himself. what if ichigo is disarmed during battle(as seen with Kariya)? inuyasha still has his claws which r deadly, but what about ichigo? not only that, but inuyasha could easily block attacks by ichigo from all sides due to tessaiga's size & his dexterity with it, so speed really doesnt matter. he could block attacks from sessho so i no ichigo wouldnt pose a problem

Originally posted by yung_link
i could name anything that has a high chance of beating ichigo, but u, Q99, & menokokoro would just say 1 of ichigo's forms could beat it, maybe i am being a little biased due 2 the fact that im outnumbered but inuyasha could win this match. ichigo has all his forms & stuff, but inuyasha's abilities r always there without form changing. I-Y has great stamina & can survive fatal hits in his regular form, he even survived with a shredded heart, the day ichigo does that i'll accept him as being better than inuyasha, but otherwise it has nothing 2 do with ichigo himself. what if ichigo is disarmed during battle(as seen with Kariya)? inuyasha still has his claws which r deadly, but what about ichigo? not only that, but inuyasha could easily block attacks by ichigo from all sides due to tessaiga's size & his dexterity with it, so speed really doesnt matter. he could block attacks from sessho so i no ichigo wouldnt pose a problem

We say any of Ichigo's forms could beat it, because it's true.

You're being biased, because you've seen more of Inuyasha, and you obviously like the character more.

Ichigo has great stamina, and was stabbed completely through the heart, Grimmjow pumped five claws into his chest, one completely demolished a huge building in Hueco Mundo, Ichigo has gone through more than Inuyasha's body can handle, literally.

Inu has no way of disarming Ichigo, and even if he did, Ichigo's speed is to the point he could get his sword back before it hit the ground.

And no, Inuyasha cannot block attacks from all sides against a guy who leaves at least a dozen after images at will, and not like Sesshomaru, where it's Sesshomaru himself, then an afterimage in his wake. Ichigo could leave an afterimage, shunpo 40 feet away, leave another, then do 10 more at least.

Inuyasha's claws probably aren't even strong enough to cut Ichigo. And if Ichigo goes Hollow, it's over all the sooner.

And for the last time....Sesshomaru isn't as fast as Ichigo, he isn't as fast as more seated officers.

Originally posted by KingD19
We say any of Ichigo's forms could beat it, because it's true.

You're being biased, because you've seen more of Inuyasha, and you obviously like the character more.

Ichigo has great stamina, and was stabbed completely through the heart, Grimmjow pumped five claws into his chest, one completely demolished a huge building in Hueco Mundo, Ichigo has gone through more than Inuyasha's body can handle, literally.

Inu has no way of disarming Ichigo, and even if he did, Ichigo's speed is to the point he could get his sword back before it hit the ground.

And no, Inuyasha cannot block attacks from all sides against a guy who leaves at least a dozen after images at will, and not like Sesshomaru, where it's Sesshomaru himself, then an afterimage in his wake. Ichigo could leave an afterimage, shunpo 40 feet away, leave another, then do 10 more at least.

Inuyasha's claws probably aren't even strong enough to cut Ichigo. And if Ichigo goes Hollow, it's over all the sooner.

And for the last time....Sesshomaru isn't as fast as Ichigo, he isn't as fast as more seated officers.

u can say im being biased all u want, im just stating my opinion, thats the reason i created this thread, 2 express opinion. there is no such thing as a fact in this fight because u wont, & most likely never will c these 2 fight, understood? i hav seen several eps of Bleach, more than i've seen of Inuyasha, so if anything i should b able 2 tell u y ichigo would win, but not this time...i've seen ichigo fight many times, normally he'll attack, disappear 4 about 2 seconds, long enough 4 inuyasha 2 hear out his location or smell him out as previously stated, & block the attack. sure he might get a hit or two in but its not gonna b enough 2 kill some1 who has survived humanly fatal wounds; shredded heart, destroyed lungs, hole in stomach; ichigo couldnt survive that in his normal form...inuyasha's claws r strong enough 2 break swords, he can easily cut ichigo or break his sword @ least...ichigo could try his hardest but he's fighting a battle against a person who just wont die, from your point of view im being biased, but from mine im simply debating my part...


u can say im being biased all u want, im just stating my opinion, thats the reason i created this thread, 2 express opinion.

If it was just opinions yea, but you keep arguing the point, and just because you have an opinion doesn't mean the information we have available agrees.

You've said your opinion, fine. We've said why the available information disagrees. Fine. You then argue that the information is wrong and that IY has a chance. Not so fine. That goes beyond opinion, you need something to back that up or it's simply wrong. Debates are based on feats and information.

there is no such thing as a fact in this fight because u wont, & most likely never will c these 2 fight, understood?

Sure there is. Character A runs at 60 mph. Character B runs at mach 5. Who is faster? Character B.

There are facts here. Debate is based on individual info from their own shows. We can use the facts from each show to compare.

If there was no way to tell data from observed feats, there'd be no point in discussing in the first place.

i hav seen several eps of Bleach, more than i've seen of Inuyasha, so if anything i should b able 2 tell u y ichigo would win, but not this time...i've seen ichigo fight many times, normally he'll attack, disappear 4 about 2 seconds, long enough 4 inuyasha 2 hear out his location or smell him out as previously stated, & block the attack.

Keep in mind most of the people he fights are in turn superfast as well. We're watching the fight at their rate. The audience is always going to be able to follow the fight otherwise there's no show.

Ichigo couldn't even see Byakuya move when he first met him, and by later on he's faster than Byakuya.

Also, the Grimmjow fight shows him use a lot more speed and maneuverability than anyone in IY.

We get to see on-screens that Bleach captain class people have absurdly high speed, and why this is the case has been pointed out. That Inu Yasha's characters have not been shown with such absurd speed has also been pointed out. There simply is no comparison in speed.

sure he might get a hit or two in but its not gonna b enough 2 kill some1 who has survived humanly fatal wounds; shredded heart, destroyed lungs, hole in stomach; ichigo couldnt survive that in his normal form...inuyasha's claws r strong enough 2 break swords, he can easily cut ichigo or break his sword @ least...ichigo could try his hardest but he's fighting a battle against a person who just wont die,

No, he totally can't break his sword. Kenpachi was slicing building apart with the spiritual pressure of his sword and Ichigo could block that. Inu Yasha's claws don't compare. Likewise, the wounds IY took were from much weaker people, and anyway Ichigo could slash him dozens of times before he can blink, so taking him down isn't hard, and similarly the damage Ichigo can deal with his sword is in excess of the damage Inu Yasha has taken.

Ichigo's sword is not a normal sword. Ichigo delivers far more damage than Inu Yasha takes- in the Ulquiorra fight he *grabs* an attack big enough to destroy a *city*. We also see from the Kenpachi fight that if an attack doesn't have enough power, it'll literally bounce off someone with high spiritual pressure like Ichigo.

In terms of firepower, Ichigo is above Inu Yasha. In terms of toughness, he's far above. In terms of strength, he's well above. In speed, Inu Yasha shouldn't be able to so much as see him.

This is the information we have on the capabilities of the two. From that, we can conclude that Ichigo will slice him up in a fight.

from your point of view im being biased, but from mine im simply debating my part...

You don't seem to be debating based on observed feats. You just 'feel' that Inu Yasha should be able to do this or that, but based on what we've seen he shouldn't be able to do much of anything effectively.

Arguing against the observed feats is bad debating, and is bias debating.

You can't just argue against feats without feats of comparable level. Provide examples if you want to keep debating the point, otherwise you really should stop.

Originally posted by Q99
If it was just opinions yea, but you keep arguing the point, and just because you have an opinion doesn't mean the information we have available agrees.

You've said your opinion, fine. We've said why the available information disagrees. Fine. You then argue that the information is wrong and that IY has a chance. Not so fine. That goes beyond opinion, you need something to back that up or it's simply wrong. Debates are based on feats and information.

Sure there is. Character A runs at 60 mph. Character B runs at mach 5. Who is faster? Character B.

There are facts here. Debate is based on individual info from their own shows. We can use the facts from each show to compare.

If there was no way to tell data from observed feats, there'd be no point in discussing in the first place.

Keep in mind most of the people he fights are in turn superfast as well. We're watching the fight at their rate. The audience is always going to be able to follow the fight otherwise there's no show.

Ichigo couldn't even see Byakuya move when he first met him, and by later on he's faster than Byakuya.

Also, the Grimmjow fight shows him use a lot more speed and maneuverability than anyone in IY.

We get to see on-screens that Bleach captain class people have absurdly high speed, and why this is the case has been pointed out. That Inu Yasha's characters have not been shown with such absurd speed has also been pointed out. There simply is no comparison in speed.

No, he totally can't break his sword. Kenpachi was slicing building apart with the spiritual pressure of his sword and Ichigo could block that. Inu Yasha's claws don't compare. Likewise, the wounds IY took were from much weaker people, and anyway Ichigo could slash him dozens of times before he can blink, so taking him down isn't hard, and similarly the damage Ichigo can deal with his sword is in excess of the damage Inu Yasha has taken.

Ichigo's sword is not a normal sword. Ichigo delivers far more damage than Inu Yasha takes- in the Ulquiorra fight he *grabs* an attack big enough to destroy a *city*. We also see from the Kenpachi fight that if an attack doesn't have enough power, it'll literally bounce off someone with high spiritual pressure like Ichigo.

In terms of firepower, Ichigo is above Inu Yasha. In terms of toughness, he's far above. In terms of strength, he's well above. In speed, Inu Yasha shouldn't be able to so much as see him.

This is the information we have on the capabilities of the two. From that, we can conclude that Ichigo will slice him up in a fight.

You don't seem to be debating based on observed feats. You just 'feel' that Inu Yasha should be able to do this or that, but based on what we've seen he shouldn't be able to do much of anything effectively.

Arguing against the observed feats is bad debating, and is bias debating.

You can't just argue against feats without feats of comparable level. Provide examples if you want to keep debating the point, otherwise you really should stop.

so a shredded heart or destroyed lungs arent as deadly if its done by a weaker foe?hmm alrite since it seems that i cant state something that is indeed possible without being considered "bias" i'll stop posting here...i still dont accept your point of view but i'd hate 2 b seen as "bias", so there...

Originally posted by yung_link
so a shredded heart or destroyed lungs arent as deadly if its done by a weaker foe?

A stronger foe will shred more than a heart or lung is what I'm saying. Strength determines wound size.

hmm alrite since it seems that i cant state something that is indeed possible without being considered "bias" i'll stop posting here...i still dont accept your point of view but i'd hate 2 b seen as "bias", so there...

If you don't back up your points or refute the other examples, at least. Why Bleach has demonstrated superior speed to Inu Yasha has been explained out several times, as has the larger destructive power. Why you don't agree with them has not, just that you don't.

You don't argue why it's not true or respond to the specific parts, you just go back to talking about them like they're on-par. Ignoring the examples people are giving in other words without explaining why you're not accepting them. We tell you Bleach characters travel miles in the time it takes IY characters to travel hundreds of feet, and then you don't refute that, you just give examples as if they were the same speed.

Until you've back up your arguments you've got unsupported assumption, not a solid position in a debate.

Originally posted by KingD19
easily solo the Inuyasha verse, Ulquiorra Schifer.

😄 He would easily do so, simply by releasing an ass-load of SP and destroy everyone in the Feudal Age.

ok, (i dont know why i didn't say this earlier) in terms of power, ichigo could definitely tank anything that inuyasha throws at him, and this is why. ichigo once blocked a cero from a menos grande, then almost cut it in half, and this is when he was still a huge wuss (aka, he is hundrends, maybe even thousands of times stronger now) and if i remember right, that cero would have de-atomized everything it hit it is so powerful. so if he could do that at that point...yeah...

Like I said, Inuyasha's only hope is that black hole attack that sends you to hell, and it might not work on Ichigo since his power level is so much higher.

Yung I'm just wondering, Where exactly do you place Inuyasha in power and such? Like would you say he could take Grimmjow, Uliquiorra or Aizen? Where would you put him? Just curious ^_^

alrite im back, but im not here to argue anymore...ichigo wins...there i said it...*yelling* U hear that menokokoro, KingD19, & Q99! inuyasha loses...i felt like a sore loser the way i left this thread. i lost, & i realize that now, but as u can c i dont take loss very well...so u can imagine the immense amount of mental power it took 4 me 2 admit it...every1 that said ichigo stomps inuyasha is correct, i dont have true proof to argue that he doesnt, so i concede...i commend u 3 for beating me in my own thread...*whispers* u bastards! well go ahead & hi-5 or victory dance or whatever ur supposed 2 do when u win a debate...

edit: @Ban Mido
i dont no where exactly i place inuyasha in power anymore, seeing how my partialism made me severely overpower him in this debate...

Nothing to be mad/upset about, you just have to put your preferences aside, and look at the facts.

I like Yu-Yu-Hakusho better than Dragonball Z, but I'm not gonna say Yusuke at the end of the series could beat Vegeta, who was a proven planet buster when the series started, etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
Nothing to be mad/upset about, you just have to put your preferences aside, and look at the facts.

Yea. I think most people react similarly at first, it takes some practice to step back and enter a debate without being attached to one side or the other winning.

A lot of people still put their favorite in front, sometimes I even do it, not often, but I'll do it.