Originally posted by Omega Vision
Depending on the interpretation its either an LT-level being or its the same being as the Presence with a different name.
If it's LT than they stalemate, if it's equal to the presence and the presence is the same as the primal monitor, then it wins. The others make no difference.
Originally posted by Allankles
Btw it had nothing to do with some mixture of DS and the world causing havoc simply because he didn't belong. He was causing havoc because he's a higher dimensional being falling through the fabric of space-time in a lower dimesnional realm.It was stated a hundred times that Darkseid was the devil god dragging the whole multiverse into a singularity which was actually the center of Darkseid's own being.
Your theory is flawed because you don't know why Darkseid was dragging the multiverse down in the first place. His plan has always been to become supreme by recreating the 5th world (new iteration of reality) into his own image.
So New Genesis almost succeeded (even though they lost the battle) with Darkseid falling out of creation, but he stopped his descent. He then began to drag the multiverse within reach of the ALE (which was in one world) to enact his eons long plan for his version of the 5th world.
Without DS and his dark gods the 5th world would naturally have the heroes and humans becoming the new New Gods, eventually. Darkseid saw this future and wanted to prevent it for his own ends.
This is exactly what I said. He didn't belong... he was a higher dimensional being entering a lower dimension... You said exactly as I did. Point being, that is why the whole multiverse was collasping... Space/time was cracked first by the war and second by the ALE.. not DS doing... DS was killed... not a part of his plan or his powerset. Those two HUGE factors even allowed DS to use his will power to start dragging things down with him. NONE OF THAT was DS powerset. Jesus H. Christ. The only thing that was his powerset... was his sheer will power to not go down without a fight. His presence in a dimension he didn't belong started a process he decided he could take advantage of. Howeve4r, make no mistake he didn't wave his hand and start collasping the multiverse.. he exercised no multiveral power.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is exactly what I said. He didn't belong... he was a higher dimensional being entering a lower dimension... You said exactly as I did. Point being, that is why the whole multiverse was collasping... Space/time was cracked first by the war and second by the ALE.. not DS doing... DS was killed... not a part of his plan or his powerset. Those two HUGE factors even allowed DS to use his will power to start dragging things down with him. NONE OF THAT was DS powerset. Jesus H. Christ. The only thing that was his powerset... was his sheer will power to not go down without a fight. His presence in a dimension he didn't belong started a process he decided he could take advantage of. Howeve4r, make no mistake he didn't wave his hand and start collasping the multiverse.. he exercised no multiveral power.
Here is the point: *
Notice you have missed it. 😛