Another Police Brutality Video

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
"This is police brutality pure and simple," said Griffiths, who plans to file a civil lawsuit against police on McKenna's behalf.

Griffiths says the beating is only half the story. This is the sworn statement of charges against McKenna by the police alleges assault on a police officer and disorderly conduct. It claims McKenna "struck those officers and their horses causing minor injuries," and that McKenna was "kicked by the horses and sustained minor injuries."

The video does not support either of the police claims.

McKenna suffered a head wound requiring multiple staples. The injuries to his body match the pattern of the police batons -- not horses hooves

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0410/724880.html

I'm sure glad you are not a judge.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What was that? I didn't have time to read all of the article (I skimmed it).

"Authorities arrested Donat and McKenna on suspicion of assaulting an officer and disorderly conduct. Documents filed by police allege that the two were causing a disturbance and that they struck mounted officers and their horses, causing minor injuries, when authorities intervened.

"Arrested 1 and Arrested 2 were both kicked by the horses and sustained minor injuries," the charging documents said."

The video shows none of that. Shows the guy skipping along, then stopping in front of police officers, then backing up away from the officers when he sees them, then getting attacked.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm sure glad you are not a judge.

The police claimed that he assaulted them, but if you watch the video this is obviously not the case in the least bit.

He was just drunk and celebrating a recent win in basketball, while I have heard (from a close friend) that the two teams that played are a big rivarly that is why there was such a big police presence there. However, being drunk and celebrating is not a cause for getting the piss kicked out of you by a bunch of pricks with badges.

Originally posted by Liberator
The police claimed that he assaulted them, but if you watch the video this is obviously not the case in the least bit.

He was just drunk and celebrating a recent win in basketball, while I have heard (from a close friend) that the two teams that played are a big rivarly that is why there was such a big police presence there. However, being drunk and celebrating is not a cause for getting the piss kicked out of you by a bunch of pricks with badges.

Perhaps, but do you know that you have seen all of the video? If these police abused this student wrongfully, then they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and made an example of. But I do not go off and say that the police are wrong based on a video.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What was that? I didn't have time to read all of the article (I skimmed it).

They're saying McKenna (the fat kid) struck the officers, stuck the horse and his injuries were he result of the horse's hooves.

The video clearly shows he not only never attacked, but was walking slowly back and neither horse kicked him.

the extent of the assault is wrong and one can make a clear assumption of a video.. what they did isnt even close to how law enforcement are trained to subdue a suspect.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Perhaps, but do you know that you have seen all of the video? If these police abused this student wrongfully, then they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and made an example of. But I do not go off and say that the police are wrong based on a video.

If a video that clearly shows something isn't proof enough for you, what is? The testimonies of officers that are clearly already lying about the incident?

some one needs a nightstick to the dome and knock some common sense into them... 😗

conspiracy all lie!! the video was clearly edited and fabricated with actors..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
some one needs a nightstick to the dome and knock some common sense into them... 😗

conspiracy all lie!! the video was clearly edited and fabricated with actors..

That is a possibility, however, very unlikely. There is the possibility that the person who videotaped the event started after the initial encounter took place.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is a possibility, however, very unlikely. There is the possibility that the person who videotaped the event started after the initial encounter took place.

I take it you haven't watched the video then. You might want to do that, before commenting.

Originally posted by Robtard
I take it you haven't watched the video?

I did earlier, at home. My point is that we don't know. It really comes down to what you want to believe.

So, you have proof of some kind? The video dosn't show everything that happened, because video's can never tell everything. That video is only one point of view at a certan time.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I did earlier, at home. My point is that we don't know. It really comes down to what you want to believe.

They're you're insane or being willfully ignorant.

We see the fat-kid skipping down the street before the attack, we see him stop when he gets close to the first horse, we see him move back (ie not attack as claimed) when the first and second horse come at him, we him him being charged by riot-cops, slammed into a wall, go limp and we see him being beaten while he's out cold.

i use to tell myself if i ever get attacked again by pigs i would go limp and pretend to pass out and then have seizures but, now i think to cops it wouldnt matter if i was unconscious or not... and i might not have to fake seizures since they will actually be induced by them.

One of the officers have been suspended.

From my perspective....

The mounted cop did the right thing by blocking his path and making him stop (pretty obvious the student learn that by backing away) It only takes ONE idiot to lead a bunch to start a riot. The police in horse did the right thing. In past experiences with sports victory celebrations; riots always break out when civil disobidence errupts.

However, the other officers made an error by tackling him and clubbed the guy. There really was no need to do that...sure, you set an example but just pushing him away would have been sufficient. Cop on the horse did right...the others did not have to tackle him and beat him.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're you're insane or being willfully ignorant.

We see the fat-kid skipping down the street [b]before the attack, we see him stop when he gets close to the first horse, we see him move back (ie not attack as claimed) when the first and second horse come at him, we him him being charged by riot-cops, slammed into a wall, go limp and we see him being beaten while he's out cold. [/B]

And you do no understand what I am saying: You can only see what is on the tape: You cannot see what happened before: you cannot see what happened after: you cannot hear what was said: you cannot see what was going on from any other view. No can you understand how you do not have enough information to know what happened? If not then "They're you're insane or being willfully ignorant" one.

Or the officer couldn't have been on the sidewalk and let him continue skipping on down the road. There's always that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Just fines and community service?

That's usually what people get on their first minor criminal offense...in most municipalities, especially ones where the defendants are "upstanding citizens in the community", are white, and the judge is white. I'm not sure about you, but I would fall under that category.

Originally posted by Robtard
They should get sent to jail just as you or I would, if we charged a skipping fat-kid; slammed him into a wall; knocked him unconscious and then proceeded to stomp his rotund motionless body.

That's not what would happen in the same exact case, though. We wouldn't go to jail because we weren't caught in the act. The video surfaced almost a month later.

Believe it or not, I actually thought my comments through, before posting them. 😄

Originally posted by Robtard
They should also be kicked from the force and barred from ever joining again.

Agreed.

so lets say the guy did hit and push an officer off camera he then turned around and started skipping like nothing happen... then he stopped shouted i have a bomb!!! at which point they block his exit and tackle him..

tell me you dont see the police using excessive force once he is on the ground as criminal or against police training in subduing a suspect?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And you do no understand what I am saying: You can only see what is no the tape: You cannot see what happened before: you cannot see what happened after: you cannot hear what was said: you cannot see what was going on from any other view. No can you understand how you do not have enough information to know what happened? If not then "They're you're insane or being willfully ignorant" one.

The police aren't claiming he did something before, which caused this.

What happened after he was beaten? Not sure how that's relevant to him being beaten supposedly because he "attacked the officer and horse'?

Another view will show what you think? We clearly see his hands as he backs up; they never made an attack, which is what the police claim set off him being tackles, knocked-out and beaten.

We have a video clearly showing that the police statement on the incident is a lie. Call me insane and ignorant, but I tend to be distrustful of people once they lie.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
sigh.... i am sure happy for camcorders and video phones.. you would think cops would start realizing this sh#@ when they are thinking of doing this sh#@ in large group gatherings...

also what the police did is more then just assault and battery it is assault and battery with a deadly weapon with the intend to do harm or bodily injury..

FYI, you can post "shit."

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
a year in the slammer would be the least i would expect not adding other charges like falsifying police report also the other cops not doing anything should also be reprimanded or fired for allowing that Sh#$.. the minute one honest police officer looks the other way for the actions of a dirty police officer is the minute he too is a dirty officer.

I agree.

Also, this is why I would like Chillmeistergen to come back: he made a good point by saying that cops that do illegal things should have stiffer punishments due to their positions as being law enforcement: they more than know better and they should be held to a higher standard.