Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Police Brutality Video
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's usually what people get on their first minor criminal offense...in most municipalities, especially ones where the defendants are "upstanding citizens in the community", are white, and the judge is white. I'm not sure about you, but I would fall under that category.That's not what would happen in the same exact case, though. We wouldn't go to jail because we weren't caught in the act. The video surfaced almost a month later.
Don't think assaulting someone with a deadly weapon is a minor offense.
If you or I beat someone like that with a baton, there would be ample proof, in bruises for the prosecution.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Police Brutality Video
Originally posted by Robtard
Don't think assaulting someone with a deadly weapon is a minor offense.If you or I beat someone like that with a baton, there would be ample proof, in bruises for the prosecution.
Yeah, it's a minor offense that would most likely net you 0 jail time, fines, and community service. You may even have to take an anger management course. Dead serious. This assumes, of course, you have a clean record. If you had a record, you might face jail time.
Also, someone needs to edit the video. Right after the beat down is done, the annoucer dude needs to say, "FLAWLESS VICTORY!" as the text comes on the screen.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Police Brutality Video
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, someone needs to edit the video. Right after the beat down is done, the annoucer dude needs to say, "FLAWLESS VICTORY!" as the text comes on the screen.
Better yet, while he's being beaten, should say "Ultra Combo."
when i got my military police and base security training we were taught how to use batons and reasonable level of force.. most importantly they stressed DON'T HIT PPL IN THE HEAD WITH BATONS!!! hit them in the meaty areas to avoid serious harm.. like the thigh back of the leg to get them on the ground... or in the arm bicep area or stomach... not the ribs or neck or spine or any area like that..
once they are down to apply grapple techniques and use ur weight to keep them down as you apply them with your baton like an arm lock.. if you need to choke them dont cut off the wind pipe you might crush it but just the side of the neck area and keep watch of the suspect until he starts to weaken.. know when to release it so not to cause permanent damage. all this is done so you can place handcuffs and put them under control...
part of our training was to fight multiple ppl while also having things like OC in our face and apply our techniques without injuring each other...
i have not yet met anyone who can honestly say they were trained to just start randomly wailing on ppl as standard police training like those douche bags were on camera.
"ooh but, its not their fault. their parents abused them as kids maybe not sexually but emotionally that is why they are so violent and became cops.. they only lost control once who knows why. they should be given a second chance"... 😍 🙄
kisses
let me tell you one thing: life isnt butterflies and rainbows you dont get a free pass just b/c ur a cop who happen to think its okay to abuse ur authority and power and lie and turn victims into criminals.
some ppl need to keep their wishful self indulgent hippie thinking outside of the court system of laws and learn to apply it equally across the board.
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/mktnjcsfhw--Learn-to-pull-the-triggerWesley-Snipes-Blade-
I don't understand why three officers would all join in on a random beating at once. The civilian didn't attack anyone or do anything other than skip and act drunk. These type of policemen make my stomach churn.
I wish the law was harder on police. It's just not equality. If I did that, I'd be in prison for a long time. What makes them so special? If anything, they should be even more harshly punished than a civilian for abusing their power.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
"minor offense"?assault is an automatic felony/federal crime.
No it's not.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
the only reason they may get off without jail time is because theyre in maryland. in many other states though, jail time would be unavoidable. in Connecticut assault would net you 5 years minimum.
No it wouldn't.
unfortunatly, I have to agree with DDM, people with no records are given a lot of leeway.
I know this is Canada, but a friend of my was the victim of a home invasion (one of the guys hit him in the face with a loaded gun), and afaik, because it was the guys first offense, he isn't looking at any serious jail time. I admit, I could have this totally wrong, but last I talked to him, it didn't appear that the guy was going away.
Originally posted by inimalist
unfortunatly, I have to agree with DDM, people with no records are given a lot of leeway.I know this is Canada, but a friend of my was the victim of a home invasion (one of the guys hit him in the face with a loaded gun), and afaik, because it was the guys first offense, he isn't looking at any serious jail time. I admit, I could have this totally wrong, but last I talked to him, it didn't appear that the guy was going away.
Yeah but these are coppers, people who are meant to be 'defending the law'.
They should be tried harder than the average person because of the 'responsability' given to them by the State. Fined, imprisoned, and fired.
Originally posted by inimalist
unfortunatly, I have to agree with DDM, people with no records are given a lot of leeway.I know this is Canada, but a friend of my was the victim of a home invasion (one of the guys hit him in the face with a loaded gun), and afaik, because it was the guys first offense, he isn't looking at any serious jail time. I admit, I could have this totally wrong, but last I talked to him, it didn't appear that the guy was going away.
Yeah, that's assault with a deadly weapon, qualifies as aggravated assault and falls under aggravated battery, and that is definitely a felony, here in the US. You would face Jail time in the US, in that particular scenario.
However, a police officer going way overboard with his baton when he or she was in charge of riot control after a game that can have drunken mayhem, the worse that will happen is a loss of job.
Change the police officers over to regular citizens, and it would be a minor form of aggrivated assault because of...ding ding ding, mens rea, and actus rea.
What were the officer's motivation? No idea what words took place, but he was skipping like an idiot right towards the police. Worst case scenario, the happy fat guy 'aggravated' the situation, slightly, and earned himself excessive force from police officers, with no felony, or crime comitted from either party.
The gentleman can and SHOULD bring up a civil suit for tort battery case.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, that's assault with a deadly weapon, qualifies as aggravated assault and falls under aggravated battery, and that is definitely a felony, here in the US. You would face Jail time in the US, in that particular scenario.
we have way harder gun laws too, like a no strikes system, so I might be remembering it wrong (like, the sentencing, not the actual crime), or they might not have found the gun on him...
Originally posted by dadudemon
The gentleman can and SHOULD bring up a civil suit for tort battery case.
well, if we want to get into the realm of "shoulds":
The police SHOULD never be allowed to be officers again
They SHOULD face some sort of legal reprimant
and they SHOULD face harsher penalties and higher expectations than the normal public