Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

Started by ScreamPaste44 pages

Has. It. Ever. Protected. Him. Against. Tele. Kinesis?
I quote you denying Ganon has TK, and you change your tune back to denying the master sword protects from it, by golly jee.

Here's where I highlight that TK has been used on Link, it's just never worked with the master sword present. Twilight Princess, Zant TK's Link, Midna, and the light spirit. Turns Link into a Wolf. Moments later, Link has the master sword, and is no longer a Wolf, thanks once more to the master sword's protection. Then Zant's ass finds itself promptly kicked, with a startling lack of telekinesis being appllied to Link. This occurs in the twilight realm, which normally would transform Link into a soul, except for the master sword explicitly protecting him, again.

Yeah, it has. 😐 And also whatever that thing was that Ganon tried in OoT. We don't know what it would have done, but we can assume it would have sucked.

Outrunning cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAZa6zsROg

Bayo catching a missile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfoLMjE2Kk#t=2m02s

and hopping onto one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfoLMjE2Kk#t=2m24s

More bullet-timing (gunmen was behind the clouds so aimdodging is nowhere near possible). Oh, and the rain stopping feat is there too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtfwvcJGuBw#t=3m11s

Yeah, seeing it doesn't mean we can react to it.

Here's where I highlight that TK has been used on Link, it's just never worked with the master sword present. Twilight Princess, Zant TK's Link, Midna, and the light spirit. Turns Link into a Wolf. Moments later, Link has the master sword, and is no longer a Wolf, thanks once more to the master sword's protection. Then Zant's ass finds itself promptly kicked, with a startling lack of telekinesis being appllied to Link. This occurs in the twilight realm, which normally would transform Link into a soul, except for the master sword explicitly protecting him, again.

Oh, so no it hasn't. Someone not doing something does not mean they can't. Like in a Superman comic where he can disarm a hostage situation in 0.0004 seconds, but instead chooses to stands there and *****. In other words, For the purposes of the story the character becomes thick and/or forgets they have powers. Classic PIS.

Yeah, seeing it doesn't mean we can react to it.

The key word is can, not will. There is a chance that can dodge, becuase we've identified it and sent signals to our muscles to move. Whether we do or not is determined to speed. Reaction time does not equal dodging.

Oh, so no it hasn't. Someone not doing something does not mean they can't. Like in a Superman comic where he can disarm a hostage situation in 0.0004 seconds, but instead chooses to stands there and *****. In other words, For the purposes of the story the character becomes thick and/or forgets they have powers. Classic PIS.

....mariofacepalm Are you ignoring the content of my post on purpose?

Are you ignoring the content of my post on purpose?

Sigh....

'Here's where I highlight that TK has been used on Link, it's just never worked with the master sword present.'

TK has been used on Link. Irrelevent.

'Moments later, Link has the master sword, and is no longer a Wolf, thanks once more to the master sword's protection.'

Mastersword dispels curse. Irrelevent.

Then Zant's ass finds itself promptly kicked, with a startling lack of telekinesis being appllied to Link.

Key point and only relevent thing. No TK is used on Link. You are ASSUMING that this is becuase he can't. Where is your damn proof? Was it attempted? NO! Can we then say it would fail if it was? No!

'This occurs in the twilight realm, which normally would transform Link into a soul, except for the master sword explicitly protecting him, again.'

Again, abso-damn-lutely irrelevent.

Equals:


Oh, so no it hasn't. Someone not doing something does not mean they can't. Like in a Superman comic where he can disarm a hostage situation in 0.0004 seconds, but instead chooses to stands there and *****. In other words, For the purposes of the story the character becomes thick and/or forgets they have powers. Classic PIS.

I advise you not to underestimate my ability to comprehend anything that you write. Then you can avoid moments like this.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Outrunning cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAZa6zsROg

Bayo catching a missile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfoLMjE2Kk#t=2m02s

and hopping onto one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfoLMjE2Kk#t=2m24s

More bullet-timing (gunmen was behind the clouds so aimdodging is nowhere near possible). Oh, and the rain stopping feat is there too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtfwvcJGuBw#t=3m11s

The last video proves that she can hurt people while being in Paradiso. If Jeanne can harm Bayonetta while intangible, I can't see why it couldn't be vice-versa. They're both Umbra witches and have the same abilities.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Arwings take blasts that were used to pierce a planet's crust. Cracking the windshield is pretty insane.

The Arwings in Brawl aren't the same as the ones in Star Fox 64. In Brawl, it was knocked out of the air by a grappling arm and then totaled by Rayquaza's Dragon Pulse. And don't say, "But Rayquaza is a strong Pokemon". It wouldn't survive a fight with Venom.

Also, when has the Arwing taken a hit from a crust-piercing laser? Don't give me gameplay because that's not proof enough.


That Hermes video failed. Got a different one?

Just tried both of them. They work.


Edit: I'd replay DMC4 before I played Bayonetta. Both of them look like shit, and I know that DMC4 is.

The only shitty things about Bayonetta are the music, a lot of the lines, and the dumb dancing. Other than that, it's superior to DMC4.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Link isn't worried about TK. Bayonetta is evil, right? Oh well, don't think she has TK. Sheik is probably too fast for it, can also teleport.

Just as evil as Kratos. And Sheik is nowhere on Bayonetta's level. At best, she would be at Joy's level.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, sober nao. Sheik has a better speed, precision, and strength feat than Bayonetta, she'd kill her before she coudl evne use her time slow. 😐 Which would at best give her a chance to fight laser dodgers.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
YouTube video Just one of many examples. 😐 It also protects him from Twilight, reflects magic, cuts through barriers, freezes time, (which Ganon later proves himself immune to. D:!) ect.

People claim we argue Ganon can't because he doesn't, but he clearly does, and it doesn't worek, and we've seen the MS protect him before.

Uhm, no. 😮

That's not telekinesis. Those are probably fear-inducing waves.

I advise you not to underestimate my ability to comprehend anything that you write. Then you can avoid moments like this.
You mean the moment where I highlight that the sword's protected him from a multitude of things and TK is just one? Also, I lol'd at how you claimed the sword protecting him was irrelevent.

That's not telekinesis. Those are probably fear-inducing waves.
BAd assumption. We don't know what it did, only that it would have sucked and did somethign bad to Link if it had worked. Is relevant though, is one of the many showings of the sword protecting Link from things.

Edit: are you laughing at the "sober nao" comment, or my post?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean the moment where I highlight that the sword's protected him from a multitude of things and TK is just one? Also, I lol'd at how you claimed the sword protecting him was irrelevent.

BAd assumption. We don't know what it did, only that it would have sucked and did somethign bad to Link if it had worked. Is relevant though, is one of the many showings of the sword protecting Link from things.

Edit: are you laughing at the "sober nao" comment, or my post?

I don't believe you're sober.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Just tried both of them. They work.

The only shitty things about Bayonetta are the music, a lot of the lines, and the dumb dancing. Other than that, it's superior to DMC4.

Just as evil as Kratos. And Sheik is nowhere on Bayonetta's level. At best, she would be at Joy's level.

Didn't for me.

It isn't hard to be better than DMC4. Bayonetta is definitely a game I would not play.

That's pretty evil. Sheik so far > Bayonetta.

If I were drinking I wouldn't be sitting at my computer staring at KMC out of boredom.

Edit: when did Bayonetta become as evil as Kratos? I'm assuming that was a sarcastic remark, since Kratos has a pile of feats of douchebaggery, while Bayonetta is just obnoxious? (Her existance is an evil act by Capcom >_>😉

You mean the moment where I highlight that the sword's protected him from a multitude of things and TK is just one? Also, I lol'd at how you claimed the sword protecting him was irrelevent.

When you're trying to claim that something (Teh MS) protects someone (Link) from something (TK), its nonsensical to show that it protects him from lots of other things. Its like me saying I can block your fist with my arm and then saying that obviously I can therefore block a supernova (or any flame) with my arm. They're completely different thing. 😬

Its also irrelevent you saying that its just one thing be protected from unless you can actually prove it. Untill then its just speculation.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When you're trying to claim that something (Teh MS) protects someone (Link) from something (TK), its nonsensical to show that it protects him from lots of other things. Its like me saying I can block your fist with my arm and then saying that obviously I can therefore block a supernova (or any flame) with my arm. They're completely different thing. 😬

Its also irrelevent you saying that its just one thing be protected from unless you can actually prove it. Untill then its just speculation.


Strawman fallacy.

I'm not speculating anything.

Did someone say better precision than Bayo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKmPol4wCtE#t=7m47s

Strawman fallacy.

I'm not speculating anything.

Well you're not proving anything either.

Prove it protects him from TK. PIS and absences don't count.

edit: For the third time: Bayonetta solos. Thanks Keollyn. 👆

Originally posted by Keollyn
Did someone say better precision than Bayo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKmPol4wCtE#t=7m47s


YouTube video
Sheik's is better.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well you're not proving anything either.

Prove it protects him from TK. PIS and absences don't count.

edit: For the third time: Bayonetta solos. Thanks Keollyn. 👆

Absence of proof? 😐 So, you /are/ ignoring all the times it's protected him? 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well you're not proving anything either.

Prove it protects him from TK. PIS and absences don't count.

edit: For the third time: Bayonetta solos. Thanks Keollyn. 👆

No problem. I'd post more, but it seems they're falling on deaf's ear

@Scream: I've seen that video. Did you post it to prove something though?

Sheik's precision is better. Bayonetta can shoot a target that stands still, Sheik can teleport onto a laser dodging Arwing and smash it's windshield.

I've seen nothing that suggests Bayonetta soloes. The most dangerous person on team one is Kratos, Bayonetta is in danger of being wasted by Sheik.

Teleportation takes precision?

Wha?

Originally posted by Keollyn
Teleportation takes precision?

Wha?

Yes, it does, especially to teleport onto a moving target, especially one that fast.