Sentry vs Superman

Originally posted by krisblaze
This thread is a wash anyways.

Sentry's fans are too heavily invested in him for there to be any real debate.

The most heavily invested Superman fans have already noted this down as an easy win for him (as they always do 😛) and cleared for more interesting threads.

Which leaves mildly interested people and a rabid Sentry population 🙂

People need to stop being obtuse. Death Sentry is a different version than regular Sentry. Don't make me come back in here.

Those of you who don't know me, I ban people. 👆

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So, what i get from this thread is that by feats, Superman is far stronger, faster and more invulnerable, and that he would keep on beating Sentry into atoms, till Sentry has finally enough of this humiliating and pain that he uses his greatest power of all, letting others kill him. 👆

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Originally posted by carver9
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Sorry but after going through the new Respect thread I realised that Superman evolved from the mid-high Herald during his Byrne era to a solid Trans or even higher (physically) at the end of the pre-Flashpoint times. It might be hard to swallow for you bro, but you swolled worse as far as i know ^^.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Sorry but after going through the new Respect thread I realised that Superman evolved from the mid-high Herald during his Byrne era to a solid Trans or even higher (physically) at the end of the pre-Flashpoint times. It might be hard to swallow for you bro, but you swolled worse as far as i know ^^.

I agree that Superman would win against the Sentry.

In fact; any high herald from the KMC tier list would beat the Sentry for a majority.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

Originally posted by krisblaze
I disagree with your trans assessment.

I agree that Superman would win against the Sentry.

In fact; any high herald from the KMC tier list would beat the Sentry for a majority.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

And I disagree with you disagreeing with me. sneer

Originally posted by Badabing
People need to stop being obtuse. Death Sentry is a different version than regular Sentry. Don't make me come back in here.

Those of you who don't know me, I ban people. 👆

You see quani, I told you you were lying.

Rao 100

Quan 0

Originally posted by krisblaze
I'll get a mod ruling on this for you, to stop this desperation.

Yeah, your going to need their help to have any hope of swaying this matchup to your favor. Desperation indeed.

But I guess every Thor thread has him hammerless then? The Thor vs Superman thread suddenly turned into a mad spite-thread? 😆

Not even sure where your going with this. Doesn't Thor usually have his hammer all the time? DS haven't displayed any new powers or abilities that Sentry haven't displayed before. He just doesn't have any mental issues holding him back now.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577880.html
Here's the ruling on Sentry/Void.

Nobody mentioned the void

People have already started separating Death Sentry from regular Sentry or the Void.

Just the people that have issues with sentry it appears. They are the same character so why do we need to choose? The void I can understand but even that's sketchy.

I honestly thought you understood the no-limits fallacy. [URL=http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/No_limits_fallacy]Here it is, easily explained.

I understand the no limits fallacy. It handicaps characters to make threads more interesting for overmatched characters.

Well, just being in the sun dispersed his molecules (Btw: Thor has 3 incidents of handling this, Superman at least 5).

Sentry has as well

Superman's heat vision is at least that. Hotter by some accounts, and he can wide-spray it to cover a planet....So Sentry's toast.

Um,,,no. If anything, it's probably the other way around at this point. Sentry ok,d Thor with his. Can't see superman doing the same

He's none of those things, and if he can't die then he can't access the white hot room (where he supposedly left the void).

He,s easily all of those things and more. There is no need for the void. Nobody mentioned the void so I'm not sure why you keep bringing him up.

Stupid iPad. I can't even type on this damn thing

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, your going to need their help to have any hope of swaying this matchup to your favor. Desperation indeed.

Not even sure where your going with this. Doesn't Thor usually have his hammer all the time? DS haven't displayed any new powers or abilities that Sentry haven't displayed before. He just doesn't have any mental issues holding him back now.

Thor lost his hammer 3 weeks ago, and was supposed to serve as an example of how ridiculous it would've been if it was current incarnation, without any consideration of when the thread was created. Which would mean that any Thor thread would now have a hammerless Thor.

Originally posted by tkitna
Nobody mentioned the void

Originally posted by tkitna
Just the people that have issues with sentry it appears. They are the same character so why do we need to choose? The void I can understand but even that's sketchy.

Not the same character 🙂

Originally posted by tkitna
I understand the no limits fallacy. It handicaps characters to make threads more interesting for overmatched characters.

Originally posted by tkitna
Um,,,no. If anything, it's probably the other way around at this point. Sentry ok,d Thor with his. Can't see superman doing the same

Sentry was disintegrated by the core of the sun.

That's how hot Superman's heat vision can run, and he can spray a planet with it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, so as you see, Bada confirmed my suspicion. We use the [b]current incarnation from when the thread was started .

Thor lost his hammer 3 weeks ago, and was supposed to serve as an example of how ridiculous it would've been if it was current incarnation, without any consideration of when the thread was created. Which would mean that any Thor thread would now have a hammerless Thor.

I mentioned to void, as an example of how the mods/forum/members separate characters.

They are not the same character.
2009 Sentry doesn't have the death-seed and he's not free of the void.

Not the same character 🙂

Then you did not understand it.

The other way around? Solar energy doesn't affect Superman negatively.

Sentry was disintegrated by the core of the sun.

That's how hot Superman's heat vision can run, and he can spray a planet with it. [/B]

When you're speaking of him being disintegrated in the Sun, could you state what occasion you are speaking of please?

There is context to them situations. And he has flown through a sun unharmed before.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
When you're speaking of him being disintegrated in the Sun, could you state what occasion you are speaking of please?

There is context to them situations. And he has flown through a sun unharmed before.

It's a pointless discussion though.

Any Sentry fan will stick to a reasoning of 'sentry was hurt because he wanted to' and 'he has regenerated, so he can regenerate infinitely'.

So yeah, pointless 🙂

Originally posted by krisblaze
The one incident where his molecules were disintegrated.

It's a pointless discussion though.

Any Sentry fan will stick to a reasoning of 'sentry was hurt because he wanted to' and 'he has regenerated, so he can regenerate infinitely'.

So yeah, pointless 🙂

i don't think angry scot falls into that category (from what i've seen of his posts....) but, yeah--that isn't the worst generalization. 😬

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So, what i get from this thread is that by feats, Superman is far stronger, faster and more invulnerable, and that he would keep on beating Sentry into atoms, till Sentry has finally enough of this humiliating and pain that he uses his greatest power of all, letting others kill him. 👆

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I believe that you are having some troubles with your cognitive abilities...

SENTRY to Superman is indeed stronger, is indeed faster and is indeed more invulnerable.

I'm glad that I could clear that up for you...

Good day to you Sir

CTFO

Originally posted by krisblaze
The one incident where his molecules were disintegrated.

It's a pointless discussion though.

Any Sentry fan will stick to a reasoning of 'sentry was hurt because he wanted to' and 'he has regenerated, so he can regenerate infinitely'.

So yeah, pointless 🙂

Just to double check then, are you speaking of Siege where Thor chucked him in the sun?

Or where Sentry flew himself into it to kill himself but the Void stated he didn't want it enough.

The thing is with you saying Sentry fans stick to that argument it's the Sentry's mojo. it's not like I am talking out my backside when I say it. That is what Sentry does.

In Siege he died because he wanted Thor to kill him.

In WWH he was bloodied by Hulk because he wanted to be put down so he wasn't a risk. Where he was asking for punch after punch.

Or where he flew into the Sun to kill himself and if you remember pretty soon he was nothing but a skeleton but soon the Void says to Sentry he didn't want it enough so he turned back.

So I don't think it's pointless having the debate. It's just what Sentry does with regards to him returning from serious injury. Just like the Morgana Le Fay incident. If he was feeling really bad there he could've just stayed dead, but he wanted to come back so he reappeared infront of the Watchtower.

Or if you're speaking of while he was in the Sun he wanted to stay dead but the Void was in a constant battle with the Sentry. Sentry who wanted to stay dead and the Void who wanted to return, eventually the Void got bored and left. So as we know he then came back in Uncanny Avengers.

Plus I haven't ever stated he could regenerate infinitely, all I have said was he has recovered from very harmful injuries in his time but never mentioned infinite regeneration. I've only ever made reference to him surviving from injuries he has received in comics which are quite extreme.

(Unless you are talking of someone making an outrageous claim on another thread or something I haven't seen.)

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, so as you see, Bada confirmed my suspicion. We use the [b]current incarnation from when the thread was started . [/B]

It should be obvious for people, but I guess it's easier to troll than to defend an opinion.

We always use current versions except if the current version is something which is a different incarnation of a character. Some examples of different versions of a character would be: Superdoom, World War Hulk, Dick Grayson as Batman, Female Thor, World Breaker Hulk, Doomsday (HP, DoS), etc.

And I really don't want to hear feigned ignorance about this either. Everybody knows the rules. And if some people don't, it should be common sense what the original intent the thread starter and what the spirit of the thread should be.

I really don't like giving out warnings, bans, or closing threads. But I won't let +-8 people continue to cause problems for everybody else. So if one day there are several long term temp bans, you'll know why.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Sorry but after going through the new Respect thread I realised that Superman evolved from the mid-high Herald during his Byrne era to a solid Trans or even higher (physically) at the end of the pre-Flashpoint times. It might be hard to swallow for you bro, but you swolled worse as far as i know ^^.

I know. Like Hulk, I think he has evolved from High Herald to Skyfather levels. Can't think of anyone who has effortlessly ripped adamantium, tank adamantium melting weapons, tank weapons that destroys all the way to the molecular level, punching through a force field that the Ebony Blade was unable to pierce, punched time so hard that everything reversed back to the way it was before, and nearly overpowered a being that was controlling a Phoenix and a IG wielder. Tanking continental level attacks while punching a ship the size of a continent across space. These are his recent fts within a yr or 2. Then he had a showing like Wraith and Superman where they were fighting in Earth's Mantle but the difference is, his punches was destroying Earth.

These characters are advancing. Superman trans and Hulk skyfather to Abstract and Thor having abstract fts as well.

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Thanks for making me see the light Batman Prime. Now stop derailing the thread with this craziness. Neither Thor, Hulk, or Superman is operating at trans or Skyfather levels unless certain circumstances are involved.