Sentry vs Superman

Started by Brockalizer117 pages

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Hardly. An all-out Superman would need to give it his all in order to take on WWH the way Sentry did. Unless I am missing something, and this forum has suddenly metamorphosed into comicvine, superman isn't replicating Sentry's battle with the Hulk without burning up as Sentry did so.
An all-out Superman would use all of his powers to the fullest, rather than just standing there trading punches. After taking a couple blows from the Hulk, Superman would adjust his strategy and mix things up a bit like he has consistantly done in the past.

Agreed.

Sentry was a retard. Like most everyone who fights Hulk.

This isn't the same thread I started participating in yesterday. What happened to the "All-out Sentry vs All-out Superman" thread? And why is this showing up on my CP page instead?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed.

Sentry was a retard. Like most everyone who fights Hulk.


That's comics period. Not just limited to the Hulk.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed.

Sentry was a retard. Like most everyone who fights Hulk.

So people that fight Hulk and Doomsday and get punched to sleep are retards?

All out Superman is far stronger than Sentry and much more durable.
Sentry had the damage soak going for him.
Superman is much faster and can use his speed more efficiently.
Superman has ranged attacks like HV and the cheap Freeze Breath.
Superman can multitask his powers, like shoot HV, Freeze Breath, and punch at the same time.

Superman beats this version of Sentry easily in a forum fight.

Originally posted by carver9
So people that fight Hulk and Doomsday and get punched to sleep are retards?
If they stand there toe to toe trading punches when they have other options, then yes.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
If they stand there toe to toe trading punches when they have other options, then yes.

Right. He wasnt really trying to win (although he thought he would). He pretty much just used him as a tool to release his energy on. He goaded the Hulk into continuing the fight by standing there and letting him punch him. Not the best tactic to win a fight. Especially from somebody who could have done something about it.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
An all-out Superman would use all of his powers to the fullest, rather than just standing there trading punches. After taking a couple blows from the Hulk, Superman would adjust his strategy and mix things up a bit like he has consistantly done in the past.

This is true, but Sentry had a reason to just stand there and take the punishment. He wanted the Hulk to keep coming. Superman would have no reason to do that.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
If they stand there toe to toe trading punches when they have other options, then yes.

Sentry, Genis, nor Gladiator just stood there trading punches and it got them no where. I think you are underestimating Hulk and Doomsday my friend.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is true, but Sentry had a reason to just stand there and take the punishment. He wanted the Hulk to keep coming. Superman would have no reason to do that.

Hulk had a reason to stand there and let Sentry blitz him. He didn't want to fight but we see where that got him.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry, Genis, nor Gladiator just stood there trading punches and it got them no where. I think you are underestimating Hulk and Doomsday my friend.
Underestimation has nothing to do with it. I fully acknowledge that Hulk that would be a physical threat to Superman, however, unless Hulk starts throwing shit or tries the "Hulk clap" he is a close quarters melee brawler. Before you counter with Hulk beating Thor, or another similar opponent remember that those same opponents generally hold their own when the keep their distance. It's not until they get within Hulk's range that they get into trouble.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Underestimation has nothing to do with it. I fully acknowledge that Hulk that would be a physical threat to Superman, however, unless Hulk starts throwing shit or tries the "Hulk clap" he is a close quarters melee brawler. Before you counter with Hulk beating Thor, or another similar opponent remember that those same opponents generally hold their own when the keep their distance. It's not until they get within Hulk's range that they get into trouble.

And staying away from Hulk, what does that suppose to do? I guess they can throw some chairs at him or take the time (and probably struggle) to toss a mountain at him. Do you honestly believe that will stop him (the only thing that will do is make him even more powerful)? Do you think heat vision and Ice breath will drop Hulk? REALLY? If you plan on dropping a character like Doomsday or Hulk, your fist is the only way of doing this and majority of the time, that aint happening. Then you are underestimating Hulk burst of speed. The guy have surprised some of the best of them along with his jumping speed (Air Walker has FTL travel speed and he couldn't get away from Hulk and even admitted Hulk was too fast to dodge).

The point is, Hulk has beaten the best of them and all of them tend to use other powers besides punching and kicking...Hulk durability and healing factor allows him to endure those attacks and Hulk aggressiveness allows him to overcome and defeat his opponents. So again, I dont get the point you and Zack was trying to make.

Originally posted by carver9
And staying away from Hulk, what does that suppose to do? I guess they can throw some chairs at him or take the time (and probably struggle) to toss a mountain at him. Do you honestly believe that will stop him (the only thing that will do is make him even more powerful)? Do you think heat vision and Ice breath will drop Hulk? REALLY? If you plan on dropping a character like Doomsday or Hulk, your fist is the only way of doing this and majority of the time, that aint happening. Then you are underestimating Hulk burst of speed. The guy have surprised some of the best of them along with his jumping speed (Air Walker has FTL travel speed and he couldn't get away from Hulk and even admitted Hulk was too fast to dodge).

The point is, Hulk has beaten the best of them and all of them tend to use other powers besides punching and kicking...Hulk durability and healing factor allows him to endure those attacks and Hulk aggressiveness allows him to overcome and defeat his opponents. So again, I dont get the point you and Zack was trying to make.

If Superman could only use one power at a time then I would agree completely. However, he has an extensive track record of using multiple powers for devastating combo attacks. You mention heat vision attacks like they are insignificant. Just off the top of my head I can think of a couple different strategies that would devastate Hulk under these conditions.
A.) Surgical strike with heat vision and fry the rage center of the Hulk's brain.
B.) Using cold breath to ice the ground an prevent Hulk from maintaining solid footing long enough to send him skyward with and upercut similar to when Nul fought Thor, and then follow with an aerial blitz.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
If Superman could only use one power at a time then I would agree completely. However, he has an extensive track record of using multiple powers for devastating combo attacks. You mention heat vision attacks like they are insignificant. Just off the top of my head I can think of a couple different strategies that would devastate Hulk under these conditions.
A.) Surgical strike with heat vision and fry the rage center of the Hulk's brain.
B.) Using cold breath to ice the ground an prevent Hulk from maintaining solid footing long enough to send him skyward with and upercut similar to when Nul fought Thor, and then follow with an aerial blitz.

Lol...so current Hulk can withstand attacks that could melt adamantium but heat vision is the be all end all? Hulk can withstand an attack that had enough power to split a planet in half but heat vision is going to play a role in taking Hulk out? Yeah right. We seen what heat vision can do against current Hulk and that's nothing.

Lol...Thor went supe Saiyan to achieve that. Its not easy knocking Hulk upward. The guy is a sponge.

Your arguments isnt so great and COMPLETELY out of character. Show some on panel proof of everything you've said and lets stop debating in fairy tail world.

Originally posted by h1a8
All out Superman is far stronger than Sentry and much more durable.
Sentry had the damage soak going for him.
Superman is much faster and can use his speed more efficiently.
Superman has ranged attacks like HV and the cheap Freeze Breath.
Superman can multitask his powers, like shoot HV, Freeze Breath, and punch at the same time.
Superman beats this version of Sentry easily in a forum fight.

All out Superman is far stronger than Sentry and much more durable.
Superman is arguably at best stronger; no way is he FAR stronger...

Sentry had the damage soak going for him.
And...?

Superman is much faster and can use his speed more efficiently.
I don't believe that for a pica-second

Superman has ranged attacks like HV and the cheap Freeze Breath.
SENTRY has heat vision that KO'd THOR along with ridiculous TK...

Superman can multitask his powers, like shoot HV, Freeze Breath, and punch at the same time.
And...?

Superman beats this version of Sentry easily in a forum fight.
Only in your feeble mind..

Originally posted by Tony Stark
All out Superman is far stronger than Sentry and much more durable.
Superman is arguably at best stronger; no way is he FAR stronger...

Sentry had the damage soak going for him.
And...?

Superman is much faster and can use his speed more efficiently.
I don't believe that for a pica-second

Superman has ranged attacks like HV and the cheap Freeze Breath.
SENTRY has heat vision that KO'd THOR along with ridiculous TK...

Superman can multitask his powers, like shoot HV, Freeze Breath, and punch at the same time.
And...?

Superman beats this version of Sentry easily in a forum fight.
Only in your feeble mind..

This is ALL out Superman and not average Superman. All out Superman has strength feats that are beyond 50 Earth weights of force. So Again he is far stronger than WWH Sentry.

I don't recall Sentry having HV or TK. That's crazy as shit. Do you have any scans or issue numbers?

Sentry can't defend against two attacks launched at him at the same time. He has literally no fighting skills. HV and punches would devastate him. Freeze breath to halt him and punches is unfair.

Superman's speed feats (reactions, movement, etc.) shits on Sentry speed feats. Superman has done shit like talk and walk around casually between nanoseconds. He has reacted to gun shots from another part of the world and traveled to get there before the bullet struck its target. Superman has blitzed characters faster than his HV travels. Superman has reacted and vibrated so fast he became intangible instantly allowing beams of energy to pass through him in defense. Superman has seemingly duplicated himself multiple times where each one was fighting independently.

Superman's speed and his effectiveness with it is on another level when compared to Sentry and most heralds.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so current Hulk can withstand attacks that could melt adamantium but heat vision is the be all end all? Hulk can withstand an attack that had enough power to split a planet in half but heat vision is going to play a role in taking Hulk out? Yeah right. We seen what heat vision can do against current Hulk and that's nothing.

Lol...Thor went supe Saiyan to achieve that. Its not easy knocking Hulk upward. The guy is a sponge.

Your arguments isnt so great and COMPLETELY out of character. Show some on panel proof of everything you've said and lets stop debating in fairy tail world.

I would like to agree, but then we'd both be wrong. First off Superman has HV feats that are much more impressive than melting secondary adamantium, jump starting stars for example. And surviving stelar class explosions, tops surviving a planetary explosion. That being said, if the two were tethered together at the wrist, or fighting in a small enclosure, then I'd agree with you 100%. But in this scenario I have to go with Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so current Hulk can withstand attacks that could melt adamantium but heat vision is the be all end all? Hulk can withstand an attack that had enough power to split a planet in half but heat vision is going to play a role in taking Hulk out? Yeah right. We seen what heat vision can do against current Hulk and that's nothing.

Lol...Thor went supe Saiyan to achieve that. Its not easy knocking Hulk upward. The guy is a sponge.

Your arguments isnt so great and COMPLETELY out of character. Show some on panel proof of everything you've said and lets stop debating in fairy tail world.

I would like to agree, but then we'd both be wrong. First off Superman has HV feats that are much more impressive than melting secondary adamantium, jump starting stars for example. And surviving stelar class explosions, tops surviving a planetary explosion. That being said, if the two were tethered together at the wrist, or fighting in a small enclosure, then I'd agree with you 100%. But in this scenario I have to go with Superman.

PS
Cant believe you got me agreeing with H1. I am now going to slit my own throat Jihad style. May our Alien Overlord Xenu grant you mercy.