Sentry vs Superman

Started by Brockalizer117 pages

I know I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'm actually gonna go with Superman on this one. Admittedly Sentry has an impressive power-set, but we've seen him go all out without Void-ing out before (WWH is the only time I am familiar with so that is the version I will use) and frankly I'm not that impressed. IIRC it was later revealed by Reed Richards that Hulk had reached "World Breaker" level while battling the Sentry. Taking that into consideration, if you want to use something like collateral resulting from an attack as your barometer for shear power, the amped Red She-Hulk in HOTM was much more impressive than the all out Sentry in WWH. Secondly, Superman is a much smarter fighter than Bob is. It wouldn't take much for Superman to throw him off his game. Lastly, as stated before Sentry was only able to stalemate Hulk. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the same version of Hulk would give "normal" Superman a run for his money. A Superman that isn't holding back however, is a much different animal. Not holding back, Superman would wipe his ass with the Hulk that stalemated Sentry.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
I know I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'm actually gonna go with Superman on this one. Admittedly Sentry has an impressive power-set, but we've seen him go all out without Void-ing out before (WWH is the only time I am familiar with so that is the version I will use) and frankly I'm not that impressed. IIRC it was later revealed by Reed Richards that Hulk had reached "World Breaker" level while battling the Sentry. Taking that into consideration, if you want to use something like collateral resulting from an attack as your barometer for shear power, the amped Red She-Hulk in HOTM was much more impressive than the all out Sentry in WWH. Secondly, Superman is a much smarter fighter than Bob is. It wouldn't take much for Superman to throw him off his game. Lastly, as stated before Sentry was only able to stalemate Hulk. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the same version of Hulk would give "normal" Superman a run for his money. A Superman that isn't holding back however, is a much different animal. Not holding back, Superman would wipe his ass with the Hulk that stalemated Sentry.
There's nothing wrong with only being able to match WWH. I can't imagine that being a deciding factor against heralds... At that time he was the most powerful Hulk ever. Even more so than Onslaught Hulk apparently. Like, I don't get that.

Even worse if he did actually reach WBH levels, though I don't recall this ever.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
I know I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'm actually gonna go with Superman on this one. Admittedly Sentry has an impressive power-set, but we've seen him go all out without Void-ing out before (WWH is the only time I am familiar with so that is the version I will use) and frankly I'm not that impressed. IIRC it was later revealed by Reed Richards that Hulk had reached "World Breaker" level while battling the Sentry. Taking that into consideration, if you want to use something like collateral resulting from an attack as your barometer for shear power, the amped Red She-Hulk in HOTM was much more impressive than the all out Sentry in WWH. Secondly, Superman is a much smarter fighter than Bob is. It wouldn't take much for Superman to throw him off his game. Lastly, as stated before Sentry was only able to stalemate Hulk. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the same version of Hulk would give "normal" Superman a run for his money. A Superman that isn't holding back however, is a much different animal. Not holding back, Superman would wipe his ass with the Hulk that stalemated Sentry.

Lol...no he wouldn't.

LoL@Superman wiping his ass with WWHulk.

😂

Superman is going to wipe his ass with World War Hulk? Wow. I think Superman beating World War Hulk is possible. But a normal, every day Superman would get his ass handed to him. Probably along with the entire Justice League because that's how most of these things usually go. He'd have go to his all-out, save the Earth levels. Even then, it's not going to be by just standing there and trading hits with Hulk. He can't afford to fight that recklessly against this incarnation.

Also MM feat isn't available for regular sentry via mod ruling.

Sentry (See Badabing's ruling):

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There have been arguments about Sentry, Void, Siege and Molecule Man. This has been an on again, off again discussion among mods and a few posters.

We think the best way to handle the disagreement is as follows:

Siege Sentry/Void should be a self contained character within the arc for thread purposes. And not applied to anything before Siege.

Sentry and Void feats are not interchangeable, at all.

Siege feats by Sentry and Void should not be applied to anything preceding the arc.

The Molecule Man vs Sentry/Void fight shouldn't be considered a typical or average showing since the power displayed happened only once and therefore isn't verifiable. Also, Owen's erratic past regarding his own mental state should be considered.

It's apparent that Sentry/Void was evolving during Siege by the feats and dialogue. It's also shown that Sentry was "voiding" out even when he still looked like regular Sentry. Given the ambiguity regarding Sentry/Void, we think it's for the best that the character be separated by the Siege arc.

So, to avoid excess flaming and bashing, we would like threads to show either the Siege Sentry/Void or regular Sentry/Void to avoid any problems.

So, that's out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

Superman is going to wipe his ass with World War Hulk? Wow. I think Superman beating World War Hulk is possible. But a normal, every day Superman would get his ass handed to him. Probably along with the entire Justice League because that's how most of these things usually go. He'd have go to his all-out, save the Earth levels. Even then, it's not going to be by just standing there and trading hits with Hulk. He can't afford to fight that recklessly against this incarnation.


This isn't a normal day to day superman either and lulz @ hulk kicking the whole JLA's ass. You are too dazzled by pak's shitty writing at this point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also MM feat isn't available for regular sentry via mod ruling.

So, that's out.

😆 Your so concerned about this that you had to go search for loopholes? Also, did you read the latest Avengers book with the Sentry? Superman aint beating this guy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also MM feat isn't available for regular sentry via mod ruling.

So, that's out.

This is all out Sentry, not regular Sentry.

So it's usable. 👆

Originally posted by tkitna
😆 Your so concerned about this that you had to go search for loopholes? Also, did you read the latest Avengers book with the Sentry? Superman aint beating this guy.

I'm not using any loopholes here. Its been a ruling for years and its stickied here on the first page

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577880.html

This is regular sentry, not death seed amped sentry.

abhi, don't be afraid of Sentry, embrace him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also MM feat isn't available for regular sentry via mod ruling.

So, that's out.

and i bet all out superman will be arbitrarily argued as pre-flashpoint

😂

Kal would get raped here and ends up traumatized hiding under the kitchen table.. just like Hulkie Boy.

Originally posted by abhilegend

This is regular sentry, not death seed amped sentry.

The OP never indicated that. His only stipulation was no Void.

We use the latest versions of each character.

Originally posted by tkitna
The OP never indicated that. His only stipulation was no Void.
Originally posted by carver9
We use the latest versions of each character.

We use the general version of the characters. Wolverine wouldn't be without his HF just because he lost the HF in a particular comic. Death Sentry is an amped sentry by outside forces and he isn't in this thread.

I made thread n It's not current amped deaths Sentry and no Void related fears allowed

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I made thread n It's not current amped deaths Sentry and no Void related fears allowed

Well at least the ground rules are in place 7 pages into the thread. If thats the case, this same thread has been created at least a dozen times before and everybody chooses their favorite character.

I still say the Sentry wins even with the rules in place that handicap him here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We use the general version of the characters. Wolverine wouldn't be without his HF just because he lost the HF in a particular comic. Death Sentry is an amped sentry by outside forces and he isn't in this thread.

Hasent it been standard practice on this forum that we use the latest versions of the characters? At least thats what I always thought in the 9 or 10 years i've been here. I didnt know we got to pick and choose.