Originally posted by tkitna
Pass some of that stuff over here when your done smoking it.Seriously, are you low balling Thor because Sentry toyed with him? Sentry didn't kill Thor because he didn't want to kill Thor. He had plans for him.
There's no way in hell I could ever see Superman doing this to Thor. Ever.
And why not? People much weaker than Superman have oneshotted Thor.
And a random worm owned Sentry like a ***** just after that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I'm saying Sentry's striking power sucks compared to his strength if we believe he was as strong as all of earth's heroes together.And why not? People much weaker than Superman have oneshotted Thor.
And a random worm owned Sentry like a ***** just after that.
Don't know why you'd make such a comment like that.
It's pretty clear to everyone on this forum that at that point in Uncanny Avengers Sentry was going to kill Thor. So Remender pulled out a plot saving device known as a worm of Harkep which removes Sentry from the battle. If the worm hadn't been there Sentry would've killed everyone on Earth and Eimin and Uriel would have Planet X for eternity.
It's clear to me it was to further the story. Not an actual display of power.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Don't know why you'd make such a comment like that.It's pretty clear to everyone on this forum that at that point in Uncanny Avengers Sentry was going to kill Thor. So Remender pulled out a plot saving device known as a worm of Harkep which removes Sentry from the battle. If the worm hadn't been there Sentry would've killed everyone on Earth and Eimin and Uriel would have Planet X for eternity.
It's clear to me it was to further the story. Not an actual display of power.
I think you exagerrate, but it's more than safe to say Remender Sentry was very powerful and had Thor beat.
There's no point in putting down the worm or calling that a cop-out though, because that's what Remender intended. If he wanted to then he could've had Wasp cheap-shot him or simply not establish him as being -that- powerful.
Uncanny Avengers was probably the most unambigiously powerful we've seen the Sentry outside his own book, and it's the only non-void win against a high herald that I can think of. Simply put, it's a hell of a showing and no reason to complain or low-ball.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I think you exagerrate, but it's more than safe to say Remender Sentry was very powerful and had Thor beat.There's no point in putting down the worm or calling that a cop-out though, because that's what Remender intended. If he wanted to then he could've had Wasp cheap-shot him or simply not establish him as being -that- powerful.
Uncanny Avengers was probably the most unambigiously powerful we've seen the Sentry outside his own book, and it's the only non-void win against a high herald that I can think of. Simply put, it's a hell of a showing and no reason to complain or low-ball.
Sure, I guess what I meant was the whole story is based on the Unity Squad being pushed too their limits and overcoming things at the last second. If you remember Sentry said "the Ancient Mariner paid repentance for his crimes, you will not" he then got his tentacles out or tendrils and was about to kill him. I only really meant if that worm wasn't there what I described would have happened. Sure Remender could have had Wasp deliver a right hook to the chin and KO Robert. But to be honest I think he would get too much s**t from people that it wouldn't be worth it.
Sure it is a very good showing, we are now seeing Robert without Agoraphobia. He is no longer scared of showing his power.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Sure, I guess what I meant was the whole story is based on the Unity Squad being pushed too their limits and overcoming things at the last second. If you remember Sentry said "the Ancient Mariner paid repentance for his crimes, you will not" he then got his tentacles out or tendrils and was about to kill him. I only really meant if that worm wasn't there what I described would have happened. Sure Remender could have had Wasp deliver a right hook to the chin and KO Robert. But to be honest I think he would get too much s**t from people that it wouldn't be worth it.Sure it is a very good showing, we are now seeing Robert without Agoraphobia. He is no longer scared of showing his power.
My point was that there's no reason to speculate about higher feats, and what Sentry would've done if the worm hadn't stopped him. The same writer who gave Sentry his first solid non-void feat is also the one who had the worm stop him a few panels later.
Saying that Sentry was going to go to earth and that he could've done this and that just feels like an attempt to add more onto his already decent feat. It feels like ingratitude almost.
And obviously he couldn't have just killed earth. Far more powerful people have tried, and Reed Richards has stopped them all 🙂
Originally posted by krisblaze
My point was that there's no reason to speculate about higher feats, and what Sentry would've done if the worm hadn't stopped him.
Ah okay then, guess I agree with that.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Saying that Sentry was going to go to earth and that he could've done this and that just feels like an attempt to add more onto his already decent feat. It feels like ingratitude almost.
I only said that as at that point Sentry had seemingly become Apocalypse, and said he wouldn't allow humanity to suffer these mutant threats. And if we remember he also said that in his first fight with Thor that he wanted to protect humanity from cosmic manipulators and gods like Thor. It was assumption on my part I fully admit, I was going on the basis that he would've seen what was happening with Exitar, perhaps done something akin to UA #21 then purge mutants on Earth. I will admit though it was heavily based on speculation and probably shouldn't be taken as fact.
Originally posted by krisblaze
No worries, I just misread your intentions a bit 🙂It would be awesome if Sentry became the new Apocalypse.
Yeah it would be good, that's what I am hoping will happen while he is on his journey through space, and as he is a hero he just become like a Watcher but basically an interventionist one. Saving humanity when it needs to be saved.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I am glad that the people here start using Death Sentry, amped by the death seed, against Superman, this makes the fight more even 👆
How amped do you really think he was? He doesn't even have Agoraphobia so you're seeing a Sentry not scared of showing his full power. As Sentry has said the Death Seed replaced the Void which gave him the clear vision of protecting humans.
You can't even say he was amped by it to be honest as what I said above stands.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
How amped do you really think he was? He doesn't even have Agoraphobia so you're seeing a Sentry not scared of showing his full power. As Sentry has said the Death Seed replaced the Void which gave him the clear vision of protecting humans.You can't even say he was amped by it to be honest as what I said above stands.
He has the deah seed and that is a fact, it always empowered it's users, acting like it adds nothing is illogical, honestly...
Further the deaths seed was made by the celestials, their tech was always superior and enhanced beings beyond their normal limits.
Before the DS Sentry faced Thor and Thor had sometimes even the upper hand, this is now not the case.
If you want to believe it adds nothing, more power to you, I will use your argument in with things like the PG, it adds nothing too, when I see Drax fighting and losing, or Thor being catched in a Force Field....
My point stands, glad we used and amped Sentry, it makes more sense. 👆
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
He has the deah seed and that is a fact, it always empowered it's users, acting like it adds nothing is illogical, honestly...
Further the deaths seed was made by the celestials, their tech was always superior and enhanced beings beyond their normal limits.Before the DS Sentry faced Thor and Thor had sometimes even the upper hand, this is now not the case.
If you want to believe it adds nothing, more power to you, I will use your argument in with things like the PG, it adds nothing too, when I see Drax fighting and losing, or Thor being catched in a Force Field....
My point stands, glad we used and amped Sentry, it makes more sense. 👆
I didn't say it added nothing, what I will add is I am more speculative of how much it did add. I don't know why you're ignoring my point about him not having Agoraphobia which is much obviously proof he is not afraid.
As far as I know Thor has never had the upper hand against Sentry, unless you're talking about the time when Thor broke his neck which isn't even canon.
You can use them arguments if you want. It's not me who is going to be questioned by other users why you are doing so. I never said anything of the sought. You just cherry pick words in my reply to further your argument. Sentry wouldn't even need the DS to beat Superman.
As much as that hurts for you to hear it's the truth.