Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I didn't say it added nothing, what I will add is I am more speculative of how much it did add. I don't know why you're ignoring my point about him not having Agoraphobia which is much obviously proof he is not afraid.As far as I know Thor has never had the upper hand against Sentry, unless you're talking about the time when Thor broke his neck which isn't even canon.
You can use them arguments if you want. It's not me who is going to be questioned by other users why you are doing so. I never said anything of the sought. You just cherry pick words in my reply to further your argument. Sentry wouldn't even need the DS to beat Superman.
As much as that hurts for you to hear it's the truth.
I don't ignore it, it is not relevant to the fact that he was amped by the DS.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31514/565189-thorvsinitiative01siege1_super.jpg
One shot, bfred maybe even koed Sentry here. We don't see him for a bit.
Oh, glad you agree now that he is amped by the seed. 👆
You are not good at this "being personal" stuff and it is unnecessary. You disagree fine, don't be offended by people who have a different opinion. 😉
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Normal Sentry at the end of Dark Avengers > Molecule Man.Molecule Man > Superman, Flash, WW, Darkseid, ect.
Seriously this is not a debate.
This is ABC logic and there was some context there.
Seriously this is not a debate.
Sentry vs Superman or DS vs current Superman is though. 👆
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I don't ignore it, it is not relevant to the fact that he was amped by the DS.http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31514/565189-thorvsinitiative01siege1_super.jpg
One shot, bfred maybe even koed Sentry here. We don't see him for a bit.Oh, glad you agree now that he is amped by the seed. 👆
You are not good at this "being personal" stuff and it is unnecessary. You disagree fine, don't be offended by people who have a different opinion. 😉
This is ABC logic and there was some context there.
Seriously this is not a debate.
Sentry vs Superman or DS vs current Superman is though. 👆
Again you are cherrypicking. Allow me to correct you.
I said I was speculative, implying that the DS took place of the Void. He wasn't amped you are seeing Robert with control. So you can move on now and try to formulate another argument.
You even use maybe in your argument and we don't see otherwise whether he was KO'd so you can't prove that. Care to post the whole fight for everyone to see?
Believe me I am not offended by you being wrong, I am just on a forum debating a comic character so I am defending him. I'm not offended at all. You're not that bad.
Again Sentry wouldn't even need to be stable to beat Superman. We have examples of Sentry's power in the Genis-Vell fight or even the Terrax one among many other feats I could show. He has also defeated the Void by himself. Superman I am afraid to tell you is not in Sentry's league.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Again you are cherrypicking. Allow me to correct you.I said I was speculative, implying that the DS took place of the Void. He wasn't amped you are seeing Robert with control. So you can move on now and try to formulate another argument.
You even use maybe in your argument and we don't see otherwise whether he was KO'd so you can't prove that. Care to post the whole fight for everyone to see?
Believe me I am not offended by you being wrong, I am just on a forum debating a comic character so I am defending him. I'm not offended at all. You're not that bad.
Again Sentry wouldn't even need to be stable to beat Superman. We have examples of Sentry's power in the Genis-Vell fight or even the Terrax one among many other feats I could show. He has also defeated the Void by himself. Superman I am afraid to tell you is not in Sentry's league.
Ok, this is now a double standard, as you cherrypick yourself.
We see how Sentry did against Thor before, WWH, Hercules, Red Hulk and now we see him being able to give 50% of what Rogue did, and she had the powers of all heroes. Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively.
You should know the fight. The portrayals against heroes stand and there he wasn't superior, sometimes he even lost.
I believe you are offended by being wrong. See this is the problem, you believe you are right, that's ok, but don't act like your opinion is a fact or that all others are wrong, when you can't prove it. Accept that opinions can differ.
You are not bad either.
We have examples against Darkseid and ripping DD in half. Works both ways.
Superman is on this boards in the HH tier,The Sentry is in the mid Herald tier 👆 You are right Superman is not in sentrys league, he is above him, so good he has this DS amp now 😉.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok, this is now a double standard, as you cherrypick yourself.We see how Sentry did against Thor before, WWH, Hercules, Red Hulk and now we see him being able to give 50% of what Rogue did, and she had the powers of all heroes. Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively.
You should know the fight. The portrayals against heroes stand and there he wasn't superior, sometimes he even lost.
I believe you are offended by being wrong. See this is the problem, you believe you are right, that's ok, but don't act like your opinion is a fact or that all others are wrong, when you can't prove it. Accept that opinions can differ.
You are not bad either.We have examples against Darkseid and ripping DD in half. Works both ways.
Superman is on this boards in the HH tier,The Sentry is in the mid Herald tier 👆 You are right Superman is not in sentrys league, he is above him, so good he has this DS amp now 😉.
I don't even know how to respond to that I mean Sentry mid herald? That's just madness. As you seemingly hate Sentry you can't seem to provide a reasonable argument against him except from twisting fights to fit your conclusion.
Saying,
"Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively."
You can't even prove it.
So basically you have called me out on everything I have said but you make laughable claims in response without evidence.
It must be bad for you to know that Sentry is a tier above Supes. And because your poster boy hero is being threatened you are trying to make theory after theory to lowball Sentry.
Come back tot his thread when you have an actual argument not backed by twisting scans or your love of Superman.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok, this is now a double standard, as you cherrypick yourself.We see how Sentry did against Thor before, WWH, Hercules, Red Hulk and now we see him being able to give 50% of what Rogue did, and she had the powers of all heroes. Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively.
You should know the fight. The portrayals against heroes stand and there he wasn't superior, sometimes he even lost.
I believe you are offended by being wrong. See this is the problem, you believe you are right, that's ok, but don't act like your opinion is a fact or that all others are wrong, when you can't prove it. Accept that opinions can differ.
You are not bad either.We have examples against Darkseid and ripping DD in half. Works both ways.
Superman is on this boards in the HH tier,The Sentry is in the mid Herald tier 👆 You are right Superman is not in sentrys league, he is above him, so good he has this DS amp now 😉.
Oh look Batman is a High Herald now, Superman must be Low Herald with that showing. See I can cherrypick and lowball too.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆 At least you admit it now.BTW, check the tier list on this board. Sentry is MH.
Yes as if you failed to notice I done it deliberately to prove how stupid your argument was/is since it isn't actually an argument.
I showed you how easy I can do the same thing to act as if Batman is HH but obviously you didn't see it was a joke.
Also here is the MH list, seems like you're lying again. Sentry isn't even on the whole tier list at all.
You're the only person on this board who thinks Sentry should be Mid Herald. That is just pure nonsense.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
This is ABC logic and there was some context there.Seriously this is not a debate.
Sentry vs Superman or DS vs current Superman is though. 👆
Yes I did use very basic ABC logic. However it frankly works well here. Molecule Man and Sentry have the same powers, only Sentry was the better at Molecule Manipulation.
Fact is Molecule Man manipulation ability and feats trump all I listed. Fact Sentry is even better or on par is simple logic he will trump with same power set.
ABC logic is not flawed when applied right. In this case there is no debate.
Sentry cannot be physically harm post his learning how to use his full abilities. Superman has no way to win. However Sentry can beat Superman via Molecule Manipulation. Super cannot win, but Sentry can.
There is no debate here. Unless its simple ignorance debating.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Yes I did use very basic ABC logic. However it frankly works well here. Molecule Man and Sentry have the same powers, only Sentry was the better at Molecule Manipulation.Fact is Molecule Man manipulation ability and feats trump all I listed. Fact Sentry is even better or on par is simple logic he will trump with same power set.
ABC logic is not flawed when applied right. In this case there is no debate.
Sentry cannot be physically harm post his learning how to use his full abilities. Superman has no way to win. However Sentry can beat Superman via Molecule Manipulation. Super cannot win, but Sentry can.
There is no debate here. Unless its simple ignorance debating.
His intention is just to be a troll, nothing more. Just arguing for the sake of it.
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Yes I did use very basic ABC logic. However it frankly works well here. Molecule Man and Sentry have the same powers, only Sentry was the better at Molecule Manipulation.Fact is Molecule Man manipulation ability and feats trump all I listed. Fact Sentry is even better or on par is simple logic he will trump with same power set.
ABC logic is not flawed when applied right. In this case there is no debate.
Sentry cannot be physically harm post his learning how to use his full abilities. Superman has no way to win. However Sentry can beat Superman via Molecule Manipulation. Super cannot win, but Sentry can.
There is no debate here. Unless its simple ignorance debating.
This is a case where ABC logic is very flawed 🙂
Sentry has been harmed many times, he regenerates. This is not the same.
We do not simply go nuts with the no limits fallacy simply because the Sentry's come back from having Thor put him in the sun or bash his brains.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok, this is now a double standard, as you cherrypick yourself.We see how Sentry did against Thor before, WWH, Hercules, Red Hulk and now we see him being able to give 50% of what Rogue did, and she had the powers of all heroes. Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively.
You should know the fight. The portrayals against heroes stand and there he wasn't superior, sometimes he even lost.
I believe you are offended by being wrong. See this is the problem, you believe you are right, that's ok, but don't act like your opinion is a fact or that all others are wrong, when you can't prove it. Accept that opinions can differ.
You are not bad either.We have examples against Darkseid and ripping DD in half. Works both ways.
Superman is on this boards in the HH tier,The Sentry is in the mid Herald tier 👆 You are right Superman is not in sentrys league, he is above him, so good he has this DS amp now 😉.
😆
I can't wait until my comic viewer is back up so that I can post these comics.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yes as if you failed to notice I done it deliberately to prove how stupid your argument was/is since it isn't actually an argument.I showed you how easy I can do the same thing to act as if Batman is HH but obviously you didn't see it was a joke.
Also here is the MH list, seems like you're lying again. Sentry isn't even on the whole tier list at all.
You're the only person on this board who thinks Sentry should be Mid Herald. That is just pure nonsense.
You should take a honest look at your arguments if you want to read something really stupid 😉.
You failed, reading and understanding my text and making a joke :/.
Where did I lie pls? The only liar I know on those boards is Quan but well, you should take a look again, you missed something, it seems to be something you do quite often it seems. But before saying very stupid things and accusing others, take more time, it makes you look smarter 😉.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
You should take a honest look at your arguments if you want to read something really stupid 😉.You failed, reading and understanding my text and making a joke :/.
Where did I lie pls? The only liar I know on those boards is Quan but well, you should take a look again, you missed something, it seems to be something you do quite often it seems. But before saying very stupid things and accusing others, take more time, it makes you look smarter 😉.
No worries there. Your fabrications kept me laughing. I can make good arguments based on evidence. You pale incredibly.
You said this.
"Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively."
I'm still waiting for proof yet. Although I have an odd feeling you wont find any.
No it makes me look right because I am, it makes you look disingenuous but that was already a given.
Come back when you don't have a hard on for DC and hate Marvel you aren't debating in a fair manner. And it is detrimental to this forum. That's why Cosmic_Beings and Xplosive were banned.
You are behaving exactly like they did. And it's a shame because you ruin it for actual people who want to debate.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeHere a bit bigger.
Ah so you're using a list that no mod has approved, just made by some random guy. You use it as it helps your argument, if he said Sentry was HH I bet any money you wouldn't have pasted that in.
If you want I'll message Bada, PR and Newjak and we can show them this thread and see what they think about your "ideas".
Just get over it.
^Do yourself a favour, take the time going through the tier thread and educate yourself, i am tired of proving you wrong. Digis list was updated and handled by others and Sentry found his place in the MH tier later on by others as well. This was the general consens. You said "You're the only person on this board who thinks Sentry should be Mid Herald. That is just pure nonsense."
I proved you that I told you the truth and I showed you that there are more people who place him there, get over it.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
No worries there. Your fabrications kept me laughing. I can make good arguments based on evidence. You pale incredibly.You said this.
"Maybe it was because of the celestial DS being a celestial tech that works good against them or because it amped him so much but if you compare his showings against chars he faced before you see he was amped, massively."
I'm still waiting for proof yet. Although I have an odd feeling you wont find any.
No it makes me look right because I am, it makes you look disingenuous but that was already a given.
Come back when you don't have a hard on for DC and hate Marvel you aren't debating in a fair manner. And it is detrimental to this forum. That's why Cosmic_Beings and Xplosive were banned.
You are behaving exactly like they did. And it's a shame because you ruin it for actual people who want to debate.
My proof is in the comics, compare how he did against Thor and other Heralds before and how he did as DS. If you don't want to see it as an amp, more power to you, imo that is just plain stupid.
You didn't take you time to go through the Tier thread and now you cry, kk. The list was updated and no one ever complained, this was even integrated, by others, into digis list later on. I said that on this board he is in the MH tier according to the list, which he is, nothing disingenuous only you being angry and trying to insult others. Which is sad.
I hate Marvel and have a hard on DC because I stated the truth and showed you things you overlooked? Hypocrit.
You don't want to debate, you want people to agree with you that Sentry wins.
This is indeed a waste of my time. No offense but heed your own advices in future, thanks.
