Sad sad.
'tis may be old to some of y'all, but Capcom apparently already has voting going on on their forums regarding the rest of the DLC characters. That's the only "fan demand" this game has really, four remaining slots waiting to be filled, most of which will probably be crap characters anyway based on what I've seen in the polls.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/02/frank-west-marvel-vs-capcom-3-slip-or-misinformed/
That means either...
1. They realized that they messed up and Frank isn't in...
OR.....
2. Capcom found it, made them change it, and Frank is in the game
I really hope it's number 2 because I'll be very irritated if he got cut and it took Capcom so long to say so considering his silhouette has been around since this game was announced. If he's out then they should have just said so earlier. They had no problem saying Human Torch got cut or disconfirming other popular characters like Gambit, Ghost Rider, and Phoenix Wright, but whenever asked about Frank they just say "wait and see" and "don't assume." What makes his situatation any different than the others? What they are doing is a giant tease and if Capcom is not prepared to put out than they shouldn't be surprised when the fanboys decide to rape them over it.
His silhouette is still being shown in character wheels(IE She-Hulk and Viper's) and it even appears ON THE CE COVER. If he's not in then they could easily taken the silhouette out or avoid showing it. I'm having trouble believing that Frank's zombies are a RAM issue, considering Tron summons a whole bunch of Servbots for her lunch rush hyper.
I'm also having trouble believing that they'll put two MM characters, but not the blue bomber himself. That's like putting Zelda and Ganondorf in a SSB game, but no Link. What the twitter guy said about him makes no sense. He offers nothing unique, but yet somehow Akuma does? And Arthur replaces him? We can get two guys with the same fighting style, who throw fireballs, do dragon-ish punches and tornado kicks, but we can't get MM and Arthur?(who fights nothing like MM in MVC) I don't recall MM having breakable armor, throwing daggers, and upgrade hypers.
Originally posted by KCJ506
That means either...1. They realized that they messed up and Frank isn't in...
OR.....
2. Capcom found it, made them change it, and Frank is in the gameI really hope it's number 2 because I'll be very irritated if he got cut and it took Capcom so long to say so considering his silhouette has been around since this game was announced. If he's out then they should have just said so earlier. They had no problem saying Human Torch got cut or disconfirming other popular characters like Gambit, Ghost Rider, and Phoenix Wright, but whenever asked about Frank they just say "wait and see" and "don't assume." What makes his situatation any different than the others? What they are doing is a giant tease and if Capcom is not prepared to put out than they shouldn't be surprised when the fanboys decide to rape them over it.
His silhouette is still being shown in character wheels(IE She-Hulk and Viper's) and it even appears ON THE CE COVER. If he's not in then they could easily taken the silhouette out or avoid showing it. I'm having trouble believing that Frank's zombies are a RAM issue, considering Tron summons a whole bunch of Servbots for her lunch rush hyper.
I'm also having trouble believing that they'll put two MM characters, but not the blue bomber himself. That's like putting Zelda and Ganondorf in a SSB game, but no Link. What the twitter guy said about him makes no sense. He offers nothing unique, but yet somehow Akuma does? And Arthur replaces him? We can get two guys with the same fighting style, who throw fireballs, do dragon-ish punches and tornado kicks, but we can't get MM and Arthur?(who fights nothing like MM in MVC) I don't recall MM having breakable armor, throwing daggers, and upgrade hypers.
Originally posted by General_Iroh
From stuff I've read, from what I consider a legitimate source anyway they said that the difference was that Frank was supposed to be in the game. Like they made his character, from what I understand he was Jill Valentine like from MVC2 and he could send out zombies for his attacks. But when they tried online gameplay with him he caused too much lag, and because of that he was left out. This made the teams uneven, which is why Shuma Gorath is now DLC and would explain why Jill Valentine is now in DLC as well.
I knew about that but if that's true, it still doesn't explain why Capcom won't just say he's not in instead of just stringing the hopeful along. That would be a bad move on their part.
If there was in fact a RAM issue why couldn't they just remove the zombies? Is it really necessary for Frank to be a zombie summoner?
Originally posted by KCJ506
I knew about that but if that's true, it still doesn't explain why Capcom won't just say he's not in instead of just stringing the hopeful along. That would be a bad move on their part.If there was in fact a RAM issue why couldn't they just remove the zombies? Is it really necessary for Frank to be a zombie summoner?
It's just like what Zero Punctuation said during their review of Resident Evil 5, "Capcom aren't evil people, they're just idiots."
I wonder this myself. Frank West really doesn't have to conjure zombies for that really isn't his thing and it amuses me that even though they had no problem throwing him in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, they do in MvC3.
Originally posted by KCJ506
That statement about Marvel having characters that were out from the beginning, I think they meant only characters from their side, not MH characters.
I Bleave Rey or Seth also posted that on their own forums N response 2 questions about MH and BOF characters. I think they have control over who goes N the games, period. On both sides, altho they seem 2 have more power over their own sides a bit more.
Wasn't it Capcom who stated that they didn't want all the Fantastic 4 N the game?
Originally posted by Nemesis X
but I think the terms of service are telling me that as soon as I become a member, I've already bought stuff and have to pay for it.
That's not true.
Most crossover fighting games that I'm aware of usually have both companies discussing on what characters to add for their roster, not one. Capcom and Marvel should have picked out their characters together so that things can be a little bit more balanced and not leave one side in a rather poor condition (Capcom's) while the other is a major power house.
Originally posted by Frisky DingoThat's not true.
Then why did it keep bringing up credit cards?
they've been publicly play-testing it since it was announced.. so I'd kinda hope it was balanced 🙁 we could hope I suppose
However, I think no matter what they do, keeping the marvel characters true to themselves yet tone them down to fight capcom characters is a pretty difficult task..(aside from a few DS characters (i.e. NOT felicia 😘))
There was hardly a reason to pick capcom characters in mvc2, so it wouldnt surprise me if this were the case in 3...factor in the DLC characters and balance yet again becomes an issue
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Capcom's list is polluted with too many SF characters. All they needed was Ryu (with an alt costume of Ken and Akuma.) and Chun Li for girls. That's it.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Capcom's list is polluted with too many SF characters. All they needed was Ryu (with an alt costume of Ken and Akuma.) and Chun Li for girls. That's it.
I think you're exaggerating a bit there. Having three(most likely four) SF characters is not too many. We have four X-men reps and considering the fact that SF is the leading fighting game of the genre, and the fact that MVC is a fighting game series, SF having the most reps of all Capcom franchises is very possible.
MVC1 and TVC both had three SF reps and this roster is bigger than both of those.
If we were to have more than five reps, then I would agree with you.
Originally posted by KCJ506
I think you're exaggerating a bit there. Having three(most likely four) SF characters is not too many. We have four X-men reps and considering the fact that SF is the leading fighting game of the genre, and the fact that MVC is a fighting game series, SF having the most reps of all Capcom franchises is very possible.MVC1 and TVC both had three SF reps and this roster is bigger than both of those.
If we were to have more than five reps, then I would agree with you.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like the number of X-Men either.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
You don't really care about the absence of Frank, do you?
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Alright, you know what? **** the idea. I was just trying to to think of something since Albert's the only one in the roster that's pushing up daisies but seeing how it wouldn't make any sense for Doom to be wanting to bring him back at all while he can just recruit other villains like Demitri or Dr. Wily. I guess since MvC IS seperated from RE5, the alternate Wesker should not be ressurected for he shouldn't be dead in the first place at all and why to think of such craziness is beyond me. This is probably due to boredom and so I think of random ideas for this game before it comes out and see if my guesses are right.
Wesker doesn't need a hand from the others to come back or to be pulled out of the pits of hell anyway though; he has Uroboros!
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
they've been publicly play-testing it since it was announced.. so I'd kinda hope it was balanced 🙁 we could hope I supposeHowever, I think no matter what they do, keeping the marvel characters true to themselves yet tone them down to fight capcom characters is a pretty difficult task..(aside from a few DS characters (i.e. NOT felicia 😘))
Originally posted by General_Iroh
Well avengers is a crossover so it's hard to say they have the most characters, and some x-men characters crossover quite a bit as well i.e. deadpool 😬
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
There was hardly a reason to pick capcom characters in mvc2, so it wouldnt surprise me if this were the case in 3...factor in the DLC characters and balance yet again becomes an issue
OMG, bingo! I liked alotta characters on Cap's side but just couldn't win. Imagine if they didn't tone down Thanos and Dr.Doom for MVC2 ('bout the only balance change they did for that game)? And
I don't like the idea of characters as DLC at all.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Capcom's list is polluted with too many SF characters. All they needed was Ryu (with an alt costume of Ken and Akuma.) and Chun Li for girls. That's it.
Awful-awful idea, pal. Glad your not in charge.