Lugia and Ho-Oh vs. Chaos Vincent and Sephiroth

Started by MooCowofJustice5 pages

Yeah, none of you should be talking about double standards.

Omnislash is spiritual? Cool, because Pokemon have non-physical attacks.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Watch the scene, we see fire, and ice,
moving as fast as lightning, isn't that nice?
Anime physics don't care about substance.
And lugia dodged them, isn't that something?
Here's the deal. Lightning is lightning, now promptly get real. 😐
Still much faster than bullets, no matter what you say.
and that means Lugia's reactions are better today.

Vincent and Sephiroth lack strength feats sufficient,
to harm a bird so incredibly and thoroughly proficient,
at soaking damage the way you'll see,
if you ever watch that movie.

And then we see that natural lightning in the anime like in the first ep is at normal lightning speed. So attacks in the anime arnt at real lightning speed. Dodging pokemon electric attacks ≠ dodging lightning.
When could the birds resist a sword to the head?

Zapdos in the pokedex is specificly stated to create lightning.
Lugia dodged that lightning, it's the pokedex you're fighting.

No its the anime im on about.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Omnislash is spiritual? Cool, because Pokemon have non-physical attacks.
Lugia and Ho-oh not being among them.

Anime is not canon to the games.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lugia and Ho-oh not being among them.

Anime is not canon to the games.

Except for Yellow version.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lugia and Ho-oh not being among them.

Anime is not canon to the games.

But outside the anime dodging electricity is basically in both games.

Sephiroth breaks Ho-Oh's bones with TK and slices Lugia's body with sword waves. The end.

And no, Lugia has no telekinesis since it has to learn Psychic (should be called Psychokinesis like Swift should be called Speedstar) from a TM.

Pretty much anything not declared a Physical attack means it works off of Special Attack, making it non-physical. Should be close enough to spiritual.

I know some people have made an argument about it already but I would just like to say that Vincent in his highly overrated(and awesome) Chaos form is pretty much the "bane of life". Wouldn't that give it at least some credibility over Lugia and Ho-oh?

Even if the two legendary birds do win the whole planet they're on will still blow up......that is if Sephiroth has the time to cast meteor and they give it about a couple of weeks to get to the planet.(joking)

FF pplz dodge lightning fairly easily. (t3h SOLDIERs I mean)

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Sephiroth breaks Ho-Oh's bones with TK and slices Lugia's body with sword waves. The end.

And no, Lugia has no telekinesis since it has to learn Psychic (should be called Psychokinesis like Swift should be called Speedstar) from a TM.

Oh look, once again claims with no evidence, now that I don't have to rhyme allow me to enlighten you.

Lugia's wings are strong enough to cause 40 day storms, he can dodge Zapdos' lightning, Zapdos is stated to create lightning, in the pokedex. Lugia can tank a simultaneous hit from Articuno, Moltres, and Zapdos.

Sephiroth has no means to harm, catch, or survive against Lugia alone. 😐 Ho-Oh adds some srs spitiness to this thread.

Lugia's wings are strong enough to cause 40 day storms,

Becuase he has super powers, specifically to do with the ability to control the weather and the sea. The most he can do wing-wise is destroy houses, which both of team 2 can tank.

he can dodge Zapdos' lightning, Zapdos is stated to create lightning, in the pokedex.

Again, anime physics make this not too impressive. Just becuase something is referred to as something from our world, doesn't mean it has the exact same characteristics.

Lugia can tank a simultaneous hit from Articuno, Moltres, and Zapdos.

Sephiroth and Chaos can dish out more damage than those attacks. And you'll notice that the three overwhelm him at various points (and knock him out in another). All they need to do is make him faint anyway.

Becuase he has super powers, specifically to do with the ability to control the weather and the sea. The most he can do wing-wise is destroy houses, which both of team 2 can tank.

Vids?
Again, anime physics make this not too impressive. Just becuase something is referred to as something from our world, doesn't mean it has the exact same characteristics.
This could easily be applied to Sephiroth and Vincent. Anime physics, unimpressiv,e bullets in fiction =/= bullets IRL, ect.

Sephiroth and Chaos can dish out more damage than those attacks. And you'll notice that the three overwhelm him at various points (and knock him out in another). All they need to do is make him faint anyway.
Lolno. No feats suggest this. Any one of those birds is superior to Seph and vincent. Vincent's best feat is a light show that did no damage to the random people nearby, or the city of Midgar. Sephiroth can cut through steel, small time.

Lugia took a hit from all three at once, got back up.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Vids?
This could easily be applied to Sephiroth and Vincent. Anime physics, unimpressiv,e bullets in fiction =/= bullets IRL, ect.

Lolno. No feats suggest this. Any one of those birds is superior to Seph and vincent. Vincent's best feat is a light show that did no damage to the random people nearby, or the city of Midgar. Sephiroth can cut through steel, small time.

Lugia took a hit from all three at once, got back up.

Nintendo wank.

Sephiroth easily cut through steel with one handed strokes from his 10ft sword. He took fire magic without any damage. Lugia tooks hits and shown that it took pain. Hell, an airship was giving it trouble.

Chaos Vincent destroyed a monster that could wipe out all life on the planet.

You say my previous post has no evidence but the videos I posted prove otherwise. Chaos Vincent made a light show? I guaranteed if that was a Nintendo character doing that, you'd over here claiming how that would beat any Final Fantasy characters and Dante. If there's someone with no evidence that would be you.

Nintendo wank.
Irony.

Sephiroth easily cut through steel with one handed strokes from his 10ft sword. He took fire magic without any damage. Lugia tooks hits and shown that it took pain. Hell, an airship was giving it trouble.
did you seriously just compare Firage with Moltres' flames? You joking? Moltres would vapourise Sephiroth.

You say my previous post has no evidence but the videos I posted prove otherwise. Chaos Vincent made a light show? I guaranteed if that was a Nintendo character doing that, you'd over here claiming how that would beat any Final Fantasy characters and Dante. If there's someone with no evidence that would be you.
I had a laugh, no. I'd use actually destructive feats. That isn't one. All it was, was a light show. See those random people hanging aroudn nearby? None of them died, Midgar was fine, everything was fine. It's a non-feat, nothing was destroyed. You can stop wanking FF any time now.

But really, they cant touch Vincent at the speed he went at. Then theres TK and sword damage to worry about.

May of been a lightshow (?cant recall) but there had to be an immense force and power to make a lightshow on that scale. Whatever red charge he did would have drastic effects on the birds.

Well, that might be so, if it weren't for the energy all being used up in the light show. 😛 That's sorta what I'm getting at, though.

All the normal bystanders, the city, nothing was damaged 😐 Whatever happened, while pretty kool looking, wasn't destructive.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Irony.

I at least post videos proving my points.


did you seriously just compare Firage with Moltres' flames? You joking? Moltres would vapourise Sephiroth.

No proof that Moltres is better than Firaga. The bird had trouble fighting an airship. Sephiroth would have destroyed that thing easily and easily beat all three legendary birds. Pokemon wank!


I had a laugh, no. I'd use actually destructive feats. That isn't one. All it was, was a light show. See those random people hanging aroudn nearby? None of them died, Midgar was fine, everything was fine. It's a non-feat, nothing was destroyed. You can stop wanking FF any time now.

Omega Weapon was destroyed and it was something the rest of the FF7 cast couldn't put down.

I at least post videos proving my points.
So do I, and I did in this exact thread.
No proof that Moltres is better than Firaga. The bird had trouble fighting an airship. Sephiroth would have destroyed that thing easily and easily beat all three legendary birds. Pokemon wank!

Moltres' fire is hot enough to damage pokemon who are unharmed by lava. That's a feat. It's hot enough to instantly vapourise ice created by Articuno's icebeam, which if you watched that video, can instantly freeze a giant cyclonic pillar of water in motion. That's a feat on par or above Samus' ice beam. 😐 Did I mention Lugia tanked that, at the same time as Moltres flames and Zapdos lightning?
Omega Weapon was destroyed and it was something the rest of the FF7 cast couldn't put down.
Got any durability feats? The FF7 cast isn't exactly high on offensive power. 😬