Batman (Nolan franchise) Versus Big Daddy (Kick-Ass)

Started by NemeBro4 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So is he, in your opinion, a better than average marksman?
He sniped that gai pretty quickly and easily, Hit Girl remarking it was a good shot.

Also, would totally give Hit Girl the win over Batman too. 😐

With all due respect and no DISRESPECT to RJ AT ALL, but he is just pretending to weigh up the combatants.

He decides Batman loses before he enters half the threads he's involved in. He hates Batman, always has.

You're talking to a man who, himself, thinks he could beat/kill Batman. He's specifically said this.

-AC

Hit Girl over Batman? Man I gotta see Kick ass.

Now, he's gonna see it and I guarantee, he'll agree with you.

Fact. He's going to probably come away saying that the credits could beat Batman.

Again, I mean utterly and honestly NO offense to the man AT ALL. Straight up. That's what he's going to do, though. He looks for any excuse to put people over Batman.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How good of a shot is Big Daddy?
He's the Punisher except he has very impressive body armor(fully bullet proof), and moves with speed similar to that of the Watchmen characters.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's the Punisher except he has very impressive body armor(fully bullet proof), and moves with speed similar to that of the Watchmen characters.
If this post is accurate, then he pwns Batman 10/10.

The scene I'm referring looks like the film Wanted when Wesley goes on a killing spree.

Batman won't be able to stop him. He's dead.

He was shot in the chest and shoulder, just happened to be where the heaviest bits of armor were. Considering his face and eyes are exposed, he certainly isn't "fully" bulletproof.

Watchmen crew weren't that fast in fighting, Veidt catching a bullet withstanding.

One thing of mention, Batman has taken out several armed goons himself; he did so without the use of lethal weapons. IMO, it's harder to face a gunman with batarangs and fist, than it is to face one with [superior] body-armor, knives and guns. Batman also has jumped into the middle of groups to do this.

Fight goes H2H, as it likely will, Batman breaks him in two.

For the record, I said IF the post was accurate.

Wait, Watchmen characters were fast? When?

How were they fast? Veidt was the fastest of all the characters and he was the only one exhibiting noteworthy speed. The rest just had very good fighting ability, like Batman. They didn't need to be fast because, like Batman, they know exactly where they need to be.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If this post is accurate, then he pwns Batman 10/10.

Called it.

Hasn't even seen the movie. See? You can't debate Batman with a dude who thinks HE would beat Batman. It's counter-productive.

I know you're saying "IF", to save yourself face and to make it look like you ever had doubt or fair and impartial judgement, but you and I both know for a fact that you are going to agree against Batman.

It's just as inevitable as the tides. NO disrespect here, but it's just how you are with Batman.

-AC

Originally posted by NemeBro
Batman had trouble with dogs. 😐

As far as he knew his daughter just died, and then a large group of armed men rushed into the apartment. Batman would have done no better.

Yeah so? Big Daddy had trouble with fire and yet batman was able to douse the flames on him whilst he had been drugged by scarecrows fear gas.

I think batman would have done waaay better since he never allows himself to be caught off guard by a group of guards. And besides it was big daddys fault for allowing his daughter to get involved, bats isn't stupid like big daddy...I mean he doesn't go to Rachel 'Hey Rach...Bruce here, yeah I was just wondering you wanna help me fight crime? Well its not like some mad man wearing clown make up is gonna oh I dunno...gonna blow you up or something...thats like a 1 in a billion chance haha such a joker you are Rach!' Where as BD was the opposite, there was every chance of his daughter getting hurt or getting shot 😐

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
For the record, I said IF the post was accurate.

Kick-Ass is the "in" movie right now, so factor that in.

Remember when TDK came out and suddenly Joker threads were popping up. I remember one thread had Joker suddenly fighting a Batman's skill level.

Originally posted by Robtard
He was shot in the chest and shoulder, just happened to be where the heaviest bits of armor were. Considering his face and eyes are exposed, he certainly isn't "fully" bulletproof.

Watchmen crew weren't that fast in fighting, Veidt catching a bullet withstanding.

One thing of mention, Batman has taken out several armed goons himself; he did so without the use of lethal weapons. IMO, it's harder to face a gunman with batarangs and fist, than it is to face one with [superior] body-armor, knives and guns. Batman also has jumped into the middle of groups to do this.

Fight goes H2H, as it likely will, Batman breaks him in two.

My memory may be shaky because the film didn't stick with me. The critics are overrating it.

He seemed to be alot faster than the thugs, overwhelmingly fast. Similar to how Dan and Laurie were to the thugs in the alleyway. He is a dead aim shot as I don't recall him missing. I meant he was fully bulletproof in those areas. Of course he isn't a Terminator. But my point was that Batman gets shot and feels it. Hell, it knocks him on his ass. Big Daddy didn't seem to feel anything. The armor was impressive.

Who do you think taught Hit Girl her martial arts skills?

Originally posted by Robtard
Kick-Ass is the "in" movie right now, so factor that in.

Remember when TDK came out and suddenly Joker threads were popping up. I remember one thread had Joker suddenly fighting a Batman's skill level.

I hate going to the movies, I'll just wait for you to send it to me.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Who do you think taught Hit Girl her martial arts skills?

I'd assume her father. Considering he didn't do anything similar to her on screen, it's pointless here.

As I said, he was more of a murdering tank, relying on his armor and lethal weapons to pull him through. Not fighting ability and cunning, which Batman excels at.

For the record, Hitgirl couldn't take out Batman either(this trhead will pop-out, I'd imagine), she was awesome at killing thugs with her guns and knives, but she got beat down by a so-so martial artist. Wayne took on scores of ninjas without breakinga sweat. She'd likely give him a better fight though, she was fast and agile.

People are jizzing over Hit-Girl because she's young and still awesome.

Some kids are awesome at guitar for their age, better than a lot of adults. They're not better than the best adults, though.

Hit-Girl compared to Batman is like a child guitar prodigy Vs a load of journeymen guitarists and then Vs Steve Vai (Batman). It's just not going down.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
My memory may be shaky because the film didn't stick with me. The critics are overrating it.

He seemed to be alot faster than the thugs, overwhelmingly fast. Similar to how Dan and Laurie were to the thugs in the alleyway. He is a dead aim shot as I don't recall him missing. I meant he was fully bulletproof in those areas. Of course he isn't a Terminator. But my point was that Batman gets shot and feels it. Hell, it knocks him on his ass. Big Daddy didn't seem to feel anything. The armor was impressive.

Who do you think taught Hit Girl her martial arts skills?

Why do people do this?

Batman isn't going to be fighting him with guns, so having bulletproof armour doesn't really matter.

Big Daddy has never had to shoot at Batman trying to evade him, and Batman has never had to dodge Big Daddy's shooting. You really can't compare what either of them did to thugs with what they could, or couldn't do to one another.

We don't know that because Big Daddy handled thugs, he could handle Batman, who we have established is way beyond thugs. Has Batman had to deal with someone like Big Daddy? No, so we can't say that he would indefinitely win either.

-AC

SPOILER

I was going to bring that point up about Hit Girl. She pwned cannon fodder but went down suprisingly easily against the boss.

END SPOILER

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
We don't know that because Big Daddy handled thugs, he could handle Batman, who we have established is way beyond thugs. Has Batman had to deal with someone like Big Daddy? No, so we can't say that he would indefinitely win either.

-AC

Why you measure their individual feats and compare, otherwise 99% of these threads would be "we don't know" as the answer and that's no fun.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
1.Hit-Girl compared to Batman is like a child guitar prodigy Vs a load of journeymen guitarists and then Vs Steve Vai (Batman). It's just not going down.
2.Batman isn't going to be fighting him with guns, so having bulletproof armour doesn't really matter.
3.Big Daddy has never had to shoot at Batman trying to evade him, and Batman has never had to dodge Big Daddy's shooting. You really can't compare what either of them did to thugs with what they could, or couldn't do to one another.

1.Wrong. She, for one, kills her enemies......quite brutally too if I might add. She is adept with any weapon Batman is. She effectively employed firearms, knives, staffs, explosives, and nightvision. She was shown to be an adept in-combat strategist. She was atleast as good as Wesley Gibson with guns(bullet bending aside). Hell, she even employed stealth better than anytime Batman did onscreen. She also jumped farther than Batman could have hoped to.
2.Where exactly did I say it mattered?
3.Try this: compare Batman storming Lau's building in Hong Kong to Big Daddy's massacre of the thugs in that warehouse. IIRC, Big Daddy was moving quite faster.

None of which Batman should be ashamed for. Kick Ass' action involving Big Daddy and Hit Girl was more similar to Wanted and Watchmen, not the recent Batman pictures. It wasn't a down-to-earth realistic film. Neither were the abilities of Big Daddy and Hit Girl.

Except you're willfully ignoring the skill level it takes to conquer your opponent by just shooting them, versus taking them out in a non-lethal fashion.

Where was she an "adept combat stragetist"? Storming a place and killing anyone see saw certainly wasn't it.

Better stealth than Batman how?