Originally posted by Warlord
a massive magic hammer...😉
Originally posted by -Pr-
and yet still has a massive hammer.
i think the OP wanted Thor to keep his melee weapon , but all the susequent powers assosiated with it are gone. (projected powers) Afterall it IS a melee weapon and if he hits he gets to put the hurt on team 2, but how many times have we seen Thor down a rwal threat WITHOUT the use of ranged/energy attacks? Not much, i think it's fine that the hammer bros keep the hammers, they're not shooting magical lightning ffs, they're swinging dodgable hits at to faster opponents. Sure their hits count for more, but then that why this is a match and not a slaughter, team 2 has speed aswell as the ability to KO.
I have to say that half Thor fights I remmber were just melle ones. And yes real threats were included.
But I understand what you mean and I agree. It is a close fight. However the hammers retain their magic origin and should affect superman's invulnerability in a degree. T2 has the speed advantage, while T1 has the weapon advantage which would not matter that much if Captain Marvel was in Supaerman's place for example.
Still it's a split for me
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman's fists and Diana's are powerful as well, but when you take people that are already in their class strength wise, and give them a melee weapon which further increases that striking power, things get a bit murky.
That is how I analyzed this as well. It's not the mystical aspect of the hammers that I was concerned about (although that plays a role as well). It's the fact that you have 2 people with weapons vs 2 people without them. Makes up close confrontations a little more difficult. I think Diana with all her skill and training would be able to adapt, but even using the Tiara as a h2h weapon, she'd still have a disadvantage in reach. Give Diana her sword and have her lend Superman her axe. hehehe 😎
If this were strictly, H2H I would give it to Team 2. With the hammer brothers retaining their weapons, I think it's a split.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
That is how I analyzed this as well. It's not the mystical aspect of the hammers that I was concerned about (although that plays a role as well). It's the fact that you have 2 people with weapons vs 2 people without them. Makes up close confrontations a little more difficult. I think Diana with all her skill and training would be able to adapt, but even using the Tiara as a h2h weapon, she'd still have a disadvantage in reach. Give Diana her sword and have her lend Superman her axe. hehehe 😎If this were strictly, H2H I would give it to Team 2. With the hammer brothers retaining their weapons, I think it's a split.
yeah but i think team 2 will get hits more often than team one will. with team 1's hammers some of team 2's speed may be negated, but they will still have the speed advantage. i still lean towards team one slightly. wondy should be able to block some of those shots with her wrist bands. (shields)
Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, so normally in a thor vs superman match, who would you say wins?
Superman.
Originally posted by Juk3n
i think the OP wanted Thor to keep his melee weapon , but all the susequent powers assosiated with it are gone. (projected powers) Afterall it IS a melee weapon and if he hits he gets to put the hurt on team 2, but how many times have we seen Thor down a rwal threat WITHOUT the use of ranged/energy attacks? Not much, i think it's fine that the hammer bros keep the hammers, they're not shooting magical lightning ffs, they're swinging dodgable hits at to faster opponents. Sure their hits count for more, but then that why this is a match and not a slaughter, team 2 has speed aswell as the ability to KO.
i have no problem with them keeping the hammers. the only problem is that the opposition have and can regularly use ranged attacks (lasso, tiara, hv etc). besides, the hammer is always going to hurt more than thor's fist.