Sephiroth and Cloud vs Pain

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Sephiroth and Cloud vs Pain

All 6 realms of Pain. Sephi. in this battle can be killed by same means as Cloud (meaning same endurance as Cloud).
Lifestream is not in this battle. Cloud and Sephi. get materia. Who wins?

I was under the impression that Sephi. & Cloud were VG characters, not anime ones.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I was under the impression that Sephi. & Cloud were VG characters, not anime ones.

They're in a movie, too.

this is a pretty good match up, they are all really epic in their own ways...but i'd have to give it to...pain. pain just has so many really cheap abilities, not to mention there are 6 of them....

Originally posted by Q99
They're in a movie, too.

Based off the game; the only 'anime' appearance they make is in an OVA.
Meh, let me see the rules >__>.

EDIT: Yep,

Rule #1 - "This forum is Anime/Manga Versus. Therefore, all characters in the match must originate in an anime or manga - simply appearing in one is not good enough! If you are unsure if a character originates in a game, do a little research first. Wikipedia and Google are your friends!"

Originally posted by menokokoro
this is a pretty good match up, they are all really epic in their own ways...but i'd have to give it to...pain. pain just has so many really cheap abilities, not to mention there are 6 of them....

Most of which are fodder.

Sephiroth would solo based on the grounds that he is so much faster than Pain any of Pain's abilities would mean absolutely nothing.

i dont know about the speed, there really is no feat on either side that suggests that either is faster than the other. but you may be right...and i think that seph/cloud are certainly stronger at least with "taijutsu" lol.

yeah, i think i am going to have to change my answer, cloud would have a pretty tough time on his own, but he could do it, and he has seph with him, so yeah

The problem is how would they defend against a gravity blast or being sucked inside a 'moon'?

Originally posted by Q99
The problem is how would they defend against a gravity blast or being sucked inside a 'moon'?

Yeah, God realm is pretty G. That and constant revival alone is enough to give them a hard time.
Ghost realm would make it extremely difficult for Sephiroth and Cloud to pull off any black magic successfully, Demon (Asura) realm is another powerhouse, and Animal realm gets to summon. I think Cloud and Sephiroth at the very least have to work very hard for this fight.

Originally posted by Q99
The problem is how would they defend against a gravity blast or being sucked inside a 'moon'?

Because Sephiroth would rape them before they could really do anything.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Because Sephiroth would rape them before they could really do anything.

You dont give any evidence as to why.

Hell, Ghost realm would negate one of the two's black magic. Within two seconds Pein would realize Sephiroth utilizes black magic to a higher degree so he would use Ghost realm for him. God realm could solo either Cloud or Sephiroth. Animal realm isn't capable of killing either, but is a tank which helps for the offensive. With that in mind Hell and Human realm help out animal realm on killing Cloud. Ghost, God, and Asura (Demon) realm fight Sephiroth.

Cloud > Animal, Hell, Human realm(s) 6/10

God, Ghost, and Asura realm(s) > Sephiroth 7/10

Reviving body would revive any bodies killed. I also doubt that Sephiroth is going to solo God, Ghost, and Asura realm(s) easily, and if he does manage to kill one, before he kills another realm the previously killed realm is revived. Same goes for Cloud.

The kill order would most likely be

Sephiroth > Ghost, Sephiroth stalemates God and Asura Realm (7/10 killing Asura realm), Ghost realm comes back immediately followed by Asura Realm and then finished off in one final effort by all three

Cloud > Animal realm, Cloud > Human realm, Cloud solos Hell realm and then Animal and Human realm come back right away and swarm Cloud.

Then, whoever survives between Sephiroth and Cloud is killed by all 6 realms

In my opinion, that's how the fight would pan out.
Pein takes this with extreme difficulty.

Both are much faster than Pain, even Zack as a Second Class SOLDIER was able to effortlessly dodge and block bullets with a normal sized sword.

Sephiroth kills them all with ease, if he goes for God Realm first, Pain is ****ed.

sephy can make meteors bigger than the size of peins chibaku come out of the sky come on now

Originally posted by NemeBro
Both are much faster than Pain, even Zack as a Second Class SOLDIER was able to effortlessly dodge and block bullets with a normal sized sword.

Sephiroth kills them all with ease, if he goes for God Realm first, Pain is ****ed.

Not with ease. I admit, he is faster, but I think Pein is fast enough to dodge a lot of his attacks. Also, I think Pein would do everything in his power not to get close enough to Sephiroth. Sephiroth would at the very least be slowed down by Chibaku tensei, and if it truly came down to it, God realm could use kuchiyose gedo mazo. Also, you forget revival. I also believe Asura realm is capable of dealing some damage. Missiles would slow him down (probably not hurt him much but if something explodes in your face it's bound to slow you down), laser (dont say that wouldn't do anything. I believe it would), and his other attacks could probably be avoided by Sephiorth but if he does that that still slows him down and if he's hit that's still getting hurt (if even a minimal amount). It's not like Sephiroth can take an infinite amount of damage.

That's just my opinion though.

Originally posted by yungz22
sephy can make meteors bigger than the size of peins chibaku come out of the sky come on now

A meteor is a physical object. Gravity is a separate force. Therefore, the same rules dont apply to that kind of attack.

Originally posted by yungz22
sephy can make meteors bigger than the size of peins chibaku come out of the sky come on now

Also, meteor takes a shit load of prep time. He wont have that time, and even if he did he wouldn't be able to summon it while fighting 3+ enemies.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Both are much faster than Pain, even Zack as a Second Class SOLDIER was able to effortlessly dodge and block bullets with a normal sized sword.

Sephiroth kills them all with ease, if he goes for God Realm first, Pain is ****ed.

Pain's pretty darn fast himself, especially in terms of travel speed.

And of course Deva's powers are 360, so even with Zack's incredible reflexes he'll be blasted back, you can't block that.

Either FF character solos. Video game characters anyway.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Either FF character solos. Video game characters anyway.

It's obviously not the video game characters. Game mechanics is non canon as well as the fact that Pein isn't in any video game. Though, if he is in a Japanese version of Naruto video game, it's a fighting game.

Everyone here can assume (since it's the only logical decision) that we're speaking of the animated series and Advent Children.

Yeah...

Pain has never shown to be able to be nearly as fast as two people who are stronger than people that effortlessly block machine-gun fire and dodge it.

I am too lazy to explain why else either would solo, but that is all I need.