Originally posted by Juk3n
what about if they're harmed as a result?
Punish the offender. Duh?
Edit - Case in point, I shouldn't be able to enforce my beliefs on you. I think you should be baptized, not smoke, drink, have sex before marriage, etc. I'm certainly not going to enforce those beliefs on you. On the same token, I think words can be expressed however they like. Exceptions would be things that damage the safety of everyone, such as classified information during time of war, or something like that. I'm a patriot. lulz But, a book about how to entice and rape kids...sure, knock yourself out. Write it. If you get it published, fine. I won't purchase goods fom the store that sells those books, but I certainly won't try to make it illegal for you to express, with words, whatever you want. I expect the same form you. In other words, I hate it when someone can paint me as a hypocrit because I don't like hypocrits. make sense?
Originally posted by Juk3n
Does everyone really think Free speech should stand, no matter the messege?
Sure, I'll take you up on this:
no speach should be censored so long as people are liable for material damages which are a direct consequence of those words. (for instance, yelling fire in a theatre would be a civil matter dependant on actual damages, whereas something like "steal this book" would not be liable for actions a person makes under their own will)
if you are like actually talking about messages and not things like criminal conspiracy or confidential troop movements during a war, then I certainly believe in free speech. Murderers, rapists, terrorists, anyone deserves the right to express their opinions about all matters.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, not while i'm alive anyway. I guess after that it's fair game.
you honestly care if someone symbolically does something to you in a non-invasive way after you are dead?
would you be pissed if i put a hex on you?
EDIT: yes, very witty though, excuse my extremely literal mind
Originally posted by inimalist
you honestly care if someone symbolically does something to you in a non-invasive way after you are dead?would you be pissed if i put a hex on you?
EDIT: yes, very witty though, excuse my extremely literal mind
Originally posted by Juk3n
Does everyone really think Free speech should stand, no matter the messege?
Yes, it should. Any other perspective is almost maddening. We should not simply "pick and choose" what materials to censor from society because it seems a little prejudiced. If you ban/censor one book, why not do it with another? And another? And another?
Originally posted by Ultraviolence
Yes, it should. Any other perspective is almost maddening. We should not simply "pick and choose" what materials to censor from society because it seems a little prejudiced. If you ban/censor one book, why not do it with another? And another? And another?
meh, i suppose i do to, words are words, actions are the choices we indulge after hearing the words. So i'll let you all keep your free speech as long as you decapitate the guy who read "raping kids for beginners volume 1." and started a reinactment club. 😠
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Originally posted by Juk3n
meh, i suppose i do to, words are words, actions are the choices we indulge after hearing the words. So i'll let you all keep your free speech as long as you decapitate the guy who read "raping kids for beginners volume 1." and started a reinactment club. 😠😛
While I won't decapitate him, I'll certainly beat him to near death if he tries to rape, or actually rapes, any of my children or loved ones. (One of those barbaric things that would cause me to assault someone.)