Micheal & Lucifer vs. LT

The Presence isn't omnipotent. He is surpassed by a being that is not even omniscient.

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Kyle

Originally posted by Mindset
If he wants to.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, the word strong describes more than just physical strength. I'll assume you're joking though.

Yeah, I was just trolling you..lol.

But, I do think Mike and Lucy win. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that issue.

That's different. His gay, so he gets an automatic win

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's different. His gay, so he gets an automatic win

Admirable.

Originally posted by Mindset
Always supporting your people.

Admirable.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
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Primal Monitor. "god" Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
The Presence isn't omnipotent. He is surpassed by a being that is not even omniscient.

No on panel proof of that yet. For all we know, the Presence could've created the PM....and yes, the Presence could be supreme over all realities in DC...outside that "germ".

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Primal Monitor. "god" Swamp Thing.

God Swamp had the power to try and replace The Presence, but it's an assumption, not a fact

Presence is Omnipotent within the DCU, Primal Monitor (according to my view) is outside of the DCU proper and thus on another level entirely. Either that or they're the same being.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
PM=Omnipotent(but higher level) like how IG makes you omnipotent, but it still loses to LT.

God Swamp had the power to try and replace The Presence, but it's an assumption, not a fact

So, the Presence isn't completely omnipotent, thus less powerful than THOTI and less powerful than Beyonder and again less powerful than Protege.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Presence is Omnipotent within the DCU, Primal Monitor (according to my view) is outside of the DCU proper and thus on another level entirely. Either that or they're the same being.

An omnipotent being has no limits. For example, if I am 100% omnipotent then I can easily make anyone and everyone omnipotent.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
An omnipotent being has no limits. For example, if I am 100% omnipotent then I can easily make anyone and everyone omnipotent.

Only the writer has no limits. The Presence is omnipotent, but PM is on another level. The same way, Mandrakk, and CA Superman are on another level.

The IG makes you omnipotent, but it still loses to LT who isn't? Why is that? IG makes you omnipotent, but it still is weaker then the HOTU. Why is that?

Because they don't make you completely omnipotent. They only make you omnipotent by word.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Because they don't make you completely omnipotent. They only make you omnipotent by word.

I love this bastardization of the word omnipotent.

lucifer is considered the second most powerful being in existnace on panel.
that puts him above the likes of mxy,bat mite, the spectre, the source,death ,the word, the voice, and every and anything in existace.

the presence is the mind of the primal monitor

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Presence is Omnipotent within the DCU, Primal Monitor (according to my view) is outside of the DCU proper and thus on another level entirely. Either that or they're the same being.

DC does not have power over other comic books. It’s impossible to be beyond your own publication if you don’t own other mediums as well.
No matter how a fictional character is portrayed it can never be greater than the medium it is portrayed in.