Bone Claw Wolverine vs Deathstroke.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
that funny coming from you the guy who said NW not only more skilled then Wolverien but by a large amount........which is a vastly more rediculous statement.

......which makes that way you presented this very post to be absurd...........becuase your own statement early in this thread was far worse......

I think bat dude would agree with me on this, while it debatbale who more skilled wolverine or batman..........NW in no way in hell is more skilled then wolverine, let a lone be a large amount......

...just no no no no.....no.....that just ignorances of the top order......just no

Again you fail to understand a very simple concept: comparing Logan's feats with a Peak human's feats is difficult because Logan is superhuman but if you were to take away all his superhuman stats he's really done little to show he's a Top 5 MA.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I never said large amount, I said a good deal. As in if Logan were a normal human he'd get dropped by either of them rather soundly.

Again you fail to understand a very simple concept: comparing Logan's feats with a Peak human's feats is difficult because Logan is superhuman but if you were to take away all his superhuman stats he's really done little to show he's a Top 5 MA.

again this arguement is retarded. by this logic capt america, IF ect. any person who meta human powers can't be as skilled as human is the most rediculous arguement I have ever heard and it based off nothing.

Logan fights other highly skilled meta human and rage stomps them. Capt, shang-chi ogun ect. they all posses superhuman level abilities with top tier skill and he put them all down.

your arguement should be change to well I like NW better and have no arguement for him being more skilled so I simply pull though well wolverine superhuman so his feats simply arnt as good...dispite there being zero evidence of this......

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So who's in the top 5? Shiva, Dragon, ?? NOT including KK, since he's not on the planet.

Dragon
Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Cass (I am of the opinion that there is a large dose of CIS on Shiva's part in her encounters with Cass)
Connor Hawke

Also I would place Drakon at the top with a caveat. The one sided as kicking he put on Connor Hawke, easily gives him the number one spot, but as he has so few appearances it is possible he becomes shumck latter on. He could go the same route as KGBeast who beat the shit out of Batman the first time they fought but sucked in all subsequent appearances and incarnations. Once again, that isn't including any Old Masters.

I would say:

Shiva/Dragon (around the same)
Cass
BT/Batman
Connor

IMO.

Nightwing thinks Connor is more skilled than Bruce, and I'm inclined to agree.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
One is non-cannon, one is a bio, but the third is fair game. I'd forgotten about that one. 😮

Anyway ABC logic is the only way to come up with a Martial Artist hierarchy. Certainly it has more weight that simply stating "I think Batman is better," with out having anything to back it with. Its not like we are comparing apples and oranges either, all the street level heroes are pretty close to equal physically.

I think Chuck Norris was better than Bruce Lee. ABC logic tells us to look towards their on screen and taped tournament feats. By looking at those, I decree that Chuck Norris was the better fighter.
He would disagree. Most people would disagree with me. Bruce Lee would disagree if he were still breathing. I'm assuming that when you're speaking of ABC logic, you're talking of known variables.

Originally posted by tsscls
I think Chuck Norris was better than Bruce Lee. ABC logic tells us to look towards their on screen and taped tournament feats. By looking at those, I decree that Chuck Norris was the better fighter.
He would disagree. Most people would disagree with me. Bruce Lee would disagree if he were still breathing. I'm assuming that when you're speaking of ABC logic, you're talking of known variables.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nightwing thinks Connor is more skilled than Bruce, and I'm inclined to agree.

Nightwing isn't the be all end all and it's only one opinion. I don't see Connor standing up to Val like Bruce did, even if he was in a coma.

Originally posted by tsscls
I think Chuck Norris was better than Bruce Lee. ABC logic tells us to look towards their on screen and taped tournament feats. By looking at those, I decree that Chuck Norris was the better fighter.
He would disagree. Most people would disagree with me. Bruce Lee would disagree if he were still breathing. I'm assuming that when you're speaking of ABC logic, you're talking of known variables.

Chuck Norris would have beaten Bruce Lee, both in their prime. Mike Tyson would have beaten Ali, both in their prime. The legends of the men far out step their actual abilities. Also its a manor of respect for Chuck Norris to say Bruce Lee would beat him, its not like Chuck Norris is a UFC fighter who needs to talk about how big his dick and how the other guy is no match before every fight. He's a gentleman after all. Batman's ward saying that someone is more skilled than he is, is a different matter entirely.

i couldnt help myself.. have i told you guys i met the man?,,, he gave me his chi .. true story. i can answer who could actually win between him and bruce..

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[QUOTE=12691275]Originally posted by Wild Shadow
[B]i couldnt help myself.. have i told you guys i met the man?,,, he gave me his chi .. true story. i can answer who could actually win between him and bruce..

What's more than 100%? That's how many times infinity that I stand corrected. Awesome+funny video. It could be ret-conned by a batkick, though. 💃

Chuck Norris would lose to Bruce, because he knows he would lose. Simple.

Logan wins majority.

Didn't Norris and Lee actually spar together?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I would say:

Shiva/Dragon (around the same)
Cass
BT/Batman
Connor

IMO.

I'd go:
Cass/Shiva/Dragon
BT/Batman
Black Canary/Connor Hawke

Cassandra has the feats for the number-one spot.

srankmissingnin

Also I would place Drakon at the top with a caveat.

I'm convinced he's superhuman. He beat his foes in large part due to drastically outspeeding and outstrengthing them. And he did fairly impossible feats like pluck a dozen arrows from the air with his finger tips.

I would classify Drakon as "A superhuman who deciding to get really good at martial arts rather than purely rely on his abilities like most metas his levels do."

Originally posted by Q99
Didn't Norris and Lee actually spar together?