Originally posted by inimalistits not the student/childs fault unless they dont ask for specific help more often then not its the educators like lazy @$$ teachers who put their backs to the class scribble on the board and mumble college math jargon to a class who is just being introduce to certain math concepts.. they expect you to already know and grasp what they are telling you forgetting that they are suppose to teach these concepts to you and that most shouldnt already know this unless they personally took their time to study this outside the school curriculum.
omg, stop the internetz!!!!someone call science!!!!
learning disabilities = solved
EDIT: and surprise!!! its the victim's fault for not trying hard enough!
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its not the student/childs fault unless they dont ask for specific help more often then not its the educators like lazy @$$ teachers who put their backs to the class scribble on the board and mumble college math jargon to a class who is just being introduce to certain math concepts.. they expect you to already know and grasp what they are telling you forgetting that they are suppose to teach these concepts to you and that most shouldnt already know this unless they personally took their time to study this outside the school curriculum.
when I get serious credentials, education reform is something I want to write about for many of the reasons you are talking about.
That issue is separate, however, from whether or not some people have a legitimate mental disorder that requires medication or intense behavioural intervention, which was what I was making a sarcastic remark about. Education could be better, sure, but the fact remains that some people, for no fault of their own, are not capable of prospering in the education system.
Of course, if they don't seek help, it is a failure of the person's guardians and the educational establishment itself, but that is again, totally, a different matter
true, i remember the times i would get completely confused listening to my math and chemistry teachers trying to understand what they are scribbling and saying..
you wait till they are done and pass the work assignment then raise your hand ask for help and they tell you, you should have bn listening or he is not going to explain it again call you a carrot or tell you to figure it out..
then you lean over ask the pretty girl or your friend they smile and tell you stuff like when you see this it means this and i learned this during summer or my parents taught it to me or i have internet and i do stuff like this for fun.. the teacher tells you to shut up and no cheating..
in your mind your like dick... she taught me more in 3 minutes then your stupid college educated @$$ could in days or weeks..
i came to realize it is more often then not the educator then the student when i was an adult and had to take some college course to get certified in my line of work.. our company send us to school got us a tutor and with our hands on knowledge we figured out that a lot of what is taught and words used is just self indulgent garbage to separate ones self from the "layman" sadly if they used words ppl hear everyday ppl would learn faster. me and my 5 buddies had the class curve in chemistry, math and our geology class..
some of the students hated us b/c we were a lil older and didnt look like brainiacs but your average construction jock looking pricks..
we werent any smarter then when we were high school kids. the only difference was that we finally had the understanding of what was being said and no longer struggled in these type of classes.
big words although confusing at times we could figure out what the professors were talking about or we were told by our tutors later.. then the light bulb would light up and we be ooohh why didnt the prick just say that instead of saying all that other garbage.. we call it this in the construction world and this is how we figure it out using this method and i guess if we look at these numbers as this piece of equipment and this number as the PSI and this number as depth + torgue that we are shooting for we get this number or at least we should..
Originally posted by OB1-adobeMaths is incredibly easy.
MathI was never great at it, but it all depended on what teacher I had.
I ranged from getting A's in classes to flat out failing.
Some teachers were cool, and were very helpful teaching you the best way to understand, and then there was always the 'I'm gonna make this class a living hell' teacher