Ichigo Kurosaki versus Dante

Originally posted by dw6xl
whats the point of using zommiaru or however you spell it?? dante's time stopping nullifys all of his speed...and you posted a video of ichigo's cutting ability for what? i wasnt arguing dante's cutting power to be better i was just proving dante could easily cut ichigo..unless thats for the other guy than my bad

you're missing the point. Point is, Dante isn't strong enough to cut Ichigo. Are we seriously debating this? Have you seen Bleach episode 271? There's no way Dante is cutting Ichigo.

And When Ichigo swings his sword at Dante he isn't just gonna stab some non vital parts of his body, he's gonna slice him in half.

Originally posted by menokokoro
i have absolutely no idea what you are referring to with zommiaru. that was to show that at that point they were that powerful, and ichigo is strong enough now that that would be like taking a plastic knife to him, and that was without even touching the building. so your cutting demonstration is fodder

you keep saying dante cant cut ichigo..prove it with a scan of ichigo tanking a building cutting slash

Originally posted by No End N Site
LMAO, show me a sword bouncin' off of Ichi, and show me Ichigo get stabbed up and not be near death. It proves that even if Ichi stabs or cuts Dante, it wont do anything.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Also, Dante has a blade that cuts through space, so yeah.

Originally posted by marwash22
you're missing the point. Point is, Dante isn't strong enough to cut Ichigo. Are we seriously debating this? Have you seen Bleach episode 271? There's no way Dante is cutting Ichigo.

And When Ichigo swings his sword at Dante he isn't just gonna stab some non vital parts of his body, he's gonna slice him in half.

anime is non canon.....and also i wasnt arguing dante vs h2 ichigo i was arguin dante vs ICHIGO without the h2...im still waiting for someone to post a scan of ichigo tanking a building cutting slash..and who has ichigo ever cut in half??...and you saying he never tanked a sword slash proves my point valid
..doesnt matter if they are on par or stronger than ichigo he still hasnt ever shown to not be cut...ever so how can you argue somethin that never happened?

Originally posted by dw6xl
you keep saying dante cant cut ichigo..prove it with a scan of ichigo tanking a building cutting slash

Originally posted by dw6xl
anime is non canon.....and also i wasnt arguing dante vs h2 ichigo i was arguin dante vs ICHIGO without the h2...im still waiting for someone to post a scan of ichigo tanking a building cutting slash

Originally posted by menokokoro
yeah i was wrong about saviors size, i must have forgot about his size. but their size is pretty close, not his knee! come on

Show me this, cuz last I saw, they weren't even taller than the trees in that forest under the desert in Hueco Mundo.

Originally posted by menokokoro
...anyway, they are much more powerful than savior, sure they dont have pieces of a city orbiting them, but thats just because their power is contained and not everything does that when they are powerful, you say that like it proves without a shadow of a doubt that it is more powerful than anything that doesn't. do you understand how much ichigo has progressed? i would say that at the point that he stopped the axe from that big guy, he has gotten...lets see........about 400 times as strong, and that is being EXTREMELY conservative, and that includes speed.

Savior wit NO EFFORT wrecks a city, just by walkin' in it. He has large pieces of wreckage orbitin' him, he doesn't even have to take the effort to grab them and pick them up. And 400 hundred times, lulz, you can't prove that, 5 or 10 maybe. Let me ask you, do you understand how much Dante has progressed? DMC4 takes place YEARS before 2.

And somebody show me ichi tank a slash from a blade that can cut through space, instantaneously.

YouTube video

LMFAO! do you see how powerful that thing is, Ichigo tanked it with one hand and came out completely unscathed. Dante would piss himself.

You're not arguing Dante vs Ichigo in Hollow form? Then what's the friggin point to this? Why are you putting Ichigo up against Dante at full strength, but not Dante against Ichigo at full strength? You're a clown.

Of course Dante would win if you're handicapping Ichigo. Take your spite elsewhere.

smh where does it state that the anime is cannon??? and once again yall bring up h2 ichigo when i clearly stated that dante loses to h2 ichigo but beats him without that hollow form....and im still waiting on that ichigo scan

Originally posted by menokokoro
the only reason no swords bounce of ichigo is that he is always fighting someone who is close to or higher power than him. has dante survived being cut in half? or how about his head being cut off? or diced into little pieces, or exploded? all those are things that ichigo could do quite easily.

By the time Ichi's blade slices trough the left half of his neck, the right half has already healed. And Dante can just as easily can dice Ichi into little pieces.

Originally posted by menokokoro
oh wow, that is amazing....how is that relevant?

Do you know how durable the fabric of space and time is? If you don't know that, it's time to end this little debate, right now. A black hole is an example of the power needed to damage time and space.

Dante uses QS and slashes Ichi to ribons wit he Yamato.

Originally posted by marwash22
You're not arguing Dante vs Ichigo in Hollow form? Then what's the friggin point to this? Why are you putting Ichigo up against Dante at full strength, but not Dante against Ichigo at full strength? You're a clown.

Of course Dante would win if you're handicapping Ichigo.

lol im a clown now? lol you gotta resort to name callin?? step ya weight up BOY...but on topic h2 ichigo was only shown to come out once ichigo was near death and because he heard orihime's voice...he could never use it at will in the series....but all of a sudden yall talkin about h2 ichigo like he's in that form from the beginning because its obviously not in the OP... and your talking about im handicapping him?? well i guess kubo handicapping him as well cuz he sure wasnt in h2 wen he fought yammy. gin, or aizen..FOH...BOY......YOUR MAD

First of all... you're an idiot 'cause it's completely canon.. that is not a clip from a filler arc... it's a direct animation of the manga. jeez, you're either slow or tremendously uninformed.

Ok, I'm not arguing that either, Dante would destroy Ichigo... AT HIS WEAKEST STATE! As long as you're admitting that, when both are at full strength, Ichigo makes Dante his biatch.

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Originally posted by dw6xl
..FOH...BOY......YOUR MAD

Debates always go sour once feelings start to get hurt and name callin' pops up.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Show me this, cuz last I saw, they weren't even taller than the trees in that forest under the desert in Hueco Mundo.

Originally posted by No End N Site
And 400 hundred times, lulz, you can't prove that, 5 or 10 maybe. Let me ask you, do you understand how much Dante has progressed? DMC4 takes place YEARS before 2.

Originally posted by dw6xl
smh where does it state that the anime is cannon??? and once again yall bring up h2 ichigo when i clearly stated that dante loses to h2 ichigo but beats him without that hollow form....and im still waiting on that ichigo scan

Originally posted by No End N Site
By the time Ichi's blade slices trough the left half of his neck, the right half has already healed. And Dante can just as easily can dice Ichi into little pieces.

Do you know how durable the fabric of space and time is? If you don't know that, it's time to end this little debate, right now. A black hole is an example of the power needed to damage time and space.

Dante uses QS and slashes Ichi to ribons wit he Yamato.

.....are you kidding? the sword does that because of its magic ability, not because of its slashing ability.

the most impressive feat for slicing shown for dante has been done a long time ago with the flick of a sword against a building without touching it and ichigo's spirit energy since then has risen an incredible amount since then, and in bleach, the more spirit energy being released, the more durrible you are, as shown like 8 times in various fights throughout the anime/manga.

Originally posted by menokokoro
it doesn't matter, size does not = power.

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I don't really even care to debate this , cuz my point was that Savior is HUMONGOUS and Dante can hold up Savior with out really tryin'.

Originally posted by menokokoro
ok after that point he learned his zanpaktos name, and then trained by fighting a few guys, that easily doubled his power, then he fought kenpachi, learned to control his power more, and then learned to combine his power with zangetso, that EASILY doubles again, thats 4 times. then he learns to use his bankai, thats another 4 times, (this might sound like im handing it out, but if you REALLY payed attention in the show, it makes sense.) so that is 16 times, then after than he trains a little, and fights a few guys, then learns to use his hollow mask, that at least doubles it, so that is 32 times, then he fights a bunch of guys gaining strength against each one, and then fights grimjaw, thats probably at least double there that is 64 times, then after winning that fight he AT THE VERY LEAST triples his power because he can then fight uquiorra so that is 192, then he fights uquiorra, dies, comes back as h2 which is EASILY like 8 time his power at that point, but thats not the argument, and after that starts fighting the guy who is 5 numbers higher than uquiorra for a while (and while fighting this guy his power was at less than 1/4) so ill give that 3 times, just to be conservative, so...yeah, that is 576 times...i know not "proof" but the people that owned him like he was nothing, and then he gained power to beat them, i feel im being extremely conservative here.

Dude, your numbers WAY too big. You should be usin' addition in most places, not multiplication. Bankai Ichi is like 5X stronger than regular Ichi and the masks ADD(+) power to his Bankai power, they don't multiply his Bankai power by these ridiculous numbers.

Originally posted by menokokoro
you have proof that he heals fast enough for someone who goes like Mach 80 billion (HORRIBLE exaggeration) to cut through?

YES...Vergil

Originally posted by menokokoro
are you kidding? the sword does that because of its magic ability, not because of its slashing ability.

It doesn't matter, it does it and it works.

Originally posted by menokokoro
the most impressive feat for slicing shown for dante has been done a long time ago with the flick of a sword against a building without touching it

Haven't seen Dante effortlessly cut through the hell gate, yet, huh?

Originally posted by menokokoro
and ichigo's spirit energy since then has risen an incredible amount since then, and in bleach, the more spirit energy being released, the more durrible you are, as shown like 8 times in various fights throughout the anime/manga.

Ichigo has not shown that he is more durable than a building sized Hell gate or the Savior.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Dude, your numbers WAY too big. You should be usin' addition in most places, not multiplication. Bankai Ichi is like 5X stronger than regular Ichi and the masks ADD(+) power to his Bankai power, they don't multiply his Bankai power by these ridiculous numbers.

and between that and the axe guy, there were 2 MAJOR increases in power, and a few minor ones.