Originally posted by WarlordJust curious how many blasts do you think it would take to take Kara out for good?
no problems 👆I don't consider dimension punching as regular strength levels anyway. I'm just saying that if you seearch for ridiculous feats you'll probably find them.
as for the fight i see BB winning if he uses his voice since I doubt SG could/would one shoot him
Originally posted by Warlord
full sreaming?
I haven't seen anyone at top tier tanking a sream from blackblot so yeah if he goes all out one would be enough IMO
I even remember a comic where he threaten an abstract entity with his voice
Hmm... I was under the impression his scream was the equivalent of a high yield nuke.
Originally posted by Warlord
it is far more powerfull... 🙂
@ Mindset....because that is what the Official Handbook of the Marvel universe says. Quoted....
"The most devastating of the effects is Black Bolt’s quasi-sonic scream. Because his electron-harnessing ability is linked to the speech center of his brain, any attempt to use his vocal cords – from the merest whisper to a full scream – triggers an uncontrollable disturbance of the particle / electron interaction field. This result in a shock wave equivalent, at maximum force, to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon. A whisper has generated sufficient force to rock a battleship, while a scream can reduce a mountain to rubble."
Also I don't take much stock in the Marvel Universe website, but it also states...
"This "quasi-sonic" scream is powered by electron energy that he draws in from the environment. At maximum the force is equal to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon."
Originally posted by Omega VisionCatched a sniper bullet>>>Blocking a machine gun bullet.
Bullet catching is something a well trained enhanced human can perform. Hell Batman has deflected bullets before.Nothing that proves his reflexes are close to Kara's.
Originally posted by KontonYour point?The sniper bullet was moving faster then he could see...
Seing as how Kara isn't holding back, what's to stop her from moving faster than he can see? Wonder Girl has some point blank reflex feats from Superboy Prime and Superman robots and she couldn't see Kara vibrating five yards yonder.
Originally posted by Lunacydeand she's kyrptonian.She gets more powerful in the sun.
Instead of insulting me and turning the attention away from the actual debate how about you do as I asked and provide some feats that would put him in the similar range I have described ....K...Thanx 🙂@ Wild Shadow...Kara is fine inside the sun which is the loudest place in the Solar System, I don't think it should be too much trouble.
Originally posted by WarlordTo be fair there was a comic where sue's force field protected franklin,the FF,and namor for 5 sec from a BB scream.
full sreaming?
I haven't seen anyone at top tier tanking a sream from blackblot so yeah if he goes all out one would be enough IMO
I even remember a comic where he threaten an abstract entity with his voice
Originally posted by Lunacyde
@ Mindset....because that is what the Official Handbook of the Marvel universe says. Quoted...."The most devastating of the effects is Black Bolt’s quasi-sonic scream. Because his electron-harnessing ability is linked to the speech center of his brain, any attempt to use his vocal cords – from the merest whisper to a full scream – triggers an uncontrollable disturbance of the particle / electron interaction field. This result in a shock wave equivalent, at maximum force, to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon. A whisper has generated sufficient force to rock a battleship, while a scream can reduce a mountain to rubble."
Also I don't take much stock in the Marvel Universe website, but it also states...
"This "quasi-sonic" scream is powered by electron energy that he draws in from the environment. At maximum the force is equal to that caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon."
Originally posted by Warlord
good good but from all the above mentioned characters the only one that is superior to strength (and that is slightly superior) to an enraged hulk and gladiator is Superman
Yeah, that's...not true. Martian Manhunter can be stronger than Superman if he wants to be.
Anyway, Kara wins due to superior physical abilities.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Catched a sniper bullet>>>Blocking a machine gun bullet. Your point?The sniper bullet was moving faster then he could see... and she's kyrptonian.She gets more powerful in the sun. To be fair there was a comic where sue's force field protected franklin,the FF,and namor for 5 sec from a BB scream.
1: The handbooks are not always right.I own that handbook and I can point out several flaws.
2: Scream for as short as you can.Now imagine a constant scream.Thats a force greater then a nuclear explosion in a much mroe enclosed area for as long as he can scream.Very strong.
If you are going to tell me the Handbook is incorrect you better be ready to show me a few cases where his scream/shout has shown more destructive power than a nuclear bomb. Otherwise it's just your word against theirs, and I think most people will agree it's a more valid source than some random guy off the internet. 🙂
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Kara is in the same ballpark strength-wise as Superman who has moved planets.Give me a strength feat from Hulk or Gladiator that compares.
Gladiator has shattered planets with his punches, and black bolt has gone toe to toe with him. He isn't about to just smashed by Kara
Originally posted by LunacydeYou could, you know, check his respect thread.
If you are going to tell me the Handbook is incorrect you better be ready to show me a few cases where his scream/shout has shown more destructive power than a nuclear bomb. Otherwise it's just your word against theirs, and I think most people will agree it's a more valid source than some random guy off the internet. 🙂
Originally posted by jalek moye
Gladiator has shattered planets with his punches, and black bolt has gone toe to toe with him. He isn't about to just smashed by Kara
Gladiator is a yo-yo character. When facing no-names or pulling off feats in the middle of space where it doesn't matter he is shown to be powerful, but when pitted against high profile and popular characters he loses to people far below his power range, and has general poor showings.
@ Wild Shadow. Very Impressive, however that is a constant screaming and wailing over an extended time period. Meaning that is multiple, multiple screams. I would be willing to wager that if you took each scream, each scream itself was equivalent to a nuclear explosion, however since he was screaming multiple times the entire event held the power of multiple, multiple nuclear explosions. Nuclear tests have been known to shake continents on the opposite side of the world.
We'll he has destroyed a force field that took a nucleaur blast with his voice. atomized a mountain with a faint sound, dropped hulk and gladiator with whispers, completely eradictaed a skrull armada, the thing wild shadow posted, destroyed cities with low volume sounds. His voice is much more powerfu lthen a nucluer explosion it's just that is the level he tends to use it at with low volume attacks.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Gladiator is a yo-yo character. When facing no-names or pulling off feats in the middle of space where it doesn't matter he is shown to be powerful, but when pitted against high profile and popular characters he loses to people far below his power range, and has general poor showings.@ Wild Shadow. Very Impressive, however that is a constant screaming and wailing over an extended time period. Meaning that is multiple, multiple screams. I would be willing to wager that if you took each scream, each scream itself was equivalent to a nuclear explosion, however since he was screaming multiple times the entire event held the power of multiple, multiple nuclear explosions. Nuclear tests have been known to shake continents on the opposite side of the world.
You ask for a feat that compares and you're given the planet one with Gladiator and now Glads becomes a yo-yo character?