Originally posted by jinzin
except for the part where he put her in a stasis field.
My bad you are correct. However he put her in it and clobbered her with a blast. Ronan doesn't always use his stasis field that means that he fights like a moron most of the time, he didn't use his stasis field when fighting Ravenous.
The facts are these and they are undisputable... Ronan used a VARIETY of his powers against Gamora. Gamora used her skill and speed to make a fight of it. These are undisputable facts of their encounter, and a perfect example of someone inferior power wise and strength wise use skill to overcome those factors. Ronan didn't fight stupid and that is a piss poor excuse by some of you. In comics, movies and any genre you can think.. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS... People knock someone down and then start a monologue or let them get up. This HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN COMICS. It's not an indication that they fought stupid and thus the fight thrown out as PIS or CIS. If that was the criteria used we would throw out about 95% of all fights in comics or movies. Spare me this piss poor excuse and reaching
it's stupid b/c in the forum fight the villain wont monologue and let you recover or forget about you complete or hit you just enough to wound you rather then just out right kill you.
that fight could have gone exactly the same with certain peak lvlers and superhuman if you switched out gamora that alone makes the entire fight PIs and not anymore impressive when DD or anyone else get's the lucky hit due to writer armor.
Originally posted by Deadline
My bad you are correct. However he put her in it and clobbered her with a blast. Ronan doesn't always use his stasis field that means that he fights like a moron most of the time, he didn't use his stasis field when fighting Ravenous.
That's true he does...
That's why I don't think that that particular on panel fight is much of a display for Gamora at the level that most people think it is.
He could have just left her there y'know.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The facts are these and they are undisputable... Ronan used a VARIETY of his powers against Gamora. Gamora used her skill and speed to make a fight of it. These are undisputable facts of their encounter, and a perfect example of someone inferior power wise and strength wise use skill to overcome those factors. Ronan didn't fight stupid and that is a piss poor excuse by some of you. In comics, movies and any genre you can think.. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS... People knock someone down and then start a monologue or let them get up. This HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN COMICS. It's not an indication that they fought stupid and thus the fight thrown out as PIS or CIS. If that was the criteria used we would throw out about 95% of all fights in comics or movies. Spare me this piss poor excuse and reaching
He fought stupid. I don't really care what you're Thanos related love has to say about the matter. When he used his powers he had an overwhelming advantage, but stopped using them (mostly off panel) for what I can see as NO reason at all. Not really sure how giving up your advantages is NOT a stupid thing to do in a fight.
Originally posted by King Castle
it's stupid b/c in the forum fight the villain wont monologue and let you recover or forget about you complete or hit you just enough to wound you rather then just out right kill you.that fight could have gone exactly the same with certain peak lvlers and superhuman if you switched out gamora that alone makes the entire fight PIs and not anymore impressive when DD or anyone else get's the lucky hit due to writer armor.
So then, you would throw out 95% of all fights in comics as PIS or CIS.. You support this stance then?
Originally posted by jinzin
That's true he does...
Wait what, when did this happem? So Ronan is a moron now? So if we posted scans of Ronan vs Ravenous you would be arguing that he was fighting like a moron?
Originally posted by jinzin
That's why I don't think that that particular on panel fight is much of a display for Gamora at the level that most people think it is.He could have just left her there y'know.
You missed the point. Nobody fights the same 100% of the time or we could clasify most fights as CIS or PIS. He actually used more powers against Gamora than he did against Ravenous, which actually shows how impressive she is.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If you have an an ability that completely incapacitates an opponent and you don't use it, or you do use it... but decided to let the enemy so you can melee them and don't use said ability again, then you are fighting like an idiot. Ronan jobbed.
You could say that about lots of characters though...and he used more powers against her than he did against Ravenous. Even if it was CIS it still shows how tough she was.
Originally posted by jinzin
He fought stupid. I don't really care what you're Thanos related love has to say about the matter. When he used his powers he had an overwhelming advantage, but stopped using them (mostly off panel) for what I can see as NO reason at all. Not really sure how giving up your advantages is NOT a stupid thing to do in a fight.
So then, you would also through out the majority of fights in comics? This is your stance then? Because the vast majority of fights, WHICH BY THE WAY ARE WHAT WE USE AS PROOF AND CANON.. would be thrown out under your criteria as CIS or PIS. Thus, if it were up to you guys, we would have exponentionally less material to use as support. Luckily you guys aren't that important and thus we'll go about things the way we always have. That fight is canon and on panel proof of Gamora's skill
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So then, you would also through out the majority of fights in comics? This is your stance then? Because the vast majority of fights, WHICH BY THE WAY ARE WHAT WE USE AS PROOF AND CANON.. would be thrown out under your criteria as CIS or PIS. Thus, if it were up to you guys, we would have exponentionally less material to use as support. Luckily you guys aren't that important and thus we'll go about things the way we always have. That fight is canon and on panel proof of Gamora's skill
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So then, you would also through out the majority of fights in comics? This is your stance then? Because the vast majority of fights, WHICH BY THE WAY ARE WHAT WE USE AS PROOF AND CANON.. would be thrown out under your criteria as CIS or PIS. Thus, if it were up to you guys, we would have exponentionally less material to use as support. Luckily you guys aren't that important and thus we'll go about things the way we always have. That fight is canon and on panel proof of Gamora's skill
What about Wolverine vs Thor? Doesn't Thor hammer have a lot of fancy powers did Thor fight like a moron because he didn't try to teleport Wolverine or suck him of energy?
we throw it out b/c the villain wont stop in a forum fight to monologue....
nor do we use PIS period in this Forum we also dont allow for use of terrain which is what allows guys like DD and Spiderman to compete with guys like Electro or Absorbing man.
you really Think Doom is going to lose to Black Panther in a Forum fight?
your wanking has reached new heights.
this forum goes by logic as well as Scans in "Context" to the story
Originally posted by King Castle
we throw it out b/c the villain wont stop in a forum fight to monologue....nor do we use PIS period in this Forum we also dont allow for use of terrain which is what allows guys like DD and Spiderman to compete with guys like Electro or Absorbing man.
you really Think Doom is going to lose to Black Panther in a Forum fight?
your wanking has reached new heights.
this forum goes by logic as well as Scans in "Context" to the story
I don't think you understood the point he was making. The point is that using your logic 90% of fights would be CIS/PIS, thats it.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed. It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.We don't ignore context or plot devices regardless of how often they occur.
I don't think you understood the point he was making. The point is that using your logic 90% of fights would be CIS/PIS, thats it.