Characters vs. ability official tier list!

Started by Nephthys4 pages

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Galan007
You know the page number? I even did a Ctrl+F on my digital copy and couldn't find that quote.
mattatom
No, I just remember people saying that.
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SW Databank
Lightsabers clashed inside the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious.

^ Hm, so the actual quote came from the SW databank? If so, it contradicts the happenings of the novel, in which Galen/Palps never had a saber battle.

So until something more solid comes along, I'll take that quote with a grain of salt and stick with my opinion that Galen did quite well against Palps.

Galan007
^ Hm, so the actual quote came from the SW databank? If so, it contradicts the happenings of the novel, in which Galen/Palps never had a saber battle.
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SW Databank
As Juno rescued the Senators, Starkiller confronted the Sith Lords who had been manipulating him for years. Lightsabers (as in, the lightsabers of Galen Marek and Darth Vader) clashed inside the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious. Bombarded by Force lightning, Starkiller did not fight back but instead unleashed all the power of the Force within him, causing a tremendous blast that shattered the Emperor's tower and caused enough of a distraction to allow Eclipse and the Rebel Senators to escape.
Everything works.

I provided the link because I figured you would actually follow it to the original source and read the passage in context.

Galan007
So until something more solid comes along, I'll take that quote with a grain of salt and stick with my opinion that Galen did quite well against Palps.
He killed himself and did no significant damage to the Emperor. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't pretend it's logical.

^ I didn't click the link because a.) I figured everything significant would be in your post, and b.) I'm posting from my i-phone. No reason to get snippy about it. 🙂

Anyhow, my main point was that Galen advanced against Palpatine's lightning - Yoda himself barely managed to defend himself from it, let alone gain any ground against it. Thus placing Galen in Yoda's tier is acceptable, imo.

Yoda didn't die. Yoda turned the lightning back on Sidious, and wasn't taking personal damage. It killed Galan. He did well. But decidedly worse than Yoda did. I put Galan around the level of Dooku, in my personal opinion.

He's higher imo. Dooku's never really overly impressed me Force-wise except for standing up to Yoda in AotC. The fight itself wasn't that great and it isn't enough to put him on Galen Force-juggernaut levels. From what I remember Dooku was highly skilled but lacks Galens raw power.

Originally posted by truejedi
Yoda didn't die. Yoda turned the lightning back on Sidious, and wasn't taking personal damage. It killed Galan. He did well. But decidedly worse than Yoda did. I put Galan around the level of Dooku, in my personal opinion.
Yoda barely managed to defend against the lightning - doing so literally blew him back (he had no chance of pushing forward.) Galen not only 'ate' the lightning (sorta speak) but he advanced against it to the point where he was able to grab Palps.

Originally posted by Galan007
(he had no chance of pushing forward.)

wut? no.

Galan is coming back and I believe Yoda has something to do with it! Anyways remember Galan is just the game developers idea of showing how the force could be "unleashed" he is not cannon not yet anyway so lets not even consider HIM.

Originally posted by SithAce_1
Galen is coming back and I believe Yoda has something to do with it! Anyways remember Galan is just the game developers idea of showing how the force could be "unleashed" he is not cannon not yet anyway so lets not even consider HIM.
Spoiler:
Galens a clone [In TFU2]
so in traditional Star Wars originality,
Spoiler:
will he be called Gaalen like Lukes clone was called Luuke?

Oh and Galen Marek's existance is canon, as is the LS ending of TFU.

Originally posted by truejedi
wut? no.
You think he could have pushed forward to the degree Galen did? What makes you think so?

Because it KILLED Galen. What Yoda did didn't hurt him. The look of "Oh Crap" on Sidious's face tells me that as well.

Speculation I guess, but, a supportable point of view.

Originally posted by truejedi
Because it KILLED Galen. What Yoda did didn't hurt him. The look of "Oh Crap" on Sidious's face tells me that as well.

Speculation I guess, but, a supportable point of view.

I do see your point of view, and it is certainly supportable. But here's where I'm coming from...

As I'm sure you know, Yoda had two encounters with force lightning. The first was when he was zapped upon entering Palpatine's chamber - an attack which put him down for a short while (long enough for Palps to walk across the room and monologue for a bit.) The second instance was in the Senate pod when Yoda attempted blocking the lightning from close range - it was all he could do to briefly defend against it, before blowing himself and Palps back.

Other side of the coin, Galen 'ate' the lightning from an *arguably* more powerful Palpatine, for an extended length of time. Not only that, but he also managed to overcome said attack when he forced his way against it and grabbed the old bastard by the wrists. Personal opinion aside, I'm sure most would agree on the uberness Galen displayed there.

That said, because of the above feat (along with his others) I don't think it's illogical to place Galen in Yoda's tier. Obviously this doesn't automatically mean he is = to Yoda, but it does mean that he's in the same general power class. Imo.

you know what I find frustrating? The whole point of the OT was that Luke was the last Jedi. The first Jedi in 20 years, and the last of his kind. People had even forgotten what Jedi were.

Instead, thanks to the EU, we have Jedi EVERYWHERE during that 20 year period. So the Sith were never even able to come as close to wiping out the Jedi as the Sith were voluntarily wiped out for 4000 years getting ready for their big take-over.

TJ, I wouldn't call Bane's actions voluntary on the part of the other Sith.
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Originally posted by truejedi
you know what I find frustrating? The whole point of the OT was that Luke was the last Jedi. The first Jedi in 20 years, and the last of his kind. People had even forgotten what Jedi were.

Instead, thanks to the EU, we have Jedi EVERYWHERE during that 20 year period. So the Sith were never even able to come as close to wiping out the Jedi as the Sith were voluntarily wiped out for 4000 years getting ready for their big take-over.

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Even in ANH one of the Imperial underlings says something to Vader about the Jedi being an all but extinct race, or somesuch.

right, and calls the force a hokey religion.

Originally posted by truejedi
right, and calls the force a hokey religion.
No, thats Han 😉

good catch matt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4T7_XI7WM

Imperial says "don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's way's. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion..."