The One-Above-All versus The Fulcrum

Since it doesn't already exist (which somewhat surprises me,) who do you believe would win?

OAA is viewed as "god" of the Marvel Universe, even though Marvel claims that such really isn't the case. The Tribunal is generally referred to as the most powerful entity in the universe. And even then, this entity serves OAA (whom is truly the most powerful entity in the multi/uni-verse).

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The Fulcrum is the leader of the Celestials, the Horde, and the Watchers. (That is pretty much all I know of him, but with such followers, I'd imagine he would have to be extremely powerful, possibly even on OAA's level.)

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Both are deemed as god(s). I personally believe that OAA would win, but that's simply because I'm quite ignorant as to The Fulcrum's true power.

TOOA is the writer

toaa, is two different characters
1.the celestial
2.GOD

i think your mixed up and think the celestial toaa is god

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
toaa, is two different characters
1.the celestial
2.GOD

i think your mixed up and think the celestial toaa is god

The Fulcrum

Originally posted by "Id"
The Fulcrum

Any specific reason as to why? Or is the answer due to my mishap? 😆

Originally posted by Tannz0rz
Oh? You seem to be correct. The only other depiction of OAA I've seen was in Sensational Spider Man. I've got the wrong image.

Fulcrum was portrayed to be greater than any Celestials.

TOAA is a Celestial.

Fulcrum > TOAA

Good logic yes?

Originally posted by kgkg
Fulcrum was portrayed to be greater than any Celestials.

TOAA is a Celestial.

Fulcrum > TOAA

Good logic yes?

Good logic if I was referring to the Celestial. That was my mistake. Let me see if I can swap around images.

And if you referring to the Marvel God TOAA.

The name speaks for itself. It always wins.

Originally posted by kgkg
And if you referring to the Marvel God TOAA.

The name speaks for itself. It always wins.

I am referring to him, but if you're claiming that he be "god", such is a statement that Marvel never made. Have you considered The Fulcrum's powers at all? I know relatively little about The Fulcrum, but there could be more to him than just the fact that he is the leader of the Celestials.

Originally posted by Tannz0rz
I am referring to him, but if you're claiming that he be "god", such is a statement that Marvel never made. Have you considered The Fulcrum's powers at all? I know relatively little about The Fulcrum, but there could be more to him than just the fact that he is the leader of the Celestials.

The Fulcrum was referred to be powerful being but never has he shown to be greater than the LT let alone be God.

Fulcrum could be the TOAA but there is nothing conclusive to support that argument.

Originally posted by kgkg
TOAA is the entity that above the Living Tribunal which is an omniversal force that has power over all of Marvel a fraction of the TOAA power in the form of the HOTU was able to defeated everything in Marvel.

The Fulcrum was referred to be powerful being but never has he shown to be greater than the LT let alone be God.

Fulcrum could be the TOAA but there is nothing conclusive to support that argument.

My point exactly. But because of this, there's nothing to say that TOAA is any more powerful than he.

Originally posted by Tannz0rz
My point exactly. But because of this, there's nothing to say that TOAA is any more powerful than he.

there is two possibilities here

Option 1:
TOAA is the most powerful ever. Fact.

so
TOAA > Fulcrum

Option 2:

Fulcrum is TOAA so

Fulcrum = TOAA

But we know that TOAA wins by default because it's the most powerful unless you can prove that Fulcrum is TOAA there is no reason why TOAA isn't the winner here. Because if Fulcrum is TOAA he looses

Originally posted by kgkg
But there is

there is two possibilities here

Option 1:
TOAA is the most powerful ever. Fact.

so
TOAA > Fulcrum

Option 2:

Fulcrum is TOAA so

Fulcrum = TOAA

But we know that TOAA wins by default because it's the most powerful unless you can prove that Fulcrum is TOAA there is no reason why TOAA isn't the winner here. Because if Fulcrum is TOAA he looses

I suppose that makes sense, lol. Never really thought that out entirely.

Jack Kirby > Stan Lee IMO. So Fulcrum > TOAA. dur

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Jack Kirby > Stan Lee IMO. So Fulcrum > TOAA. dur

Hah, valid point.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Jack Kirby > Stan Lee IMO. So Fulcrum > TOAA. dur

Originally posted by King Kandy
When we saw TOAA, it was also Jack Kirby. Not Stan.

Okay then Jack Kirby > Jack Kirby 😄

Originally posted by King Kandy
When we saw TOAA, it was also Jack Kirby. Not Stan.

Hrm, if that's true, then what if they are in fact the same entity just under different names?