Raikage vs Tsunade

Started by Demonic Phoenix6 pages

Half of the blade is impaled in the ground
http://img20.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/19-170.0/compressed/Naruto_c170_p13.jpg

When we next see the blade, it is in the air with Tsunade. That means that she had to lift it into the air. How she managed this is not known, but she managed to do it.
http://img20.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/19-170.0/compressed/Naruto_c170_p17.jpg

Then we see her turn the blade through a large angle, and push it through Manda's mouth (not let gravity do all the work, as she is in contact with it throughout the entire ordeal)
http://img06.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/19-170.0/compressed/Naruto_c170_p18.jpg

From my understanding Tsunande is a class-100 warrior. This can be proven with a simple calculation of when she's using Gamabuta's katana.

A regular katana handle is approximately 4 cm, and the length of Gamabuta's katana's handle is a approximately 3/2 of Tsunande's length (or 2 meters).

A reasonable assumption would be that Gamabuta's katana has the same density as a regular katana.

So the formula is basically:

([Length of Gamabuta's katana]/[Length of a regular katana])^3 * [Density of a regular katana] = [Mass of Gamabunta's katana]

(2/.05)^3 * 2 = 250 000 kg (= 250 tons)

Raikage (Also known as "A"😉 seem to be more deadly than strong. He's as fast as the Yellow Flash, his lightning shield increases his defense and offense dramaticly and he's pretty powerful to begin with.

I'm going with Tsunsande for now (in terms of strength) based on the evidence for now. But I'm going to reserve judgement until I see the upper limits of A's strength.

last time i checked i think a katana's handle is a bit longer than 4 cm. my hand is wider than 2 inches. that's a dwarf katana. what you mean is the thickness? in that case you still cant cube it because you're trying to assume the length and the width is also 4 cm. ay yi yi and you should compare the thickness of gamabunta's sword not his length.

nice flute

Originally posted by kava_kava
last time i checked i think a katana's handle is a bit longer than 4 cm. my hand is wider than 2 inches. that's a dwarf katana. what you mean is the thickness?

Well it has length, breadth and thickness. I was referring to the breadth.

Originally posted by kava_kava
in that case you still cant cube it because you're trying to assume the length and the width is also 4 cm. ay yi yi and you should compare the thickness of gamabunta's sword not his length.

Wrong. By assuming both swords has the same dimensions it's fine.

Lets examine a sword that's has twice the breadth. That sword will also have the properties of twice the length and twice the width (for it to have the same shape).

(2*length)*(2*width)(2*breadth) = 2^3 * volume

Same goes for any scalar.

Originally posted by kava_kava
nice flute

Thanks, I animated it in MATLAB of all programs so it's special.

Technically that would put Tsunande above class 100 in Marvel.

Usually "class 100" also refers to incalculable in most handbooks.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Usually "class 100" also refers to incalculable in most handbooks.

Well the Master edition has them separated. Regardless, she ends up in the highest category of each of our handbooks.

No not really.

Class 100 isnt what you think it is.

Class 50 people regularly have feats in the 10,000's ton ranges

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No not really.

Class 100 isnt what you think it is.

Class 50 people regularly have feats in the 10,000's ton ranges


Except for the fact that what you find in respect threads aren't regularities. Class 50 as defined by Marvel, in the handbooks as well as on the official website, is when you're able to lift up to 50 tons.

I would also like to know what Class 50 characters you're referring to that lifted 10,000 tons.

Originally posted by Astner
Except for the fact that what you find in respect threads aren't regularities. Class 50 as defined by Marvel, in the handbooks as well as on the official website, is when you're able to lift up to 50 tons.

I would also like to know what Class 50 characters you're referring to that lifted 10,000 tons.

Several

Prime offender being the thing

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Several

Prime offender being the thing


Nice to see that you listed them all. Sarcasm aside, the Thing's class has been shifting from 75 to 100, so it's probably the poorest example you could have come up with.

Either way, regular writers work doesn't affect the class system. It is there, it's just that they've misinterpreted it.

It isnt misinterpreted by the writers it is misinterpreted by the readers

That fact that it isnt just one character or just one series under 1 specific writers makes me think that

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
It isnt misinterpreted by the writers it is misinterpreted by the readers

That fact that it isnt just one character or just one series under 1 specific writers makes me think that


That's why people fans refer to characters by their creators i.e. "Bendis' Thor". There are out-liners, but in the end class 100 is well defined and neither the Thor struggling to wrestle lions nor Ben Grimm lifting a house will change that.

Originally posted by Astner
That's why people fans refer to characters by their creators i.e. "Bendis' Thor". There are out-liners, but in the end class 100 is well defined and neither the Thor struggling to wrestle lions nor Ben Grimm lifting a house will change that.

If I had a goatee I would stroke it

Sub-Mariner is class 70 but he has plenty of class 100 feats.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Sub-Mariner is class 70 but he has plenty of class 100 feats.

List one where you think the writer sat with a straightedge and calculator.

Once again, the writers making class 90 characters lift houses and whatnot doesn't alter their definition of the class systema above.

Astner is right on this.

Class 100, according to official definition, is capacity to lift 100 tons, or more.

If a character that is class 50 has lifted over 100 tons, it was either an irregularity or the character is stronger than previously thought and is class 100.

Also, in terms of pure strength Tsunade has the better feats, in a straight fight Raikage would destroy her.

Also hypothetically, Tsunade could use her forehead-chakra to power any jutsu, including a strength-based one.

We've just happened to have only seen her use it for defensive jutsu, but if you think about it that chakra store is a major threat.

Originally posted by Astner
From my understanding Tsunande is a class-100 warrior. This can be proven with a simple calculation of when she's using Gamabuta's katana.

A regular katana handle is approximately 4 cm, and the length of Gamabuta's katana's handle is a approximately 3/2 of Tsunande's length (or 2 meters).

A reasonable assumption would be that Gamabuta's katana has the same density as a regular katana.

So the formula is basically:

([Length of Gamabuta's katana]/[Length of a regular katana])^3 * [Density of a regular katana] = [Mass of Gamabunta's katana]

(2/.05)^3 * 2 = 250 000 kg (= 250 tons)

Raikage (Also known as "A"😉 seem to be more deadly than strong. He's as fast as the Yellow Flash, his lightning shield increases his defense and offense dramaticly and he's pretty powerful to begin with.

I'm going with Tsunsande for now (in terms of strength) based on the evidence for now. But I'm going to reserve judgement until I see the upper limits of A's strength.

While I love the fact that there is someone on here actually using their brain to figure shit out, you're numbers are way off, here, and the calculation isn't working for me, at all.

First, find the density of the handle. Then, find the density of the metal. Then, find the volume of the handle and complete blade.

Find the volume similar to how archimedes calculated a more precise version of pi: get more accurate with a geometric figure: in this instance, it would be a regular cuboid, then angle the edges off and recalculate volume, then add two edges to that one edge, and recalculate just the change in volume for the "right triangle" of the new sub-figure, and so forth.

This is similar to how you calculate your own volume in physics for some cool projects you can do in college.

Anywho, we can assume the handle is wood or a firm rock...we can do the calculation for both, actually.

As I don't feel like taking the time to draw this shizer out and do the trig for it, feel free.

Tell us what you come up with. If you need me to better explain what I mean, just send me a PM.

Then you could really find out what the mass is, which I think you were close with.

Originally posted by Q99
Also hypothetically, Tsunade could use her forehead-chakra to power any jutsu, including a strength-based one.

We've just happened to have only seen her use it for defensive jutsu, but if you think about it that chakra store is a major threat.

That, while interesting to watch, would be severely unnecessary as she's insanely strong already; unless she's up against something like a Tailed Beast, or a hypothetical Juubi-enhanced Madara and wants to punch them to Kingdom Come. ermm