Spiderman vs wolverine

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
FAIL. Hard surfaces alone can't break his hands, you need a hard surface + a=sufficient mass/force in order to do that. That's physics.

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I can break my hand if I hit a wall enough times with sufficient force.

Spider-Man is hitting a guy with indestructible skeleton here... and just so you know, he's already broken his hand that way.

Wolverine's taken full power punches from him with a smile on his face... now if you want to use real physics, he'd shatter all of his hand bones in the matter of seconds then.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Creed < Spiderman in strength, reflexes, and speed always has been, oh execpt when creed was given slightly stronger strength. 2 ton range is hardly class 10. When I say class 10 I mean 10 ton range. gtfoh

Heh. So you know nothing about Sabretooth either. He's not Class 2. Way above that. And when Logan stopped his punch, he was after his first upgrade.

Creed pinned Parker with no problem, by the way.

... omg. Venom is stronger than creed, Venom has pinned Spidey too. Really? you are not about to compare creed to venom now are you? what's the strongest Creed has gotten? in my research he went from max lifting 800 lbs to maxing 2 ton lift. Spidey's a 10 ton from the get go, and after his rebirth he's at class 15. Still faster, still stronger, and Wolvy is matched with Capn at peak human. don't tell me Wolvy is class 10 now. gtfo So I guess Spidey lifting Rhino, or the Thing (both much stronger than Creed ever got) means nothing right? No he just tossed Ben Grim like a bag of bricks... that's with his hands, not with webbing.

Like I said early. Bambam. Fight over.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Spidey's a 10 ton from the get go, and after his rebirth he's at class 15.

[QUOTE=12729462]Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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I can break my hand if I hit a wall enough times with sufficient force.

Spider-Man is hitting a guy with indestructible skeleton here... and just so you know, he's already broken his hand that way.

Ok, you need sufficient mass behind any object to be a threat. I'm sure a steel door has more mass and weight than your fist right? now, if it were the Hulk, ok, Spidey could break his hand. But Wolvy's head doesn't carry enough weight by itself, unless he threw his face into Spidey's punch... that would be bad for both of them. I mean, come on, Spidey can knock someone's head off without trying. A rienforced Steel door is nothing to Spidey's fists, so a head that weighs 20 lbs at max wouldn't do much harm.

The power and speed difference is too great. Reflexes are about the same, and that's giving Wolvy a LOT of credit. in terms of technique, ok, but if you can't land a proper hit on your target, then that's that, Spider Sting, Maximum Spider, Super web/uh I mean repeated grab/throw. GAME, SET, MATCH.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
... omg. Venom is stronger than creed, Venom has pinned Spidey too. Really? you are not about to compare creed to venom now are you? what's the strongest Creed has gotten? in my research he went from max lifting 800 lbs to maxing 2 ton lift. Spidey's a 10 ton from the get go, and after his rebirth he's at class 15. Still faster, still stronger, and Wolvy is matched with Capn at peak human. don't tell me Wolvy is class 10 now. gtfo So I guess Spidey lifting Rhino, or the Thing (both much stronger than Creed ever got) means nothing right? No he just tossed Ben Grim like a bag of bricks... that's with his hands, not with webbing.

Like I said early. Bambam. Fight over.

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Your "research"... oh dude... you're really cracking me up.

Creed's pushed his way through Forge's forcefield that could stop a full grown mad elephant charge. Wolverine v2 #90.

Thanks to One More Day Pete is at his classic levels again.

Neither Cap nor Logan are peak human.

You said that Logan even on his best day is nowhere near Class 10. I proved you wrong, like it or not... you can scream "GTFO!!!" all you want, it ain't helping your case. Just look out for the mods if you wanna keep it up... I'm not gonna report you though, don't worry.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Ok, you need sufficient mass behind any object to be a threat. I'm sure a steel door has more mass and weight than your fist right? now, if it were the Hulk, ok, Spidey could break his hand. But Wolvy's head doesn't carry enough weight by itself, unless he threw his face into Spidey's punch... that would be bad for both of them. I mean, come on, Spidey can knock someone's head off without trying. A rienforced Steel door is nothing to Spidey's fists, so a head that weighs 20 lbs at max wouldn't do much harm.

The power and speed difference is too great. Reflexes are about the same, and that's giving Wolvy a LOT of credit. in terms of technique, ok, but if you can't land a proper hit on your target, then that's that, Spider Sting, Maximum Spider, Super web/uh I mean repeated grab/throw. GAME, SET, MATCH.

Learn to quote properly.

Spidey's punch should send Hulk flying too, you realize that? It's comic books we're talking about here.

Bad for both of them? Logan would be all right, he takes much more powerful blows on a daily basis. But of course he wouldn't have to resort to such a silly tactic. And again, using real physics in a comic book fight? Warpath hurt himself on Wolverine's jaw. He's way stronger than Parker.

Parker's strength is no good against Wolverine. Speed difference ain't that big.

Giving Wolvie a lot of credit? He doesn't have Spider Sense warning him about every attack.

Spider Man's been hit by slower opponents.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
By feats Spidey is a good portion over 10 tons also over 15 and what do you mean by "rebirth"? The Other story arc? That got retconned sorry.

After Spidey went into a comma from being attacked by Morlun. He was stronger, faster, has heightened senses, fangs, and long poison tipped stingers that shoot out of his wrists.

But that was a momentary thing.

I don't know how to quote properly, I haven't been on this forum in years, so bite me, and I didn't think gtfoh was a bad term. I merely am saying, get outta here, that's some bull. lol

Creed isn't all that. stronger foes have fallen to Spidey, just because most of the time Spidey plays it safe and refuses to loose control and kill people doesn't make him a wussy, nor does it make him less powerful. I'm sorry, Spiderman is a superhero, not a cold blooded killer. I respect Logan and what he does, but him and his kind are constantly rode because he promises blood.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Spidey's punch should send Hulk flying too, you realize that? It's comic books we're talking about here.

Bad for both of them? Logan would be all right, he takes much more powerful blows on a daily basis. But of course he wouldn't have to resort to such a silly tactic. And again, using real physics in a comic book fight? Warpath hurt himself on Wolverine's jaw. He's way stronger than Parker.

Parker's strength is no good against Wolverine. Speed difference ain't that big.

Spider Man's been hit by slower opponents.

Weaker slower opponents have given Logan a run for his money. Stronger, faster opponents than Logan have fallen to Spidey.

Weaker ppl than Warpath have hit Logan and not cried about it.

Classic strength or not, they are still above Logan's class by far. Spidey can toss cars for fun while in a happy mood... Logan can't. Spidey can move more mass FACT. Logan would have a hard time hitting Spidey FACT. Logan is less agile and slower than Spidey FACT.

These arguments are interesting, because it's not about what we think in the end. You and I could be writers of Marvel tomorrow and write our own cross over stories. In your's you would ride Logan like everyone else does and make Spidey look like a puny 14 year old, even though by now he's a grown man. I'd write Spidey in his strengths and use his past experiences to show his maturaty and growth over the years and not allow him to be easily overshadowed by the killer, and have the two both look cool. I like Logan, I just think everyone rides his nutz since he has adimantium skeleton. Let's try this, take away the metal frame and see how well he does? or better yet, give Spidey an adimantium skeleton, and let's see who wins?

Regardless, a hard skull, Spidey's dealt with before, and Spidey is smart enough to think of tactical ways to defeat Wolvy without hitting him in the head, I mean he is smarter than Logan. There are always kicks as well.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
After Spidey went into a comma from being attacked by Morlun. He was stronger, faster, has heightened senses, fangs, and long poison tipped stingers that shoot out of his wrists.

We all read The Other. He no longer has these upgrades.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
But that was a momentary thing.

I don't know how to quote properly, I haven't been on this forum in years, so bite me, and I didn't think gtfoh was a bad term. I merely am saying, get outta here, that's some bull. lol

Ah, ok.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Creed isn't all that. stronger foes have fallen to Spidey, just because most of the time Spidey plays it safe and refuses to loose control and kill people doesn't make him a wussy, nor does it make him less powerful. I'm sorry, Spiderman is a superhero, not a cold blooded killer. I respect Logan and what he does, but him and his kind are constantly rode because he promises blood.

Same can be said about Creed. He's beaten Wendigo, for example.

In every fight they had, Tooth took hits from Parker with no problem and tagged him.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Weaker slower opponents have given Logan a run for his money. Stronger, faster opponents than Logan have fallen to Spidey.

I could switch their names in your post and that statement would still be correct, you know that? 😐

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Weaker ppl than Warpath have hit Logan and not cried about it.

You're right of course.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Classic strength or not, they are still above Logan's class by far. Spidey can toss cars for fun while in a happy mood... Logan can't. Spidey can move more mass FACT. Logan would have a hard time hitting Spidey FACT. Logan is less agile and slower than Spidey FACT.

Not that slower. Parker would be having a hard time dodging him if he was focused on that only, here he has to fight him back, too.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
These arguments are interesting, because it's not about what we think in the end. You and I could be writers of Marvel tomorrow and write our own cross over stories. In your's you would ride Logan like everyone else does and make Spidey look like a puny 14 year old, even though by now he's a grown man. I'd write Spidey in his strengths and use his past experiences to show his maturaty and growth over the years and not allow him to be easily overshadowed by the killer, and have the two both look cool. I like Logan, I just think everyone rides his nutz since he has adimantium skeleton. Let's try this, take away the metal frame and see how well he does? or better yet, give Spidey an adimantium skeleton, and let's see who wins?

Regardless, a hard skull, Spidey's dealt with before, and Spidey is smart enough to think of tactical ways to defeat Wolvy without hitting him in the head, I mean he is smarter than Logan. There are always kicks as well.

LOL! It's not about adamantium skeleton. But to answer your question...

Logan without adamantium and claws could still give Parker's a run for his money. He is one of the top martial artists on Marvel Earth.

Spidey with adamantium? How would he deal with pain and metal poisoning? 😗

Hypothetically speaking, if Spidey had it. I just think it's lame to go, "Adamantium skeleton > The universe!"

My point is, it doesn't make him invulnerable, just harder to KO or kill.

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Hypothetically speaking, if Spidey had it. I just think it's lame to go, "Adamantium skeleton > The universe!"

My point is, it doesn't make him invulnerable, just harder to KO or kill.

His healing factor repairs any internal damage which is a result of blunt force attacks pretty much instantaneously.

Adamantium doesn't absorb the force, it resists it. It's not vibranium.

PISless (hulk punch taking) wolverine can still be tied up and choked to brain death, spidey doesn't roll like that but he can still tie him up and hit him till he blacks out.

Spider-man's speed and spider-sense should give him the potential to capitalize on his ability to entangle with webbing here.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
PISless (hulk punch taking) wolverine can still be tied up and choked to brain death, spidey doesn't roll like that but he can still tie him up and hit him till he blacks out.

Spider-man's speed and spider-sense should give him the potential to capitalize on his ability to entangle with webbing here.

No webbing here 😛 And no claws.

f*cking stips

Logan can be KO'd. Lacks the speed and strength to KO Spidey. And oh, Spidey also has a 'berserker mode'. Amplify class 10x10... you get what happened to Rhino but worse.

Cap sent the spider on his butt and made him see stars with one punch. Parker : "Do you have pint sized nukes in those gloves?"

Repeated strikes from Logan`s adamantium fists would crack his skull and put him down.

Spidey`s "rage" is of the school yard variety.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Spidey with adamantium? How would he deal with pain and metal poisoning? 😗

Bullseye copes just fine, and he isn't superhuman. 💃

Lord darkwind did it and he only laced some of his bones not bonded..

anyways last i checked he also used some mystic herbs and prayers to his ancestors to help BE with the procedure which was done in his home which i think is pretty stupid and makes no sense iirc..

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Spidey with adamantium? How would he deal with pain and metal poisoning? 😗

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Logan can be KO'd. Lacks the speed and strength to KO Spidey. And oh, Spidey also has a 'berserker mode'. Amplify class 10x10... you get what happened to Rhino but worse.

Of course he can. But Class 10 punches just make him smile.

Lacks the speed? Parker initially thought he was faster than him, the speed difference really isn't big and Wolverine tagged him dozens of times.

Don't compare Peter's "Angry me!" to Wolverine's legendary berserker rage. Feats speak for themselves. And no, it won't make him Class 100 all of a sudden.

Rhino is a jobber and just so you know, Logan made a quick work of him, too.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Cap sent the spider on his butt and made him see stars with one punch. Parker : "Do you have pint sized nukes in those gloves?"

Repeated strikes from Logan`s adamantium fists would crack his skull and put him down.

Spidey`s "rage" is of the school yard variety.

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Wolverine flicked his finger and hurt him in American Son arc 😈

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Bullseye copes just fine, and he isn't superhuman. 💃

Bendis almost gave him a HF in The List. Look out for new handbooks 😂

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Creed < Spiderman in strength, reflexes, and speed always has been, oh execpt when creed was given slightly stronger strength. 2 ton range is hardly class 10. When I say class 10 I mean 10 ton range. gtfoh

Would you like to be directed to Creed's respect thread now or AFTER I begin the humilation?