2010 FIFA World Cup

Originally posted by lord xyz
You're not a good team. Messi will cut through your defense.

Unlike other apponents Germany won´t have 3 or 4 players on Messi when he´s on the ball, they´ll get the fast Philip Lahm to concentrate on Messi and try and go forward and score goals in a "attack is the best for of defence" sort of way.

Whether this tactic comes off is another thing, I think the team who manages to put away their chances will win this game.

I wonder if this will be the game where Maradonna throws a wobbler and does something unpredictable. Because lets face it, it´s only a matter of time before he does something daft.

It´s going to be entertaining one in many ways🙂

Originally posted by lord xyz
You're not a good team. Messi will cut through your defense.

I don't know, the German attack is very good at creating opportunities, though in most games they fail to put away 2 or 3 amazing chances. If they can keep that up and capitalize on them in the Argentina game they definitely have a chance, their defense is not great, but it's by no means bad, either.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You're not a good team. Messi will cut through your defense.

Originally posted by Slay
If Messi plays at his full potential. I haven't seen the Mexico game, but I haven't been as impressed with Messi this tournament.

What people forget is that it is a team game, if Messi pulls 3 or 4 players onto him this gives other players the chance to do damage and Argentina win the world cup then that won´t bother the Argentians methinks-.

If you watch how Messi controls the ball not matter how the pass or long ball comes, the way he passes it effectively not to mention the goals which came about due to his runs and shots on goal, poacher goals, then you have to be impressed.

Those who expect him to run past the whole apposing team and score 3 goals each game are dreamers and don´t know much about football imo.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
What people forget is that it is a team game, if Messi pulls 3 or 4 players onto him this gives other players the chance to do damage and Argentina win the world cup then that won´t bother the Argentians methinks-.

If you watch how Messi controls the ball not matter how the pass or long ball comes, the way he passes it effectively not to mention the goals which came about due to his runs and shots on goal, poacher goals, then you have to be impressed.

Those who expect him to run past the whole apposing team and score 3 goals each game are dreamers and don´t know much about football imo.

Also, I'm quite confident about my football knowledge.

Originally posted by Slay
You're right, but even when it comes to that he hasn't impressed me much. I've only seen two Argentina games this tournament, but whenever he got the ball, in those games, he seemed to just lose it except for that one shot against South Korea (I think) of which he managed to volley the rebound right on the post (which is very hard to do so accurately) which led to that Higuain tap in. I was much more impressed by Agüero when he came in for Messi that match.

Also, I'm quite confident about my football knowledge.

My "Those who expect him to run past the whole apposing team and score 3 goals each game are dreamers and don´t know much about football imo." comment wasn´t aimed at you, but more at the daft commentars on the TV who go on about "Messi hasn´t scored yet, disaster" sort of attitude.

So far it's seemed Messi has just lured defenders around him and assisted in goals, and to be fair, if all those defenders weren't on him, he'd be scoring the goals.

I think Greece had the best defense against Argentina which was making sure the ball doesn't go to Messi in the first place. Of course they lost, but for the majority of the game, Argentina didn't have that many chances until towards the end, when Messi finally broke free and caused shit.

But in the Mexico game, Messi just danced around defenders trying to tackle him, I think he took on 3 defenders easily and then took a shot on the edge of the penalty area, but it got saved.

Tbh, England easily overtook Germany's defense, like it was nothing, and we were horrible that game, except for Lampard and Ashley Cole. Argentina have been full form this tournament, and they have Messi.

Originally posted by lord xyz

.. we were horrible that game, except for Lampard and Ashley Cole. ....

And Gerrard? he was the best England player imo, fighting and pushing like a true captain. Lampard did well but can´t say Ashley Cole was any good, after all he´s a left back and where was he went the goals were scored? Worse still where the hell was John Terry, the "world class" defender🙂🙂 ?

I recon some internal conflict between players or even the manager and players may have has something to do with the pathetic performance.

Oh well it´s over now, will be forgotten and the same will happen again in 2 years if we qualify for the European countrys cup.

Time to move on and I think I´ll support Uruguay now. I like their kit, (reminds me of the sea), with Forlan and Suarez are two hungry players who are enjoying the challenge. And they arn´t favourites to win the title🙂

It's true about Germany's defence though. I was never impressed by Arne Friedrich in the first place, Mertesacker has been out of shape for seasons now, Lahm was very disappointing defensively and Boateng is just not a back.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
And Gerrard? he was the best England player imo, fighting and pushing like a true captain.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Lampard did well but can´t say Ashley Cole was any good, after all he´s a left back and where was he went the goals were scored? Worse still where the hell was John Terry, the "world class" defender🙂🙂 ?

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I recon some internal conflict between players or even the manager and players may have has something to do with the pathetic performance.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Oh well it´s over now, will be forgotten and the same will happen again in 2 years if we qualify for the European countrys cup.

Time to move on and I think I´ll support Uruguay now. I like their kit, (reminds me of the sea), with Forlan and Suarez are two hungry players who are enjoying the challenge. And they arn´t favourites to win the title🙂

Come on, Holland, you can do it!!!! ha-son

Oh, seems like they can.

They're the dirtiest of the dirty though, how that Dutch didn't get a red-card for an intentional kick/provocation is beyond me.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're the dirtiest of the dirty though, how that Dutch didn't get a red-card for an intentional kick/provocation is beyond me.

Well, Brazil are not the fairest either with their Karate Kids and Judo Throws.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, Brazil are not the fairest either with their Karate Kids and Judo Throws.

Yeah; not as bad though and they did get a red-card recently. Ref isn't being equal.

This is a great game haha. Brazil is scared shittless.

Dunga to be sacked by the morning.

So, Holland's likely in the final.

Originally posted by lord xyz

Oh come on, if I'm rooting for your country at least you could.

It has slipped my mind which country your from?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, seems like they can.

the Netherlands should have scored 2 more goals though near the end with Kuyt and then 3 players in the Brazilian box against the goaly and didn´t score.

All players obviously give their all though, they looked knackered at the end.

Robben was brilliant, causing absolute mayhem. Ok he falls too easy some times.

Now the knives are out for Dunga "why did you leave Pato, Ronaldino etc behind", "Why are we playing like europeans".

Originally posted by Bicnarok
It has slipped my mind which country your from?

He's English. I don't quite get it either. He said he's rooting for the Dutch....are you Dutch?