Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Could go either way, imo. Lately, Thor's feats haven't been OMGWTF great, but that doesn't discount his feats he has under his belt in the past. I personally don't subscribe to the idea that Current Thor can't use Classic Thor's feats based on what he has done recently since his return (it's not like Classic Thor is "Pre-Crisis" Thor or anything retarded like that). That being said Majestic has the superior speed, intelligence, and fighting skills to score more than his fair share of wins against Thor.I'll side with Thor for a slight majority.
The way I see it, Thor's kind of the comic book equivalent of the "glass cannon".. He can beat just about anyone with his powers, but he can be beaten by far lesser powers than he's capable of outputting...
In this case, he's going to be too busy trying to shake off Majestic and keep conscious to actually use those powers.
Originally posted by Starscream M
only when they dont use superspeed...and they were not bloodlusted
Well, a blood lusted Gladiator with prep time from the future only did well against Thor because he attacked him as Jake Olsen and tried to take a civilian hostage in the process. Without the 60 second hammer rule, which has since been rendered null, Gladiator would have been wrecked early on. And sure enough, once Olsen turned back into Thor, he beat the shit of Glads.
Thor deals with varying levels of both superspeed and bloodlusted opponents and quite well. I don't see how you can dispute that much.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, a blood lusted Gladiator with prep time from the future only did well against Thor because he attacked him as Jake Olsen and tried to take a civilian hostage in the process. Without the 60 second hammer rule, which has since been rendered null, Gladiator would have been wrecked early on. And sure enough, once Olsen turned back into Thor, he beat the shit of Glads.Thor deals with varying levels of both superspeed and bloodlusted opponents and quite well. I don't see how you can dispute that much.
Actually, what happened vs future Glads was, Gladiator ended up knocking outpacing Thor, and eventually knocking Thor out, and THAN he changed back into Jake. Otherwise, Thor could've just walked out of that fire.. (Unless you think it took him over 60 seconds to fly into that burning building.)
And the only reason Thor beat down Glads, was because Gladiator was distracted from helping Thor save a load of people. He got blindsided.
Originally posted by cdtm
Actually, what happened vs future Glads was, Gladiator ended up knocking outpacing Thor, and eventually knocking Thor out, and THAN he changed back into Jake. Otherwise, Thor could've just walked out of that fire.. (Unless you think it took him over 60 seconds to fly into that burning building.)And the only reason Thor beat down Glads, was because Gladiator was distracted from helping Thor save a load of people. He got blindsided.
The point is Glad's advantage through that whole fight was based on him jumping Thor while bloodlusted while Thor didn't know what the hell was going on. And that's to say nothing of Mandy's presence, either. A lot of people use that feat as something to hype Glads over Thor with, but with context, it's not the clean "victory" people think it is.
And blindsided? Thor clearly states that he's about to kick Glads ass after they rescue the plane from crashing. He blasts him once into a car, which Gladiator gets right back to his feet, ready to fight some more. Thor then presses his advantage and clearly states "I can hold back no longer!" as he smashes Mjolnir into Glad's face repeatedly.
Thor held his own against a Gladiator with plenty of circumstances going against his favor such as Mandy being present, the 60 second rule in effect, not knowing why Gladiator was trying to kill him, etc. And as soon as he stopped holding back, he beat his ass.