Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The point is Glad's advantage through that whole fight was based on him jumping Thor while bloodlusted while Thor didn't know what the hell was going on. And that's to say nothing of Mandy's presence, either. A lot of people use that feat as something to hype Glads over Thor with, but with context, it's not the clean "victory" people think it is.And blindsided? Thor clearly states that he's about to kick Glads ass after they rescue the plane from crashing. He blasts him once into a car, which Gladiator gets right back to his feet, ready to fight some more. Thor then presses his advantage and clearly states "I can hold back no longer!" as he smashes Mjolnir into Glad's face repeatedly.
Thor held his own against a Gladiator with plenty of circumstances going against his favor such as Mandy being present, the 60 second rule in effect, not knowing why Gladiator was trying to kill him, etc. And as soon as he stopped holding back, he beat his ass.
A blast from Thor isn't something you're just going to shake off... At the least, I think Glads was stunned.
I'll have to look back at the initial fight between Glads and Thor, but as I remember it Thor was taken by surprise, but the bulk of Glads advantage came after Thor had time to get his defenses up and knew who he was facing.
Anyways, it's not Thors ability to hurt Glads that I'm questioning. No doubt, Thor can mess Gladiator, or Majestic, up.
What I am questioning is whether Thor has the high speedster level reflexes some are arguing. While my knowledge of Thor isn't extensive, I enjoyed the Simonson run like everyone else, and have seen my share of issues.. And the ftl seems invested in the hammer, no in the weilder.
It's hard to even argue that Thor steers the thing, since it has proven self guiding capabilties.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Like what?
Smashing planets with his bare hands, durability enough to take a shot from depowered Tyrant, and speed fast enough to travel around the universe under his own power (Plus, there was an issue where Gladiator was moving around normally against the Fantastic Four when time was seriously slowed down in the area... I forget the issue off hand though. Only seen scans of the feat.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Smashing planets with his bare hands, durability enough to take a shot from depowered Tyrant, and speed fast enough to travel around the universe under his own power (Plus, there was an issue where Gladiator was moving around normally against the Fantastic Four when time was seriously slowed down in the area... I forget the issue off hand though. Only seen scans of the feat.)
He punched the planet and caused chain-reactions to go off within it that resulted in its destruction. He didn't smash the planet with his bare hands anymore than Nova beat the Sphinx in a power struggle.
I've never seen the Tyrant encounter. Why only one shot?
Entering hyperspace is not a speed feat, certainly not one that can be applied to a battle.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
He punched the planet and caused chain-reactions to go off within it that resulted in its destruction. He didn't smash the planet with his bare hands anymore than Nova beat the Sphinx in a power struggle.I've never seen the Tyrant encounter. Why only one shot?
Entering hyperspace is not a speed feat, certainly not one that can be applied to a battle.
Show me this chain reaction or when it was ever stated that it was a chain reaction. From what I saw, he literally crushed the planet with his fist.
Tyrant was one shotting everyone but failed to drop Gladiator.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Entering hyperspace is not a speed feat, certainly not one that can be applied to a battle.
He's also been clocked at well past 100x lightspeed, in at least two seperate occasions..
As for the Tyrant thing, like Carver said, Tyrant was steamrolling a group of cosmic folk, including Jack of Hearts, Beta Ray Bill, Morg, and Terrax (Although Terrax and Morg spent half the time fighting each other.)
Gladiator takes a point blank attack from Tyrant, and it makes him angry.. So Tyrant hits him a few more times. Only Surfer put in a better durability showing.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Same way's he tagged other people "far faster" than him. His respect thread is filled with plenty of feats warranting his reflexes and speed output being high enough to tag people with superspeed explicitly greater than his own.Why? Do you not think Thor stands a chance in hell here, then?
Starscream likes making threads where Thor doesn't stand a chance. I think he really dislike him...
Anyways, majestic for the majority IMO
Originally posted by amnesia
Starscream likes making threads where Thor doesn't stand a chance. I think he really dislike him...Anyways, majestic for the majority IMO
It is kind of odd making a fight you think is so one sided, you're certain there's no room for debate...
Yeah, that's the definition of spite.
Originally posted by Starscream MBloodlust is a minor difference. Plus there's this...
those threads are different...my thread has both bloodlusted...also my thread has pretty pictures.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Same way's he tagged other people "far faster" than him. His respect thread is filled with plenty of feats warranting his reflexes and speed output being high enough to tag people with superspeed explicitly greater than his own.Why? Do you not think Thor stands a chance in hell here, then?
Originally posted by Starscream M
not a chance in hell. Majestic absolutely destroys thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So is this spite then?