Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thor was weakened, and he was just beating them.
Thor wasnt killed via exhaustion. His durability was overcome so that doesnt factor into it that much.
Also Sentry was fighting as well. He was involved in the main attack, he had a confrontation with Ares, a battle with Thor and then went on to destroy Asgard and take on the heroes. So you could argue he wasnt 100%
Regardless, Thor isnt an energy being whose durability is bolstered by his energy reserves and stamina to my knowledge. As such his durability being straight up overrided and him getting killed cannot be overlooked because Thor was tired. Sentry had been fighting for a prolonged period to. Furthermore the attack which killed Thor wasnt even focused on Thor specifically, it was an all out attack on all of the heroes. Multiple of which were powerhouses who are referenced as nigh invulnerable. Thats testament to his power.
A one on one battle where Sentry goes all out with such power on Thor and its clear who will be the victor the majority of the time.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thor wasnt killed via exhaustion. His durability was overcome so that doesnt factor into it that much.Also Sentry was fighting as well. He was involved in the main attack, he had a confrontation with Ares, a battle with Thor and then went on to destroy Asgard and take on the heroes. So you could argue he wasnt 100%
Regardless, Thor isnt an energy being whose durability is bolstered by his energy reserves and stamina to my knowledge. As such his durability being straight up overrided and him getting killed cannot be overlooked because Thor was tired. Sentry had been fighting for a prolonged period to. Furthermore the attack which killed Thor wasnt even focused on Thor specifically, it was an all out attack on all of the heroes. Multiple of which were powerhouses who are referenced as nigh invulnerable. Thats testament to his power.
A one on one battle where Sentry goes all out with such power on Thor and its clear who will be the victor the majority of the time.
Thor took everything that several villains could deal out to him (including several guys who have beaten the Hulk one on one. Like X-ray who burned off the flesh of the Hulk and left him a smoldering green heap.) He also took 2 cheap shots from the Sentry.
Originally posted by keiththegreatThat was Vector
Thor took everything that several villains could deal out to him (including several guys who have beaten the Hulk one on one. Like X-ray who burned off the flesh of the Hulk and left him a smoldering green heap.) He also took 2 cheap shots from the Sentry.
Originally posted by keiththegreatAnd Sentry just stood there and let Thor hit him twice, if Loki hadnt used the Norn stones to save Thor(and the heroes) he would have been done for. Thor was on his knees at the Voids Mercy once the Void released his "shadow energy" on everyone.
Thor took everything that several villains could deal out to him (including several guys who have beaten the Hulk one on one. Like X-ray who burned off the flesh of the Hulk and left him a smoldering green heap.) He also took 2 cheap shots from the Sentry.
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor took everything that several villains could deal out to him (including several guys who have beaten the Hulk one on one. Like X-ray who burned off the flesh of the Hulk and left him a smoldering green heap.) He also took 2 cheap shots from the Sentry.
Sentry was fighting for a prolonged period to so one could argue his available resources were less and yet he still had the energy to overcome the durability of multiple power sources just like that. When he'd had enough and decided to just take out the heroes he did so easily.
After prolonged periods of output and taking damage from Ares and Thor going all out, Sentry took on all the heroes and one shotted them all overcoming multiple powerhouses in one attack.
A Void going all out and focused specifically on Thor would no doubt win the majority.
Originally posted by GalacticStormThor was weakened because he was beaten on by all the villians in Seige. That kind of has a huge effect on everything.
Thor wasnt killed via exhaustion. His durability was overcome so that doesnt factor into it that much.Also Sentry was fighting as well. He was involved in the main attack, he had a confrontation with Ares, a battle with Thor and then went on to destroy Asgard and take on the heroes. So you could argue he wasnt 100%
Regardless, Thor isnt an energy being whose durability is bolstered by his energy reserves and stamina to my knowledge. As such his durability being straight up overrided and him getting killed cannot be overlooked because Thor was tired. Sentry had been fighting for a prolonged period to. Furthermore the attack which killed Thor wasnt even focused on Thor specifically, it was an all out attack on all of the heroes. Multiple of which were powerhouses who are referenced as nigh invulnerable. Thats testament to his power.
A one on one battle where Sentry goes all out with such power on Thor and its clear who will be the victor the majority of the time.
You could argue that, but it wasn't said on panel, and it would kind of defeat "I can just heal from anything".
Also, Void never killed Thor. He was beating him along with other heroes, but he never killed him. Unless you have a panel saying he killed Thor of course.
Originally posted by 753
what difference does any of it make? story made it clear that void > everyone else in the battlefield. it was big point in it.
Originally posted by 753
IIRC thor was restored by the norn stones and was still getting his ass kicked.
I don't get how you could have gotten that out of anything. Unless you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who skimmed over the description of what happened the day before it came out.
Originally posted by Sr J-Biebyou mean your interpretation of context that ignores the fact that void was shown as stronger than thor from the get go? or the build up to siege with the morgan lafey, molecule mand and suicide atempt in the sun feats? how's that for context?
[B]Good point. Context is shit.
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I don't get how you could have gotten that out of anything. Unless you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who skimmed over the description of what happened the day before it came out.
Originally posted by 753So, how is my "interpretation" if I'm right?
you mean your interpretation of context that ignores the fact that void was shown as stronger than thor from the get go? or the build up to siege with the morgan lafey, molecule mand and suicide atempt in the sun feats? how's that for context?
Void being actually stronger than Thor is irrelevant. And also only shown when I was trying to explain the scene of why Thor was laying on the ground.
The build up to Seige is well... can you explain how that's relevant to Sentry fighting a weakened Thor? I'm honestly quite curious as to how this fits in with Sentry beating up weakened Thor, and how that constitutes as context.
I never said Thor would beat Sentry or Sentry would beat Thor, I just stated the context of what happened when Sentry had Thor on the floor.
I feel I should state that since you're talking about... something else entirely I'm sure.
Originally posted by 753Apparently not.
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Originally posted by Sr J-Biebit's all this comes down to. so what if thor was weakened? we know for a fact that void was a tier at least above him so it doesnt change the outcome of this fight at all.
All I did IYO was leave stuff out... stuff that has nothing to do with anything about that battle at all. 😂
Void being actually stronger than Thor is irrelevant. And also only shown when I was trying to explain the scene of why Thor was laying on the ground.
because the molecule man who is orders of magnitude above thor was defeated by void. it's not context for this fight, it stablishes a power level for sentry that makes it crystal clear that thor's state was irrelevant to the outcome
The build up to Seige is well... can you explain how that's relevant to Sentry fighting a weakened Thor? I'm honestly quite curious as to how this fits in with Sentry beating up weakened Thor, and how that constitutes as context.
genuinely sorry about the mix up. let me rephrase: it makes no difference that thor was weakened in that circumstance as the power gap was clearly enough for sentry to floor thor anyways
I never said Thor would beat Sentry or Sentry would beat Thor, I just stated the context of what happened when Sentry had Thor on the floor.
I feel I should state that since you're talking about... something else entirely I'm sure.
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Apparently not. [/B]
Originally posted by 753Just because ABC logic makes Void look above him, that doesn't mean Thor can't give him a good fight. And it also doesn't mean that any fights Void won are relevant to GS's question about Void 'killing Thor', and me giving context to it.
it's all this comes down to. so what if thor was weakened? we know for a fact that void was a tier at least above him so it doesnt change the outcome of this fight at all.
because the molecule man who is orders of magnitude above thor was defeated by void. it's not context for this fight, it stablishes a power level for sentry that makes it crystal clear that thor's state was irrelevant to the outcome
genuinely sorry about the mix up. let me rephrase: it makes no difference that thor was weakened in that circumstance as the power gap was clearly enough for sentry to floor thor anyways
And obviously Thor's state was relevant when he smacked around Void when he was at full power... in the same issue... under the same writer... I mean the issue itself goes against that. I don't know what else to say about that. The writer himself made it relevant.
Yup, I'm sorry about your mix up as well. If I could go back and edit it out, I would.
Originally posted by 753I knew you didn't read it. srug
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