black adam vs. apocalypse

Started by TheTyrant11 pages
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow for a second there I thought you were describing Apoc. But since Apoc as seen in comics clearly isn't nearly as powerful/threatening as your description there I'll assume you're talking about someone else. 🙄

Are you seriously giving us that bull shit? Hmmkay, Flash barely fights at FTL speeds in actual comics, so then Flash can't hit FTL in a fight, because that's how he is portrayed as.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Are you seriously giving us that bull shit? Hmmkay, Flash barely fights at FTL speeds in actual comics, so then Flash can't go hit FTL in a fight, because that's how he is portrayed as.

Flash has numerous examples of going FTL whereas the "Apoc can become hard as adamantium" is mere speculation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No CIS no PIS actually benefits BA more because it means he goes for the kill right away and doesn't fool around.

Apoc has never fought any flying brick on BA's level and won and has nothing in his arsenal that can take BA for the majority. Most of his powers you discuss are speculation and conjecture. You can't use the No PIS thing to extrapolate power that has never been shown before, only to rule out low showings against higher showings.

Apoc has portrayed all of those abilities. And he has fought people more powerful than Adam and has managed to hold his own against them.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apoc has portrayed all of those abilities. And he has fought people more powerful than Adam and has managed to hold his own against them.

Not to the extent that they can secure victory over Adam. Exageration is the name of the Apoc-fanboy's game.

High Evolutionary? Loki?

Personally I wouldn't say HE is all that powerful and I'd give BA the majority over Loki in a prepless encounter.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Flash has numerous examples of going FTL whereas the "Apoc can become hard as adamantium" is mere speculation.

When he has changed his body into various kinds of metals? If Apoc has studied adamantium(which he has) then he can turn into adamantium, because it is one of his powers. He is the best shapeshifter in comics after all.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
When he has changed his body into various kinds of metals? If Apoc has studied adamantium(which he has) then he can turn into adamantium, because it is one of his powers. He is the best shapeshifter in comics after all.

Speculation. Don't project feats, its asinine even for you.

For those who say Flash (the same goes for BA) cannot fight or go FTL should read the damn rules about fights on KMC.

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not to the extent that they can secure victory over Adam. Exageration is the name of the Apoc-fanboy's game.

High Evolutionary? Loki?

Personally I wouldn't say HE is all that powerful and I'd give BA the majority over Loki in a prepless encounter.

No PIS so what if a writer wrote Poccy losing to particular characters. A girl with Squirrel agility beat Thanos......so what?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not to the extent that they can secure victory over Adam. Exageration is the name of the Apoc-fanboy's game.

High Evolutionary? Loki?

Personally I wouldn't say HE is all that powerful and I'd give BA the majority over Loki in a prepless encounter.

He has easily defeated Exodus(who might be able to mindrape Adam), Jean Grey(who WILL be able to mindrape Adam), Iceman(at his full potential he can win against Adam), Ikaris(atleast a Wonder Woman level character), Avengers(decent line-up), etc.

Originally posted by the ninjak
No PIS so what if a writer wrote Poccy losing to particular characters. A girl with Squirrel agility beat Thanos......so what?

No PIS can't be used to apply a higher power level to a character than what has actually been shown. Would no PIS/CIS make Rhino more formidable? Yes. But not to the extent that he could take Doomsday. The same applies here.

No PIS/CIS takes away the "Apoc gets hit by a table" argument but it doesn't demonstrate that Apoc wins here.

Scans or issue numbers of Apoc turning into AD or as hard as.

Where are they?

Originally posted by The Nuul
For those who say Flash (the same goes for BA) cannot fight or go FTL should read the damn rules about fights on KMC.

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Then that means Apocalypse uses ALL of his powers in actual combat. One of his powers is to become as strong as he wants to become(which is true) in any and every fight.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He has easily defeated Exodus(who might be able to mindrape Adam), Jean Grey(who WILL be able to mindrape Adam), Iceman(at his full potential he can win against Adam), Ikaris(atleast a Wonder Woman level character), Avengers(decent line-up), etc.

You realize how hard it is to mind-rape a Marvel right?

Did he actually defeat FULL POTENTIAL Iceman?

Ikaris is like a Mid Herald. 😬

Name the Avengers lineup, because Black Adam has given strong JLA teams serious trouble and if we count his feats from WW3 can take on multiple teams at once.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
One of his powers is to become as strong as he wants to become(which is true) in any and every fight.

Bullshit.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Bullshit.

Tyrant's Apoc has no limits. His power is Maximum. durlaugh

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Tyrant's Apoc has no limits. His power is Maximum. durlaugh

Sounds a lot like Manxs Orion or Shoko Supes.

Only Broly's power is maximum.

Apocalypse can become as big as he wants to become, and the larger he becomes, the stronger he becomes.

So basically, Apoc becomes 10000ft tall(which he has before) and flicks Adam into space. Or just teleports on top of him 😐

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Only Broly's power is maximum.

Apocalypse can become as big as he wants to become, and the larger he becomes, the stronger he becomes.

So basically, Apoc becomes 10000ft tall(which he has before) and flicks Adam into space. Or just teleports on top of him 😐


Until he actually reaches that size its just speculation.

Teleporting? Wow how many times do we have to beat the "his shitty teleporting isn't a end-all-be-all forum win tactic" horse?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Until he actually reaches that size its just speculation.

Teleporting? Wow how many times do we have to beat the "his shitty teleporting isn't a end-all-be-all forum win tactic" horse?

http://img189.imageshack.us/i/1200066apocalypse.jpg/

/thread.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
http://img189.imageshack.us/i/1200066apocalypse.jpg/

/thread.


That's maybe several hundred feet, a thousand at best. And there's no indication of how strong he is.
I agree on the /thread, but not in Apoc's favor. /thread because Apoc supporters don't have a leg to stand on.