The Heroic Age

Started by Battlehammer11 pages

I actaully think they may a lot of senses given the context. Prior to capt death he and spiderman ahd grown closes. He also made several refferrences of believing spiderman was underrated by the super hero community and was A class player. Him being put on the main team now that Capt himself gets to pick the team makes a lot of senses.

Wolverine being picked makes lots of senses given what has gone down, if anything with the whole secret invasion event and dark riegn, proves that Iron man was right that a team needs some one who will do what the other avengers can't or won't.

Originally posted by Bentley
Moondragon? Sersi?

I'm talking about the current lineup. Clearly there have been other Avengers whose powers don't overlap with the current team. But the lineups are immaterial; the point was that we can't judge a team by power sets and levels or else the lowest bracket would always come out as being worthless. For example: Power-wise, what does Bucky bring to the team that any of the others can't replicate? It's futile to follow such thinking, because if we take it seriously it destroys the concept of the team, and ignores Bucky's role outside of power considerations.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
this was true well over a year ago.

Logan which people seem unable to grasp or notice was only on two teams for the last two years. New avengers and x-force. x-force is not even a full time, team it simply special opt team for extreme events. He was also a member of new avengers which was another haft time gig.

His appearances don't lie. He's been the most often-used character in marvel over the last 5 years. With good reason, mind you, because he sells. But when the characters in the Marvel U are actually making jokes at his expense about how much he gets around to the different events, teams, etc. it's all the confirmation that's needed.

You follow him as much as anyone, and more than most, so you know exactly how much we've seen of him.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I actaully think they may a lot of senses given the context. Prior to capt death he and spiderman ahd grown closes. He also made several refferrences of believing spiderman was underrated by the super hero community and was A class player. Him being put on the main team now that Capt himself gets to pick the team makes a lot of senses.

Wolverine being picked makes lots of senses given what has gone down, if anything with the whole secret invasion event and dark riegn, proves that Iron man was right that a team needs some one who will do what the other avengers can't or won't.

People seemed to misunderstand my earlier comment about SM. Everyone sees him as A-list, even the heroes. I don't dispute that. Pete's character, however, has never put him in the limelight with these types of heroes. He's looked down upon by society, always sh*t out of luck, etc. Being so lauded with the world's premiere super team doesn't jive with that. He's also, for lack of a better term, a solo act. Even Wolverine, the other big draw, has an origin and history of being on teams. The others have had solo books in the past as well, but we see them as Avengers first (IM, Cap, Hawkeye, etc.).

In other words, if Sesame Street's "One of These Things Is Not Like the Other..." song was playing as I perused the current lineup, I think it would settle on Pete before the others.

i'd like to see vision and wanda back on the team

@Digi

I think the current line-up is weak relatively speaking (two streetlevelers, Spidey and Wolvie) until they add the new Noh-Varr. I think there was more credit with characters with added flexibility such as SW, Quicksilver, Vision or stuff. Having Thor to be both your powerhouse and your magic specialist is kind of iffy given that it's supposed to be Marvel's best.

I agree though that teams shouldn't be considered only by powerlevels alone, but powersets should play some sort of part in the inclusion.

i just picked up my reserves at my shop and Avengers were on that list...at first i kinda thought meh...but the ending kinda pulled me in...makes me think this could turn out to be pretty interesting

The new Thunderbolts looks awesome. I love juggy 🙂

Originally posted by Starscream M
The new Thunderbolts looks awesome. I love juggy 🙂

i will be reading that one later

I hope that the Avengers titles can reach that same level of awesome that Busiek and Perez were able to tap into...

The Avengers remaineing roster most likely look like Thor, Captain America, spider -woman, hawk eye, Iron Man, Captain Marvel-Noh varr, Wonder Man this might be the line up by issue 3 or 4. Your goona need extra muscle to deal with Maestro Hulk.

I also hope Spidey and Logan move from the main roster to the New Avengers one.

Who wants to take bets that we're going to get a Wonderman vs Thor fight sometime soon?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I hope that the Avengers titles can reach that same level of awesome that Busiek and Perez were able to tap into...

👆

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Who wants to take bets that we're going to get a Wonderman vs Thor fight sometime soon?

Avengers 2 I guess...

Simon and Thor should have a decent scuffle.

maybe this fight restores him to his proper place

Looking forward to their fight.

Bendis better handle that as it should go, i.e. Wonder Man being a nuisance then being put down unless he gets a boost. His stock has dropped to the point it would just be embarassing to Thor. However Bendis did have it being stated that Simon was as powerful as the Sentry or something similar back in the day so who knows....

Thor shouldn't have a everyday role on the Avengers. It just won't work in my opinion unless Thor gets downgraded like Juggernaut has for Thunderbolts.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bendis better handle that as it should go, i.e. Wonder Man being a nuisance then being put down unless he gets a boost. His stock has dropped to the point it would just be embarassing to Thor. However Bendis did have it being stated that Simon was as powerful as the Sentry or something similar back in the day so who knows....

Thor shouldn't have a everyday role on the Avengers. It just won't work in my opinion unless Thor gets downgraded like Juggernaut has for Thunderbolts.

Juggy got downgraded? 🙁 Sorry, I haven't read latest T-Bolts. Just say yes or no.

Well, there is a reason people on forums specify "Avengers Thor" in vs threads... 😉

Maybe Wonder Man will have help? Or Thor will be absent? Who knows...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Juggy got downgraded? 🙁 Sorry, I haven't read latest T-Bolts. Just say yes or no.

yes he is weaker

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I also hope Spidey and Logan move from the main roster to the New Avengers one.

Agree'ed

While i liked the original New Avengers and spider-man i just would like a replacement for wolvie and spider-man and wolverine(to a lesser extentlol)....Id like them to be replaced by someone who hasn't had a bunch of face time lately.