NESTS VS Akuma

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Then, can I also say the same thing with Takuma, Chang, and Choi? 😐

All of those dudes have been shown to be unable to summon that kind of power in canon. Meaning, they have been overwhelmed by alot less.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Because the characters ARE NOT together with him, except in Ikari Warriors and Kyo team.

They don't even cut away to show his body like they do in the non canon endings.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
The SFA movie doesn't take place before SF4 (SFA is. But not the movie). Besides, the way they fight is different if you look at both movies.

The movie is based on a game that takes place years before SFIV.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Alternate timeline, true. but if you know SNK's habit, there's a different timeline like FF-AOF timeline, KOF-FF timeline and now, we have KOF-KOF MI timeline. So far, Terry's power in KOF-FF timeline is the same with the AOF-FF timeline and no one doubting about it except (maybe) you. KOF-KOF MI timeline is like the same like these timeline. That doesn't make any differences, and event from KOF XI also involved in this anime.

FF and AOF take place in the same universe as KOF. Prove to me that KOFMI takes place in the same universe as the original KOF. KOFMI is to KOF what SFEX is to SF. When in KOFXI did anyone refer to the events of KOFMI?

Originally posted by No End N Site

All of those dudes have been shown to be unable to summon that kind of power in canon. Meaning, they have been overwhelmed by alot less.

Nope. these people has no feats. But suddenly :

1. Takuma diverted the Zero cannon beam. Means he must have enough power to do so.

2. Chang and Choi blasted by the Zero cannon beam. They were charred black and still alive.

Originally posted by No End N Site They don't even cut away to show his body like they do in the non canon endings.

None of those characters are talking to Zero at that time... and, they were already in different places after the explosion occurred. Besides, Clone Zero was vaporized by the blast is unproven. No scene like when Omega Rugal self destructed to point that Zero was vaporized.

Originally posted by No End N Site The movie is based on a game that takes place years before SFIV.

SFA movie is a completely different universe with completely different story, and different fighting capabilities. Besides, we already have new canon source. Why would you use the non-canon one?

Originally posted by No End N Site FF and AOF take place in the same universe as KOF. Prove to me that KOFMI takes place in the same universe as the original KOF. KOFMI is to KOF what SFEX is to SF. When in KOFXI did anyone refer to the events of KOFMI?

Saying AOF and FF has the same universe means you lack of knowledge about SNK timeline. Ryo saved Yuri in AOF timeline around 1970, while in FF timeline, Ryo saved Yuri around 1990. The fact that Kyo knows Ash, Iori's power stolen, SNK supervised the anime and put it on their official site, are enough proof that the anime is canon. yeah, maybe the timeline is different but, it's still shows canon ability.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

Saying AOF and FF has the same universe means you lack of knowledge about SNK timeline. Ryo saved Yuri in AOF timeline around 1970, while in FF timeline, Ryo saved Yuri around 1990. The fact that Kyo knows Ash, Iori's power stolen, SNK supervised the anime and put it on their official site, are enough proof that the anime is canon. yeah, maybe the timeline is different but, it's still shows canon ability.

There are various timelines by SNK, all are canon, but only in their respective verse. But still, feats in all the timelines should be canon, since SNK considers them canon.

ie.
KoF canon = Geese is alive
FF canon = Geese is dead
But Geese's feats in both timelines should be considered when he used in debates.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Nope. these people has no feats. But suddenly :

1. Takuma diverted the Zero cannon beam. Means he must have enough power to do so.

In canon, Takuma couldn't even fend off Yamazaki or Eiji Kisaragi in later KOFs and couldn't even beat Geese back in the AOF days. But way back in 2000 in a non canon ending, he can divert a city bustin' beam? Common sense.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
2. Chang and Choi blasted by the Zero cannon beam. They were charred black and still alive.

Obviously a joke. Chang and Choi have been defeated by much less.

These powers they display in this 1 ending clearly contradict their 'real' power levels in the actual story. And I said I was not sure about the history of Bao, so I could be wrong about him actually being capable of such power.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
None of those characters are talking to Zero at that time... and, they were already in different places after the explosion occurred. Besides, Clone Zero was vaporized by the blast is unproven. No scene like when Omega Rugal self destructed to point that Zero was vaporized.

I say he was vaped. You can not prove he was not, in canon. He looks like he's bein' vaped to me and until you show me his body after K''s ending, then I will continue to think so.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
SFA movie is a completely different universe with completely different story, and different fighting capabilities. Besides, we already have new canon source. Why would you use the non-canon one?

The movie is OFFICIALLY stated to represent how the Alpha versions (young versions) of how the characters would fight. And the characters don't have different fighting capabilities and I'm not usin' the movie as canon, it's not. But the abilities shown are, that's official.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Saying AOF and FF has the same universe means you lack of knowledge about SNK timeline. Ryo saved Yuri in AOF timeline around 1970, while in FF timeline, Ryo saved Yuri around 1990. The fact that Kyo knows Ash, Iori's power stolen, SNK supervised the anime and put it on their official site, are enough proof that the anime is canon. yeah, maybe the timeline is different but, it's still shows canon ability.

AOF and FF take place before KOF in the same universe as KOF. SNK has never tried to repair and make sense of the plot holes in the time lines. KOFMI may have similar events take place but that doesn't mean anything and you have yet to show me any statements provin' this. In the Marvel VS Capcom series, Ryu get's his head band from Ken and Ryu still has a grudge with Akuma after their 1st battle in Alpha 2. Does that mean Marvel VS Capcom shows canon ability now? In CFE Chun Li mentions the canon events that took place in SFII to Bison and her ending represents SFIII canon, does that mean that that game represents canon ability? The company behind these works have to say it does, you can't just assume and imply it.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
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There are various timelines by SNK, all are canon, but only in their respective verse. But still, feats in all the timelines should be canon, since SNK considers them canon.

ie.
KoF canon = Geese is alive
FF canon = Geese is dead
But Geese's feats in both timelines should be considered when he used in debates.

That's because they all take place in the same universe and SNK phucked up the time line and never bothered to fix it, but KOF is not an alternate time line of FF, it's the same time line, just not in order. Now when you start takin' feats from Geese in KOFMI, that's when your makin' a mistake.

Originally posted by No End N Site
In canon, Takuma couldn't even fend off Yamazaki or Eiji Kisaragi in later KOFs and couldn't even beat Geese back in the AOF days. But way back in 2000 in a non canon ending, he can divert a city bustin' beam? Common sense.

Even Geese hasn't show any feats too. And when did Yamazaki and Eiji beat Takuma?

Originally posted by No End N Site Obviously a joke. Chang and Choi have been defeated by much less.

These powers they display in this 1 ending clearly contradict their 'real' power levels in the actual story. And I said I was not sure about the history of Bao, so I could be wrong about him actually being capable of such power.

Bao's case is semi-canon. In KOF 2001, Kensou regained his power while Bao lost it. Bao might have that capability of doing such a thing.

Originally posted by No End N Site

I say he was vaped. You can not prove he was not, in canon. He looks like he's bein' vaped to me and until you show me his body after K''s ending, then I will continue to think so.

1. His body wasn't shown in canon ending.
2. No scene where his body destroyed like Omega Rugal
3. There's a scene where his body still remain.
4. So, stop downplaying Zero with your baseless and unproven assumption.

Originally posted by No End N Site

The movie is OFFICIALLY stated to represent how the Alpha versions (young versions) of how the characters would fight. And the characters don't have different fighting capabilities and I'm not usin' the movie as canon, it's not. But the abilities shown are, that's official.

I'm curious about this "Show canon abilities" statement. Please send me the source about this statement. Their way of fighting is completely different from SF4.

Originally posted by No End N Site

AOF and FF take place before KOF in the same universe as KOF. SNK has never tried to repair and make sense of the plot holes in the time lines. KOFMI may have similar events take place but that doesn't mean anything and you have yet to show me any statements provin' this. In the Marvel VS Capcom series, Ryu get's his head band from Ken and Ryu still has a grudge with Akuma after their 1st battle in Alpha 2. Does that mean Marvel VS Capcom shows canon ability now? In CFE Chun Li mentions the canon events that took place in SFII to Bison and her ending represents SFIII canon, does that mean that that game represents canon ability? The company behind these works have to say it does, you can't just assume and imply it.

MVC is crossover. Everybody knows that it's non-canon unlike KOF MI. And, I'll tell you again. In SNK, we have KOF-MI timeline, AOF-FF timeline, KOF-KOF MI timeline. No one ever argued about the differences of AOF-FF and KOF-FF timeline except you. I can also say KOF and KOF MI most likely has the same universe since : the plot continues, not a crossover, and it's the same case as KOF-FF and FF-AOF timeline.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Even Geese hasn't show any feats too. And when did Yamazaki and Eiji beat Takuma? [/B]

Either before KOF03 or XI and it wasn't Yamazaki and Eiji, it was Yamazaki OR Eiji, just 1.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

1. His body wasn't shown in canon ending.
2. No scene where his body destroyed like Omega Rugal
3. There's a scene where his body still remain.
4. So, stop downplaying Zero with your baseless and unproven assumption. [/B]

1.My point exactly.
2.So...The scene where everything goes white looks similar enough.
3.Scene is not canon.
4.You need to stop makin' things up to make the characters you like look good.
5.I just read 3 faqs that stated he was killed by Whip in canon...she shot him with a gun. Not the Zero canon...

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I'm curious about this "Show canon abilities" statement. Please send me the source about this statement. Their way of fighting is completely different from SF4. [/B]

I can't show you somethin' that's on a DVD, it's not a written interview. You will either have to buy it or hope you can find the interview on youtube. I can't find any of the director and Capcom commentary on youtube. I'll ask around though. Their way of fighting is no different from SF4

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
MVC is crossover. Everybody knows that it's non-canon unlike KOF MI. And, I'll tell you again. In SNK, we have KOF-MI timeline, AOF-FF timeline, KOF-KOF MI timeline. No one ever argued about the differences of AOF-FF and KOF-FF timeline except you. I can also say KOF and KOF MI most likely has the same universe since : the plot continues, not a crossover, and [b]it's the same case as KOF-FF and FF-AOF timeline. [/B]

It doesn't matter, it follows the same criteria your makin' up for KOFAD. In fact, I can post right now that everything in MVC is in-character accordin' to Capcom. WTF are you talkin' about?! I never argued about the differences of AOF-FF and KOF-FF timeline. I'm talkin' about the UNIVERSES of KOF and KOFMI, which are separate. This should be simple to understand. KOFMI is not the same case as AOF and FF. KOFMI NEVER happened in canon. I'm seriously gonna give up explainin' this to you if you don't get it. Is SFEX showin' canon ability to you, cuz it's the same thing as KOFMI? Lol.

Originally posted by No End N Site
[B]Either before KOF03 or XI and it wasn't Yamazaki and Eiji, it was Yamazaki OR Eiji, just 1.

Show me the story about this.

Originally posted by No End N Site
1.My point exactly.
2.So...The scene where everything goes white looks similar enough.
3.Scene is not canon.
4.You need to stop makin' things up to make the characters you like look good.
5.I just read 3 faqs that stated he was killed by Whip in canon...she shot him with a gun. Not the Zero canon...

If in canon he was shot by Whip, then it's clear enough. Zero survived the city busting attack, almost dead and Whip shot him. You just showed me Zero survived the beam.

Originally posted by No End N Site I can't show you somethin' that's on a DVD, it's not a written interview. You will either have to buy it or hope you can find the interview on youtube. I can't find any of the director and Capcom commentary on youtube. I'll ask around though. Their way of fighting is no different from SF4

I'll look for it...

Originally posted by No End N Site It doesn't matter, it follows the same criteria your makin' up for KOFAD. In fact, I can post right now that everything in MVC is in-character accordin' to Capcom. WTF are you talkin' about?! I never argued about the differences of AOF-FF and KOF-FF timeline. I'm talkin' about the UNIVERSES of KOF and KOFMI, which are separate. This should be simple to understand. KOFMI is not the same case as AOF and FF. KOFMI NEVER happened in canon. I'm seriously gonna give up explainin' this to you if you don't get it. Is SFEX showin' canon ability to you, cuz it's the same thing as KOFMI? Lol.

Once again, KOF MI has a different timeline but NOT THE DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. If you say it's never happened in canon means you have to double check your word. Anything that happened in original KOF timeline, hapened in KOF MI timeline (Showed in KOF AD anime which takes places before MI2). The case about KOF and KOF MI is similar to Marvel and Ultimate Marvel. Timeline doesn't make the power looks different.

I'm pretty tired of doin' this, but I will answer your questions, at least.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Show me the story about this.

I got this from the All About SNK book I bought a while back. It's in Japanese but I had friends at SNKwiki and SRK.com translate it for me. It should be in Takuma's profile on the SNKwiki.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
If in canon he was shot by Whip, then it's clear enough. Zero survived the city busting attack, almost dead and Whip shot him. You just showed me Zero survived the beam.

No, it says after the battle, he took Whip away and said something to her and she shot him. It never says anything about him bein' hit by the canon. This was translated from my book as well and it should be up on the wiki site or SRK. I totally forgot about it, this constant back and forth helped me to remember. He never got hit by the canon and would be destroyed if he did.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Once again, KOF MI has a different timeline but NOT THE DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. If you say it's never happened in canon means you have to double check your word. Anything that happened in original KOF timeline, hapened in KOF MI timeline (Showed in KOF AD anime which takes places before MI2). The case about KOF and KOF MI is similar to Marvel and Ultimate Marvel. Timeline doesn't make the power looks different.

I quit wit this shit. You actually think you can use Ultimate Marvel feats for Marvel. There are so many things wrong with this.

Originally posted by No End N Site

I got this from the All About SNK book I bought a while back. It's in Japanese but I had friends at SNKwiki and SRK.com translate it for me. It should be in Takuma's profile on the SNKwiki.

I'll check it.

Originally posted by No End N Site

No, it says after the battle, he took Whip away and said something to her and she shot him. It never says anything about him bein' hit by the canon. This was translated from my book as well and it should be up on the wiki site or SRK. I totally forgot about it, this constant back and forth helped me to remember. He never got hit by the canon and would be destroyed if he did.

Anywhere you see the ending, he got hit by the cannon. Why do you think he had to look at the sky before the explosion occurred? why do you think he had to lay down on the ground and did NOTHING when Whip wants to shot him? Because he is very very weakened. The book doesn't say anything about he got hit doesn't mean it's translated to "Zero never got hit by the cannon." Look at the endings too.

Originally posted by No End N Site
I quit wit this shit. You actually think you can use Ultimate Marvel feats for Marvel. There are so many things wrong with this.

Up to you...

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Anywhere you see the ending, he got hit by the cannon. Why do you think he had to look at the sky before the explosion occurred? why do you think he had to lay down on the ground and did NOTHING when Whip wants to shot him? Because he is very very weakened. The book doesn't say anything about he got hit doesn't mean it's translated to "Zero never got hit by the cannon." Look at the endings too.

The Z.Canon bit never happened. It's in all the endings but in canon, he couldn't even tank a bullet from Whip's Eagle. He literally whisked her off into a private room. Every ending has Bison explode in Alpha 3, but in canon, we know that never happened, it's the same thing.

If Zero can tank a city bustin' blast he can tank a bullet. Bein' out of energy does not make your body any less durable.

Originally posted by No End N Site
The Z.Canon bit never happened. It's in all the endings but in canon, he couldn't even tank a bullet from Whip's Eagle. He literally whisked her off into a private room. Every ending has Bison explode in Alpha 3, but in canon, we know that never happened, it's the same thing.

If Zero can tank a city bustin' blast he can tank a bullet. Bein' out of energy does not make your body any less durable.

So, do you think that Zero is very weak that he can't even fight back when his opponent use gun? And why did he lay down on the ground? Because he asked Whip to sleep with him? No. The only explanation is he got beat, got blasted by the zero cannon, and in a very weakened condition, he was shot. Besides, the destruction of southtown was mentioned in KOF 2001.

In a prime condition maybe you can tank a boxer's punch and fight back but in a dying condition, if you tank the punch of the boxer, you'll DIE. The same goes to clone Zero.

Originally posted by No End N Site
[B]Either before KOF03 or XI and it wasn't Yamazaki and Eiji, it was Yamazaki OR Eiji, just 1.

takuma hasn't been defeated, it was more health problem. i can quote a part of his story for you :

“So, how is his physical condition really? Since he’s in the hospital is something wrong?”
“Are you referring to his wound after the last KOF? That was mainly an old injury acting up again, which was treated and he was quickly released. He’s been admitted for tests this time.”
“Tests?”
“My father’s no spring chicken. They tossed him in the hospital for a week coinciding along with a thorough checkup. And they found high blood sugar, something with his liver, so thanks to that he’s been getting some quiet time.”
“If he has too much free time, he may plot another incident like this.” “…I suppose so.”

source : kof history

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
So, do you think that Zero is very weak that he can't even fight back when his opponent use gun?

And why did he lay down on the ground? Because he asked Whip to sleep with him? No. The only explanation is he got beat, got blasted by the zero cannon, and in a very weakened condition, he was shot. Besides, the destruction of southtown was mentioned in KOF 2001.

In a prime condition maybe you can tank a boxer's punch and fight back but in a dying condition, if you tank the punch of the boxer, you'll DIE. The same goes to clone Zero.

If a bullet can pierce his skin and kill him when he is weak, then it can pierce his skin when he is at full power. No matter how tired you are, what your body is made of never changes, flesh is flesh. It's ridiculous how you can say the man can tank a blast from a canon yet afterward is SO weak that he can be shot and killed, makes no sense at all. That's one hell of a leap that is totally unfounded.

Zero was on the ground cuz he got his ass kicked by K' and crew. The canon was still fired in canon, Zero just wasn't in it's line of sight. That is why ground zero is in S.Town, not some dark private room, where Zero is shown dyin'.

Even in prime condition you CAN'T tank a bullet to the heart and in a dying condition, you STILL can't tank a bullet to the heart. The same goes to clone Zero. A boxer's punch is not the same as the Z.Canon.

Originally posted by crimson_2010
takuma hasn't been defeated, it was more health problem. i can quote a part of his story for you :

source : kof history

Were talkin' about 2 completely different events, Sado.

Originally posted by No End N Site
If a bullet can pierce his skin and kill him when he is weak, then it can pierce his skin when he is at full power. No matter how tired you are, what your body is made of never changes, flesh is flesh. It's ridiculous how you can say the man can tank a blast from a canon yet afterward is SO weak that he can be shot and killed, makes no sense at all. That's one hell of a leap that is totally unfounded.

Zero was on the ground cuz he got his ass kicked by K' and crew. The canon was still fired in canon, Zero just wasn't in it's line of sight. That is why ground zero is in S.Town, not some dark private room, where Zero is shown dyin'.

Even in prime condition you CAN'T tank a bullet to the heart and in a dying condition, you STILL can't tank a bullet to the heart. The same goes to clone Zero. A boxer's punch is not the same as the Z.Canon

Proof me that Zero never got hit by the cannon. Anywhere you see the ending in KOF 2000, he got hit by the beam. No single ending where he didn't got hit. Even he got hit by the Zero cannon beam at Ikari warrior's team ending too. Why do you think he has to look at the sky when the zero cannon was fired from the sky and then everything goes white? Are you against the endings too now and begin to argue with your own story?

I'm talking about something you can take and something you can't. And the case is just like Zero cannon. Maybe you can take a punch from a boxer when you're in prime condition but when you're dying, a punch from a normal man will kill you. Is that doesn't make any sense?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Proof me that Zero never got hit by the cannon. Anywhere you see the ending in KOF 2000, he got hit by the beam. No single ending where he didn't got hit. Even he got hit by the Zero cannon beam at Ikari warrior's team ending too. Why do you think he has to look at the sky when the zero cannon was fired from the sky and then everything goes white? Are you against the endings too now and begin to argue with your own story?

I'm talking about something you can take and something you can't. And the case is just like Zero cannon. Maybe you can take a punch from a boxer when you're in prime condition but when you're dying, a punch from a normal man will kill you. Is that doesn't make any sense?

Yo, look, this has gone on long enough. The All About book never states he was hit by the Z.Canon, he is shown to be dead in his private room, not ground zero in S.Town where everyone else is shown to be after the blast hits and are clearly affected by it. There is no reputable faq on the planet that says he was hit by the canon at all. Fact is, K' and friends incapacitated Zero before the canon was even fired and when the Z.Canon was used, it hits S.Town, not Zero. You can read this ANYWHERE KOF information is available.

There isn't an ending in SFA3 that doesn't have Bison explode in a blaze of glory, that doesn't make it true, in fact, those of us who are not Bison fanbois and just want him to have a feat, know it's not true. It never happened. You equatin' the Z.Canon to a boxer's punch is erroneous and is highly irrelevant to the scenario at hand. 'Point is, Zero never tanked the blast, Zero was never hit by the blast at all. The facts are all there, rather you want to swallow the pill called "Truth" is up to you, entirely. I just know anything you say after this, relatin' to this, is hogwash.

My original opinion still stands, wit moderate difficulty, Akuma will annihilate the NESTS team.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Yo, look, this has gone on long enough. The All About book never states he was hit by the Z.Canon, he is shown to be dead in his private room, not ground zero in S.Town where everyone else is shown to be after the blast hits and are clearly affected by it. There is no reputable faq on the planet that says he was hit by the canon at all. Fact is, K' and friends incapacitated Zero before the canon was even fired and when the Z.Canon was used, it hits S.Town, not Zero. You can read this ANYWHERE KOF information is available.

There isn't an ending in SFA3 that doesn't have Bison explode in a blaze of glory, that doesn't make it true, in fact, those of us who are not Bison fanbois and just want him to have a feat, know it's not true. It never happened. You equatin' the Z.Canon to a boxer's punch is erroneous and is highly irrelevant to the scenario at hand. 'Point is, Zero never tanked the blast, Zero was never hit by the blast at all. The facts are all there, rather you want to swallow the pill called "Truth" is up to you, entirely. I just know anything you say after this, relatin' to this, is hogwash.

My original opinion still stands, wit moderate difficulty, Akuma will annihilate the NESTS team.

The book doesn't say anything because the scene of Zero go hit by the cannon can be seen anywhere. And, there's an ending where Shin Bison doesn't shown to explode but presumably died : Charlie's ending. The sme goes to Orochi in KOF 97 where his ending is different than others after he fought sacred force team. But in Zero's case, it's different. All of the ending implied that Zero was got hit by the beam.

Anyway, this is what I get.

Badly wounded and enraged, Zero is ready to activate the Zero Cannon, since it should already have enough energy to blow his enemies to bits. However, the generator does not respond to his command inputs. Suddenly, Zero is inmobilized, and two mysterious women, called Diana and Foxy, appear at his sides. They condemn Zero to death for trying to betray NESTS. Amidst his anguish and pain, Zero watches how Kula activates the Zero Cannon from outer space. The beam falls on the temple itself, and Zero receives the impact head on. In his dying place, Zero delivers Whip the project data, and watches over as Kyo and Iori engage in their faithful battle, before finally being buried by the debris of the falling temple, with Southtown as his crumbled tomb....

Source : http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Clone-Zero#History

EDIT : If you have that book, please scan it and show it here. thanks.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
The book doesn't say anything because the scene of Zero go hit by the cannon can be seen anywhere. And, there's an ending where Shin Bison doesn't shown to explode but presumably died : Charlie's ending. The sme goes to Orochi in KOF 97 where his ending is different than others after he fought sacred force team. But in Zero's case, it's different. All of the ending implied that Zero was got hit by the beam.

Anyway, this is what I get.

Source : http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Clone-Zero#History

EDIT : If you have that book, please scan it and show it here. thanks.

Statemaster.com? Lol, whatever the phuck that is...That site hasn't edited their game pages in years and has no proof to show where their info comes from. They're worst than Wiki. And FYI, Bison does explode in Charlie's ending. Canon says Clone Zero was defeated by K''s team and then shot by Whip shortly after. Zero dies in a dark room. Ground zero from the canon is not some dark room. 2 different places. Also, that site doesn't even mention that the beam destroyed the city or that it's even capable and it says that the Z.Canon only had enough power to destroy his enemies, not a city. At the end, it only states that it destroyed the temple. If you fight Kula and get the "good ending" the Zero Canon is not at full power and the city is fine. Now how much of that can you beleive?

I don't have a scanner and it wouldn't matter anyway because the section of that of that book comes after the endings and there aint many pictures. It's in Japanese anyway.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Statemaster.com? Lol, whatever the phuck that is...That site hasn't edited their game pages in years and has no proof to show where their info comes from. They're worst than Wiki. And FYI, Bison does explode in Charlie's ending. Canon says Clone Zero was defeated by K''s team and then shot by Whip shortly after. Zero dies in a dark room. Ground zero from the canon is not some dark room. 2 different places. Also, that site doesn't even mention that the beam destroyed the city or that it's even capable and it says that the Z.Canon only had enough power to destroy his enemies, not a city. At the end, it only states that it destroyed the temple. If you fight Kula and get the "good ending" the Zero Canon is not at full power and the city is fine. Now how much of that can you beleive?

I don't have a scanner and it wouldn't matter anyway because the section of that of that book comes after the endings and there aint many pictures. It's in Japanese anyway.

...I don't know if the part where "shortly after Zero defeated then Whip shot Zero" is your made up part or not. You ignored the ending in KOF 2000 where Zero trampled by the beam and said it's non-canon even though the event happened before Whip shot him with a gun. Even in Kyo's ending he was in the same dark room too and before the event, he was trampled by the beam too. Besides, where did you get this "Ground Zero" term? I haven't heard anything about this Ground Zero. Is that the name of Zero's stage?

My opinion still remain. Zero was defeated, blasted by the beam and whip shot him shortly after Zero gave her an info.

Agreed.

Every SNK fan knows that Zero DID tank the blast, and was killed in an extremely weakened condition by Whip.

Besides, it is fairly obvious in the game endings that Zero Clone got hit by the Z. Cannon in KoF2000.

IMO, if Akuma can also tank the Z. Cannon in prime condition, he stands a fair chance against the NESTS team.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Agreed.

Every SNK fan knows that Zero DID tank the blast, and was killed in an extremely weakened condition by Whip.

Besides, it is fairly obvious in the game endings that Zero Clone got hit by the Z. Cannon in KoF2000.

IMO, if Akuma can also tank the Z. Cannon in prime condition, he stands a fair chance against the NESTS team.

Thanks. 🙂