Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThat's not a win. Hulk also had him bested far longer when he was buried underneath the mountain.
I count three wins for Thor.1) The Hulk annual when he knocks him out with lightning.
2) Reigning where he kills both the Hulk and the Thing.
3) Breaking into the Marvel Comics Way #2 where he nearly kills the Hulk.
Reigning isn't canon for 616 Hulk so nice try but wrongo.
Scans?
Originally posted by Wild ShadowIt was canon for Thor not Hulk. Big diff. Thor had the odinforce turned off for that fight against hulk, thing. strange, etc.
reigning was canon to thor's history since he remembers it all... he simply altered time and reset things but he still did it.. not like it matters since it was amp thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not a win. Hulk also had him bested far longer when he was buried underneath the mountain.Reigning isn't canon for 616 Hulk so nice try but wrongo.
Scans?
Beating him down and then finishing him with lightning is not a win in your book? Noted.
Hulk tossed Thor into a mountain and as Thor was getting up, the entire mountainside fell on top of him.The Hulk then jumped away. Thor's win was a hell of a lot more legit. Far longer?
The comic book characters besides Thor don't remember it as he went back in time and changed the future but we do. We know it happened as we own the comics. It was the 616 Hulk and Thing versus the 616 Thor. Thor went back and time and saved the Hulk from a beat down of epic proportions.
I know you like to claim that your Thanos, but if you actually believe it, then I offer you this advice: Get help.
I'm going to bed. I'm too exhausted for the idiocy that is sure to follow.
^ In my opinion, that's Rulk. Thor never fought Hulk in that costume, nor any time recently enough for Thor to be musing over it with Balder. I'm aware of some random blog exchange that suggests it was originally intended to be Hulk, but it clearly isn't.
Obviously arguments for both sides, but it makes more sense it beng Rulk since... well... current Thor did indeed nearly kill him in his rage...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ In my opinion, that's Rulk. Thor never fought Hulk in that costume, nor any time recently enough for Thor to be musing over it with Balder. I'm aware of some random blog story that it was originally intended to be Hulk, but it clearly isn't.
That little chat was me talking to Kevin.
I asked him and he said that the artist switched up the costume with classic but since this short story has no actual set place in the time line, I asked him if it should now be taken as happening after or right before Siege and he told me that's what they (I'm assuming Marvel.) told him.
Makes sense. Fall of the Hulks where Savage returns happens right before Siege. This was intended to be a flash back to a random fight between them that we never saw (At least as I understand it. Not to different from that Hulk one shot.) and it can still be taken as that, except it happened much more recently.
I doubt that much thought was given to it during the writing process itself but whatever.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushulks had the upper hand in most of the recent showings
I count three wins for Thor.1) The Hulk annual when he knocks him out with lightning.
2) Reigning where he kills both the Hulk and the Thing.
3) Breaking into the Marvel Comics Way #2 where he nearly kills the Hulk.
^The scan I posted was their most recent fight apparently. Before that, their most recent fight was the Hulk one shot. Before that, their most recent fight was the Reigning story where Thor kills both Hulk and the Thing.
Tell me exactly how the Hulk has had the advantages in their most recent fights/showings?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Obviously arguments for both sides, but it makes more sense it beng Rulk since... well... current Thor did indeed nearly kill him in his rage...
I thought it being Rulk was a great possibility too, but the writer confirmation sort of solidifies it as being Hulk.
It being Rulk will definitely give it a more stable time frame in terms of continuity and a time line, but let's face it, there have been much more worse situations than this in comics.
Thor always holds back against the Hulk. He can one shot him and Superman at the same time at his leisure.
Later bro. I gotta go.
^ 👆
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusExcept Thor never fought Hulk during Fall of the Hulks. Banner still can't Hulk out, and we're all the way in World War Hulks now, so it couldn't even have happened off-panel.
That little chat was me talking to Kevin.I asked him and he said that the artist switched up the costume with classic but since this short story has no actual set place in the time line, I asked him if it should now be taken as happening after or right before Siege and he told me that's what they (I'm assuming Marvel.) told him.
Makes sense. Fall of the Hulks where Savage returns happens right before Siege. This was intended to be a flash back to a random fight between them that we never saw (At least as I understand it. Not to different from that Hulk one shot.) and it can still be taken as that, except it happened much more recently.
I doubt that much thought was given to it during the writing process itself but whatever.
Frankly, nearly killing Rulk fits perfectly with the way it's presented on-panel and the timeline we're working with. And nearly killing Rulk isn't exactly anything to sneeze at either. I see absolutely no need to project Hulk onto that scene. It doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 👆 Except Thor never fought Hulk during Fall of the Hulks. Banner still can't Hulk out, and we're all the way in World War Hulks now, so it couldn't even have happened off-panel.
I know that. I don't think you understood me or maybe I'm too tired to explain it well.
This specific story is not really set in any specific time line.
What I meant is that we know Banner does Hulk out in the next two months so this battle could take place during those two months but it doesn't have to. It could be a battle that takes place 6 months from now where things return to the status quo for the Hulk. It doesn't really matter what time it takes place. Just pick a time in the next few years where both the Hulk and Thor are present and insert it there.
That's what so great about these one shot stories. In the next issue we see the Savage Hulk dreaming about his Planet Hulk and World War Hulk adventures. It doesn't make sense if we take into account the current state of continuity.
That's my mistake. Does World War Hulks specifically happen right before Siege like Fall of the Hulks? I'm not sure personally. Too many Hulk based titles.
Anyways, later.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThat's rulk and it's hilarious after this was exposed on herochat to be rulk and to hear only the thor fans screaming it isn't that this is just another example o fyou making things up when it's clearly the rulk.
Beating him down and then finishing him with lightning is not a win in your book? Noted.Hulk tossed Thor into a mountain and as Thor was getting up, the entire mountainside fell on top of him.The Hulk then jumped away. Thor's win was a hell of a lot more legit. Far longer?
The comic book characters besides Thor don't remember it as he went back in time and changed the future but we do. We know it happened as we own the comics. It was the 616 Hulk and Thing versus the 616 Thor. Thor went back and time and saved the Hulk from a beat down of epic proportions.
I know you like to claim that your Thanos, but if you actually believe it, then I offer you this advice: Get help.
I'm going to bed. I'm too exhausted for the idiocy that is sure to follow.
Thor can't beat him. LOL. The last go round strongly favored the Hulk.
It wasn't 616 Hulk as it didn't happen to him only Thor who went into an alternate reality from the present on.
Originally posted by Starscream MDefinitely.
hulks had the upper hand in most of the recent showings
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's rulk and it's hilarious after this was exposed on herochat to be rulk and to hear only the thor fans screaming it isn't that this is just another example o fyou making things up when it's clearly the rulk.Thor can't beat him. LOL. The last go round strongly favored the Hulk.
It wasn't 616 Hulk as it didn't happen to him only Thor who went into an alternate reality from the present on. Definitely.
Didn't Grevioux, the writer, say it was intended to be Hulk but the artist used the wrong costume?
