Gambit is magnificently agile in his own book, but next to daredevil, cap, elektra,deadpool, wolverine he's not a huge leap above them, they're very much his peers. It just happends to be on of his main traits so everyone is acting as if it's so much better than anyone else. He has enhanced agility, well..Cap has enhanced everything 😬
Originally posted by Battlehammer
thats your evidence? is this a joke? The agility they showed was nothing impressive at all....the fact you think that was an impressive above capt feat........is laughable........the only reason you even mention it is because blades a vampire.....which means almost nothing......oh and Capt has pummelled beats inot the ground who superhuman in ever senses.........clearly not...given you rediculous statement.......and "evidences".
Actaully Capt america is enhanced. He the next stage in what human can become in the future.....he very much superhuman.
wow you get angry easily lol
the feats i mentioned were not my "Evidence" in fact my evidence was that caps only peak human. prove me wrong.
EDIT: current Cap is Bucky and the Op never stated anything of who. you do know that right?
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
in fact my evidence was that caps only peak human. prove me wrong.EDIT: current Cap is Bucky and the Op never stated anything of who. you do know that right?
Why assume OP doesn't mean the Steve Rogers? OP would have said Bucky so please don't try an d adjust your reasoning to make a 'bucky vs gambit' thread. If its Cap, Its Steve unless stated, isnt this obvious?
And as for Cap being 'peak human' you're just wrong. No scans needed, it's common knowledge that he performs super human feats for breakfast lunch and dinner. The fact you don't know this just means you read too many bios and not enough Comics.
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Originally posted by Juk3n
Why assume OP doesn't mean the Steve Rogers? OP would have said Bucky so please don't try an d adjust your reasoning to make a 'bucky vs gambit' thread. If its Cap, Its Steve unless stated, isnt this obvious?And as for Cap being 'peak human' you're just wrong. No scans needed, it's common knowledge that he performs super human feats for breakfast lunch and dinner. The fact you don't know this just means you read too many bios and not enough Comics.
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well first of all your completely wrong about the op....read the rules.
next this could be steve and id still say the something because he is only peak human anyways.....
and being peak human would mean not be superhuman in any way merely just at his bodys peak strength,endurance,agilty...son on and so forth
ill head that way and let you know what i pick up 😉
not to double post or anything but i'm on page 8 of his respect tread and the most impressive thing i saw that would show him as beyond peak human was handling spider-man the way he did...personally i have never agreed with that but i'll give it to you.
Now i have a question for you or anyone who chooses to let me ask.....its serious and has a point relevant to this fight....
In his solo series Remy displayed insane agility.
And some bios state that Remy's agility is enhanced with the same kinetic energy that he uses to explode stuff.
But I have seen Cap do similar feats when it comes to the dodging bullet dept.
But Gambit's reflecting bullets with his staff feat is more impressive in my opinion. Regardless. He still wins this forum fight, wide burst explosive damage eats shield protection.
Originally posted by Juk3nif the op doesnt state, we go with the most current versions, people forget that a lot. bucky might stand more of a chance against gambit though
Why assume OP doesn't mean the Steve Rogers? OP would have said Bucky so please don't try an d adjust your reasoning to make a 'bucky vs gambit' thread. If its Cap, Its Steve unless stated, isnt this obvious?And as for Cap being 'peak human' you're just wrong. No scans needed, it's common knowledge that he performs super human feats for breakfast lunch and dinner. The fact you don't know this just means you read too many bios and not enough Comics.
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i think ppl seriously underestimate what cap represents when we use him as the pinnacle of human potential "peak"
if ppl want to say he is peak that is fine so long as they realize that he occupies the top spot of the peak human pyramid alone..
the things he does routinely is above what your average DC or marvel peak humans can do.. which is why we put him on the enhanced or low end superhuman..
anything a peak human does Cap does it without breaking a sweat and then some...
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
he fought blade knocked him over(then the fight stopped) and he fought daredevil....in which both fights he showed very good levels of agility.but even without a scan it's easy to tell....
Caps only peak Human and gambits agility is apart of his mutation (which i believe it was beyond human agility)
Nothing I saw in those fights would make me believe that Gambit is superior to Rogers in agility.
Lmao. Do you think him being peak human means absolutely anything? Captain America performs ridiculous feats that are far above human constantly.
Just because agility is one of the main attributes of Gambit that is focused on, it doesn't mean his magically superior to Captain America in that category.
And just because I'm bored:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/daredevil23314bt0.jpg
The man in the suit is Daredevil. Take a guess as to who that blur is.
Seems like every few months someone makes this thread despite the fact that it's been done oh so many times. A simple search would've shown this. The largest threads are at the bottom.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nothing I saw in those fights would make me believe that Gambit is superior to Rogers in agility.Lmao. Do you think him being peak human means absolutely anything? Captain America performs ridiculous feats that are far above human constantly.
Just because agility is one of the main attributes of Gambit that is focused on, it doesn't mean his magically superior to Captain America in that category.
And just because I'm bored:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/daredevil23314bt0.jpgThe man in the suit is Daredevil. Take a guess as to who that blur is.
ok well exactly kinda...look at the strongman competition...those men are not at peak human and they can pull trains for gods sake so im not takeing anything away by saying he's at the top level in all areas that a human's body can reach....so don't get me wrong.....because that would make him well beyond an Olympic gold medalist....but he shouldn't be hanging with people like spiderman....(because of his spider sense)
but gambit has him beat with weapon usage(because of his powers) strategy and his agility would be superior because it would be above peak human
now i never said gambit would win in a stomp but i said he would win
heck not even necessarily because of his agility(simply pointing out his agility is better.)
i mean his ability, his control over them and his mentality give him a pretty big edge
Originally posted by the ninjak
In his solo series Remy displayed insane agility.And some bios state that Remy's agility is enhanced with the same kinetic energy that he uses to explode stuff.
But I have seen Cap do similar feats when it comes to the dodging bullet dept.
But Gambit's reflecting bullets with his staff feat is more impressive in my opinion. Regardless. He still wins this forum fight, wide burst explosive damage eats shield protection.
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Originally posted by Trackz
if the op doesnt state, we go with the most current versions, people forget that a lot.
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Originally posted by BlackZero30x
ok well exactly kinda...look at the strongman competition...those men are not at peak human and they can pull trains for gods sake so im not takeing anything away by saying he's at the top level in all areas that a human's body can reach....so don't get me wrong.....because that would make him well beyond an Olympic gold medalist....but he shouldn't be hanging with people like spiderman....(because of his spider sense)
Not taking anything away? This guy has deflected Mjolnir throws with a shield toss, knocked out the Hulk among other things. You're taking something away.
Really? Well this might surprise you but he can hang with Spider-Man and was schooling him up close in their latest fight.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
but gambit has him beat with weapon usage(because of his powers) strategy and his agility would be superior because it would be above peak human
His kinetic powers would give him an advantage in combat against Captain America. At least in terms of long range capabilities. Never argued that.
What kind of argument is that? Claiming Gambit's agility is better and supporting it with nothing more than a "But Cap is PEAK HUMAN AND GAMBIT IS ENHANCED! 🙁" doesn't prove anything.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
now i never said gambit would win in a stomp but i said he would win
That's nice.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
heck not even necessarily because of his agility(simply pointing out his agility is better.)
Without actually backing it up with any evidence.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
i mean his ability, his control over them and his mentality give him a pretty big edge
Pretty big edge? Gambit might win but it wouldn't be easy nor is undebatable. As a matter of fact, I'm more than certain that Captain America would school Gambit if they fought in a comic. However, this is a forum.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not taking anything away? This guy has deflected Mjolnir throws with a shield toss, knocked out the Hulk among other things. You're taking something away.
anyways no im not takeing anything away from him because like i said speaking in terms of real life a strong man can pull a frikkin front of a train! and being peak human would be well beyond that.....fact is in real life your body could never reach "peak human" because a person has never been able to use 100% of there strength....
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyes and you can go back and look an earlier statement I posted. i believe i was saying something like "i don't agree with it but i'll let you have it"
Really? Well this might surprise you but he can hang with Spider-Man and was schooling him up close in their latest fight.
it happens to often to be PIS or CIS
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusnever said you did i wasn't arguing with you when i stated this i was explaining my position on things
His kinetic powers would give him an advantage in combat against Captain America. At least in terms of long range capabilities. Never argued that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What kind of argument is that? Claiming Gambit's agility is better and supporting it with nothing more than a "But Cap is PEAK HUMAN AND GAMBIT IS ENHANCED! 🙁" doesn't prove anything.
ok let me say it as simple as i can....peak human is < Enhanced
that's a perfectly good argument because it's fact
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Without actually backing it up with any evidence.
correct which i stated earlier originally when i first started talking about this you could show gambit is simply by reasoning i posted above this.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuslike already stated as well which i believe you already addressed by saying "that's nice" but i'll say it again...i never said anything about him being uber better just better....excuses me if i have made it seem like i said in a stomp but i never said that nor do i believe that. but i think everyone knows gambits going to know who he's up against and he's gonna blow up the field if he has to....messy but effective. not to mention he can time dely or what not....im not saying cap wont know what hes up against....im saying gambits gonna go straight for the cheap shots and keep them coming because he knows that's his ticket to the win against an opponent like cap.
Pretty big edge? Gambit might win but it wouldn't be easy nor is undebatable. As a matter of fact, I'm more than certain that Captain America would school Gambit if they fought in a comic. However, this is a forum.
