Originally posted by BlackZero30x
idk what you have been reading but it must not be released to the public yet.......... 😕i think one of us really should read comics...and im not talking about me....
What I get for not finishing siege I guess. Eh well..
But seriously I have to take this from the guy who doesn't know about Cap punching Hulk out and thinks Enhanced>Peak is a good enough argument without any feats to support it?
mmmk... 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
What I get for not finishing siege I guess. Eh well..But seriously I have to take this from the guy who doesn't know about Cap punching Hulk out and thinks Enhanced>Peak is a good enough argument without any feats to support it?
mmmk... 🙄
well apparently you do because you did 😉
i saw the ultimate cap knocking hulk around but never 616
so your saying enhanced<peak?
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
so are you talking ultimate cap here because i don't remember him KO'ing hulk....
No I'm not. 616 Captain America comes in and saves Spider-Man's live. He then knocks out the Hulk. However I do believe Spider-Man landed one punch to the Huk's gut in the end but Captain America was already beating that ass.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
anyways no im not takeing anything away from him because like i said speaking in terms of real life a strong man can pull a frikkin front of a train! and being peak human would be well beyond that.....fact is in real life your body could never reach "peak human" because a person has never been able to use 100% of there strength....
yes and you can go back and look an earlier statement I posted. i believe i was saying something like "i don't agree with it but i'll let you have it"
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
it happens to often to be PIS or CIS
Quote where you said that because I'm not seeing it.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
never said you did i wasn't arguing with you when i stated this i was explaining my position on things
Okay.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
ok let me say it as simple as i can....peak human is < Enhancedthat's a perfectly good argument because it's fact
facepalm
Honestly, I don't eve know why I bother sometimes.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
correct which i stated earlier originally when i first started talking about this you could show gambit is simply by reasoning i posted above this.
I don't even understand what your saying here. Are you agreeing with me that your making baseless claims and relying on nothing more besides the argument that Gambit is ranked as enhanced in bios hence he should be above Captain America? ****ing ridiculous.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
like already stated as well which i believe you already addressed by saying "that's nice" but i'll say it again...i never said anything about him being uber better just better....excuses me if i have made it seem like i said in a stomp but i never said that nor do i believe that. but i think everyone knows gambits going to know who he's up against and he's gonna blow up the field if he has to....messy but effective. not to mention he can time dely or what not....im not saying cap wont know what hes up against....im saying gambits gonna go straight for the cheap shots and keep them coming because he knows that's his ticket to the win against an opponent like cap.
That's nice.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No I'm not. 616 Captain America comes in and saves Spider-Man's live. He then knocks out the Hulk. However I do believe Spider-Man landed one punch to the Huk's gut in the end but Captain America was already beating that ass.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
yes and you can go back and look an earlier statement I posted. i believe i was saying something like "i don't agree with it but i'll let you have it"
are you trying to quote me here...im confused...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Quote where you said that because I'm not seeing it.
i spaced that and the CIS/PIS claim as an explanation to why i stated that.....not trying to fight with you here im just saying i often like to explain my motives and/or why i state things. such as now
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalmHonestly, I don't eve know why I bother sometimes.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't even understand what your saying here. Are you agreeing with me that your making baseless claims and relying on nothing more besides the argument that Gambit is ranked as enhanced in bios hence he should be above Captain America? ****ing ridiculous.
kind of but kind of not im saying that im making claim that factually speaking gambit is enhanced and cap is peak...maybe not separating them by a bunch but it does separate them by some margin. in gambits favor....what i was trying to do was make my point without any scans but i can throw this entire point out start over and use scans instead....because my entire point was me saying from the beginning that factually gambit is enhanced and cap is peak.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusthank you. and im seriously not trying to be a di** and if it seems that way im sorry because that's not intended. truthfully my argument about gambits win isn't even based on his agility so idk why this is even that big of a deal. but i mean since it is if you want i can try and post some scans of gambits agility...see if that satisfies you.
That's nice.
Originally posted by StyleTimeFor some reason the search seems to only give me the most recent threads nowadays...
Seems like every few months someone makes this thread despite the fact that it's been done oh so many times. A simple search would've shown this. The largest threads are at the bottom.
Not sure if it changed during the time I went on hiatus.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
For some reason the search seems to only give me the most recent threads nowadays...Not sure if it changed during the time I went on hiatus.
Also, did you search titles only?
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
and you should read comics before makeing claimsthese are lower end feats
this one shows gambit clearly dodgeing all of those blast and tagging them 😉
Uh.... I seriously hope you don't think these are feats that somehow put Gambit outside of Caps agility range. 😐
Look Cap has coasted through agility simulations designed for Beast, you can keep protesting that Cap's "peak" human and that somehow puts him below Gambit but it's just not true.
Virtually EVERYTHING....EVERYTHING Cap does is WELL outside the scope of human ability. It's so obvious that there's no point in even arguing this. 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh.... I seriously hope you don't think these are feats that somehow put Gambit outside of Caps agility range. 😐Look Cap has coasted through agility simulations designed for Beast, you can keep protesting that Cap's "peak" human and that somehow puts him below Gambit but it's just not true.
Virtually EVERYTHING....EVERYTHING Cap does is WELL outside the scope of human ability. It's so obvious that there's no point in even arguing this. 😐
as for the scans no but that mechine gun fire deffintly puts him up there.
well these are some of gambits lower end feats and if you don't wanna argue this that's fine with me we don't have to but you seriously take this way to seriously...no offense because once upon a time i use to be on your team.
but coming in here and making claims that someone else doesn't read comics because you think they don't make sense is not arguing.
i respect you as a debater because your good at it but my original argument was kind of a sarcastic statement but since i perceived people as being hostile in response to it i kept on with it.
as for gambit being on a higher level with his agility i still believe this to be true.....as obviously other debaters do to.
fine the debates over you go your way and i'll go mine but in good spirit id much like it if this stayed civil because i come here to relax.
i honestly don't put a lot of input on the vs section anymore for that reason.
(for the record though i have been reading comics since i was a really small child because that was the main thing me and my step father had in common)
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Who's to say Cap doesn't nail him with that shield before those bombs disperse...like he flicks the deck but the shield is so close that it just deflects back and kills Gambit.Cap for the majority - easily.
with all of Gambits dodging feats and his speed and reaction times coupled with his agility. You think he's going to get hit by a 2ft shield that he knows can be thrown at any moment? And is likely EXPECTING to come at him?
lolmuchly?