Originally posted by StiltmanFTWNo? My mistake. Thought it was it.
What? No, he didn't...His HF under Bendis' pen is just as slow as Wolverine's, but I wouldn't say that he jobs. He loses on purpose if anything.
Originally posted by SamZED
No? My mistake. Thought it was it.
Yeah, he often loses on purpose as a part of bigger plan. But I was talking about the few times he did job. Like when Clint attacked the dark avengers, or when he and Bullseye fought Gargan, or when he forgot about his pheromones when he fought Punisher etc
That's because you haven't read Origins #47. Oh and I was talking about Way's writing, not Bendis. Dunno why I said Bendis. I complain about him a lot, I guess that's the reason. I'll never forgive him Cage one-shotting Bullseye in the final issue of DA. Never.
I wouldn't call that "jobbing a lot". Clint Barton would beat the crap out of KMC Thanos. Gargan... I couldn't take that comic seriously. And Daken stunned him with a strike to the throat in DW. Punisher got killed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWis clint really that outrageously written? I never understand why people are so hard on him and luke. WHen a character rises in popularity he's bound to start beating others.
That's because you haven't read Origins #47. Oh and I was talking about Way's writing, not Bendis. Dunno why I said Bendis. I complain about him a lot, I guess that's the reason. I'll never forgive him Cage one-shotting Bullseye in the final issue of DA. Never.I wouldn't call that "jobbing a lot". Clint Barton would beat the crap out of KMC Thanos. Gargan... I couldn't take that comic seriously. And Daken stunned him with a strike to the throat in DW. Punisher got killed.
but what do you think about it, is it bad writing or does daken just fail to use his powers effectively due to over-confidence. He didn't use his pheromones once on punisher.
Originally posted by TrackzIt's her signature single-strike kill technique.
i didn't see that in the respect thread, what is that?also does shiva have some type of chi healing, that would save her from gun shot wounds?
Her own speed (of similar levels to Cassandra Cain) and ability to read body language (while inferior to Cass) would make guns rather redundant. She has used chi to bring Batgirl back to life, but that's not really relevant to the fight.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotBlade has shot spiderman and vampires down, most of the time heroes can dodge gunfire because they're significantly faster than the one behind the gun, i don't see that being the case here. Also if shiva is close enough to use her one-hit kill strike (which i'm not sure would work, since the only way blade has been killed is by stake and even that didn't last long) she's close enough for blade to slice with his sword. Blade being armed puts it in his favor in my opinion.
It's her signature single-strike kill technique.Her own speed (of similar levels to Cassandra Cain) and ability to read body language (while inferior to Cass) would make guns rather redundant. She has used chi to bring Batgirl back to life, but that's not really relevant to the fight.
Originally posted by TrackzMeh. I didn't really post as an argument, I was simply opining. But I didn't really read the thread properly anyway and assumed they were unarmed and KO was sufficient anyway.
Blade has shot spiderman and vampires down, most of the time heroes can dodge gunfire because they're significantly faster than the one behind the gun, i don't see that being the case here. Also if shiva is close enough to use her one-hit kill strike (which i'm not sure would work, since the only way blade has been killed is by stake and even that didn't last long) she's close enough for blade to slice with his sword. Blade being armed puts it in his favor in my opinion.
With a weapons advantage he probably beats her more often than not I guess.