Blade runs the Assassins Gauntlet.

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I know. I just wanted to point out my be all and end all status... 131

I should point out though that I'd still take Shiva over him in H2H, and the only reason I gave him the nod here was the bladed weapon, not the firearms which would be pointless.

And for some reason I have a vague recollection that Shiva may have shattered a katana before anyway, although that could have been a different character or it may not have ever happened at all.

well blades sword is adamantium, and i would agree with you that she would win in H2H

Originally posted by Trackz
1. based on what?
2. thats the way the fight was set up, the hiring part was jsut for the set up, other than that no stipulations on location were given other than blade is given full rest between each fight.
3. same.
4. He said punisher was foolish for thinking he was wearing kevlar rather than acknowledge he was a vampire, not only that he has taken multiple shots to the leg and blitzed his opponents like nothing happened. You're making an assumption to suit your idea of Blade's healing. Blade had no need to bluff to the punisher seeing as he already was in a winning position.

1. Feats.
2. And the set up is that they are trying to assassinate Blade. This would imply that they are hunting Blade down, and that this us not a standard one on one fight. If it was... then it isn't an assassination attempt, its just the standard KMC Bloodsport.
3. Same.
4. He took two shots in the thigh and killed some fodder. That's not indication of a healing factor, just durability. Punisher took a shotgun blast to the chest that blow out one of his ribs and he still went melee and killed the guy who didn't it. He wasn't in the winning position - he had Punisher's gun in his face. There is no indication form anything in Blade's career than he can take a bullet to the face and live, and there is no indication that he could kill Frank before Frank pulled the trigger.

Originally posted by marwash22
who on the list is faster?

Shiva
Elektra
Daken
and
Deathstroke are all characters I can personally account for.

Originally posted by marwash22
who on the list is faster?

Everyone.

With the possible exception of Kraven depending on which one it is.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1. Feats.
2. And the set up is that they are trying to assassinate Blade. This would imply that they are hunting Blade down, and that this us not a standard one on one fight. If it was... then it isn't an assassination attempt, its just the standard KMC Bloodsport.
3. Same.
4. He took two shots in the thigh and killed some fodder. That's not indication of a healing factor, just durability. Punisher took a shotgun blast to the chest that blow out one of his ribs and he still went melee and killed the guy who didn't it. He wasn't in the winning position - he had Punisher's gun in his face. There is no indication form anything in Blade's career than he can take a bullet to the face and live, and there is no indication that he could kill Frank before Frank pulled the trigger.

1. such as
2. the only way assassinate comes into play is the fact that they have to kill him. nothing else was stated.
3. the gunshot wounds were gone a couple of panels later, he didn't even register them, blade's speed and reaction time are greater than punishers, as he stated he could take off his head before punisher could pull the trigger. Plus there's nothing to suggest that he couldn't, blade believes he could and it's not like blade lets himself get hit enough to know whether or not he coudl take it. we do know that he has stated that shooting vampires in the head doesn't kill them.

Originally posted by Konton
Shiva
Elektra
Daken
and
Deathstroke are all characters I can personally account for.
shiva based on what?

as for daken, not so much, most of his feats are him using his pheromones, he's been tagged quite easily when he wasn't using them or opponents got around them.

deathstroke and elektra are debatable.

Uh, the OP said nothing about this being a situation where these people are actually trying to assassinate Blade. I'm pretty sure this is meant to be tournament style... there's no hunting involved so that point being made about the element of surprise is bunk.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. such as
2. the only way assassinate comes into play is the fact that they have to kill him. nothing else was stated.
3. the gunshot wounds were gone a couple of panels later, he didn't even register them, blade's speed and reaction time are greater than punishers, as he stated he could take off his head before punisher could pull the trigger. Plus there's nothing to suggest that he couldn't, blade believes he could and it's not like blade lets himself get hit enough to know whether or not he coudl take it. we do know that he has stated that shooting vampires in the head doesn't kill them.

1. Off the top of my head he has shot down arrows fired by Green Arrow in from only a few feet away, and he's gunned down Deathstroke. If you want more - read up on him.
2. The fight stips say that a they where all hired to assassinate by a group of vamps Blade. Nothing about that sounds like the standard KMC default, even if you'd like to think so.
3. Blade's speed and reaction time aren't greater than Punisher's. Did Blade say he could take of Punisher's head before he could bull the trigger? Yeah, but he's full of shit. He also said he was evenly matched with Wolverine, right after Logan got through walking all over him. Punisher has better speed feats, if it came down to it, he would have squeezed that trigger and lift Blade with a fancy new opening in the center of his forehead, and nothing in Blade's history even vaguely suggests that he would walk away from that.

interpret it however you'd like to, but it reads as follows... "So they decide to hire some of the best assassins, hitmen, and hunters from both universes." This is only describing what they are, not what they have been hired to do.

Where's the darn OP when you need 'em. Clarification on this one little issue would make this a little easier.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1. Off the top of my head he has shot down arrows fired by Green Arrow in from only a few feet away, and he's gunned down Deathstroke. If you want more - read up on him.
2. The fight stips say that a they where all hired to assassinate by a group of vamps Blade. Nothing about that sounds like the standard KMC default, even if you'd like to think so.
3. Blade's speed and reaction time aren't greater than Punisher's. Did Blade say he could take of Punisher's head before he could bull the trigger? Yeah, but he's full of shit. He also said he was evenly matched with Wolverine, right after Logan got through walking all over him. Punisher has better speed feats, if it came down to it, he would have squeezed that trigger and lift Blade with a fancy new opening in the center of his forehead, and nothing in Blade's history even vaguely suggests that he would walk away from that.

1. how do those make him faster? those are demonstrations of his marksmanship.
2. that's nothing more than a themed set up. in the op he never states they get the element of surprise. the only way that assassination plays ANY role is that the opponents must kill him while blade only must incapacitate, other than that nothing.
3. ...so basically you decided the character is a liar to fit your arguments. things don't work like that. don't try to pull anyone back into that fight. for whatever reasons you think the fight ended in a stalemate. blade also is significantly faster than humans, and has in fact out paced even trained assassins in close quarters. saying he could whip his arm before punisher could pull the trigger is fact. Once again, we have never seen the limits of Blade's healing factor, he doesn't have that many showings with it. So for you to try and say he can't do something when he's never been put in that type of situation is quite misleading. The only evidence we have on this point is blade's comment, blade has never been one to bluff to his enemies. If you want to talk about character history maybe you should start with that.

Originally posted by marwash22
interpret it however you'd like to, but it reads as follows... "So they decide to hire some of the best assassins, hitmen, and hunters from both universes." This is only describing what they [b]are, not what they have been hired to do.

Where's the darn OP when you need 'em. Clarification on this one little issue would make this a little easier. [/B]

They are assassins. It's the assassination gauntlet. They where hired by vampires to kill Blade. Put two and two together.

Re: Blade runs the Assassins Gauntlet.

Originally posted by byrdgang21

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This is a bloodlusted Blade after he learns that the vampires have brought out the big guns to hunt him down.

Blade has to be killed to lose. Only has to incapacitate to advance.

Blade knows that he is Being hunted But not when, and where, and By whom. But I would assume that he would Be ready for his opponets somewhat.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. how do those make him faster? those are demonstrations of his marksmanship.
2. that's nothing more than a themed set up. in the op he never states they get the element of surprise. the only way that assassination plays ANY role is that the opponents must kill him while blade only must incapacitate, other than that nothing.
3. ...so basically you decided the character is a liar to fit your arguments. things don't work like that. don't try to pull anyone back into that fight. for whatever reasons you think the fight ended in a stalemate. blade also is significantly faster than humans, and has in fact out paced even trained assassins in close quarters. saying he could whip his arm before punisher could pull the trigger is fact. Once again, we have never seen the limits of Blade's healing factor, he doesn't have that many showings with it. So for you to try and say he can't do something when he's never been put in that type of situation is quite misleading. The only evidence we have on this point is blade's comment, blade has never been one to bluff to his enemies. If you want to talk about character history maybe you should start with that.
Meh. Things characters say and things characters do don't always necessarily correlate. Otherwise Storm would be flying around these forums killing everyone with her sun lasers.

Meanwhile "We've never seen the limits..." isn't usually a very good train of argument.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
They are assassins. It's the assassination gauntlet. They where hired by vampires to kill Blade. Put two and two together.
Agreed.

It's just a little difficult for me to put two and two together when one of the two's is a 4.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meanwhile "We've never seen the limits..." isn't usually a very good train of argument.
I agree with this. If that were logical, we could say without question that Hulk is the strongest character in the entire universe.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. how do those make him faster? those are demonstrations of his marksmanship.
2. that's nothing more than a themed set up. in the op he never states they get the element of surprise. the only way that assassination plays ANY role is that the opponents must kill him while blade only must incapacitate, other than that nothing.
3. ...so basically you decided the character is a liar to fit your arguments. things don't work like that. don't try to pull anyone back into that fight. for whatever reasons you think the fight ended in a stalemate. blade also is significantly faster than humans, and has in fact out paced even trained assassins in close quarters. saying he could whip his arm before punisher could pull the trigger is fact. Once again, we have never seen the limits of Blade's healing factor, he doesn't have that many showings with it. So for you to try and say he can't do something when he's never been put in that type of situation is quite misleading. The only evidence we have on this point is blade's comment, blade has never been one to bluff to his enemies. If you want to talk about character history maybe you should start with that.

1. How does shotting arrows out of the multiple arors fired by one of the best marksmen in comicdom from just feet away, not qualify as a speed feat? Seriously?
2. Insert the same thing I said last time
3.I decided he was a liar when nothing in his history matches the words coming out of his mouth. Comic books are a visual medium, narration is secondary to the art. I'm not going to take his word at face value if I need to disregard on panel evidence to do. If we did that then we would all believe Black Canary is a superior martial artists compared to Batman. We've never seen Blade's "healing factor," what we have seen is this: he has had bullet wounds stitched up on panel. That's a fact. His wrist was a bloody stump the whole issue after he chewed off his hand. You think he can take a bullet to the head, when his wrist wouldn't even scab over for an entire issue? Not to mention that the threat of gun fire made him surrender three or four times during his last series. And you tell me that Blade wasn't bluffing Punisher? Please.

Maybe Blade can heal as fast as you like to think, but he hasn't, and until he does he can't. At least on KMC. When he does, then it will be cool.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1. How does shotting arrows out of the multiple arors fired by one of the best marksmen in comicdom from just feet away, not qualify as a speed feat? Seriously?
2. Insert the same thing I said last time
3.I decided he was a liar when nothing in his history matches the words coming out of his mouth. Comic books are a visual medium, narration is secondary to the art. I'm not going to take his word at face value if I need to disregard on panel evidence to do. If we did that then we would all believe Black Canary is a superior martial artists compared to Batman. We've never seen Blade's "healing factor," what we have seen is this: he has had bullet wounds stitched up on panel. That's a fact. His wrist was a bloody stump the whole issue after he chewed off his hand. You think he can take a bullet to the head, when his wrist wouldn't even scab over for an entire issue? Not to mention that the threat of gun fire made him surrender three or four times during his last series. And you tell me that Blade [b]wasn't
bluffing Punisher? Please.

Maybe Blade can heal as fast as you like to think, but he hasn't, and until he does he can't. At least on KMC. When he does, then it will be cool. [/B]


1. it's marksmenship, he aims fast, btu in terms of raw speed it doesn't prove much, yes it requires considerable speed, it doesn't however put him at superhuman levels of speed nor can it be used to say he is faster than any given character.
2. take it up with the op
3.wow, ok for one everything he has said has matched up with what he has done on-panel. he stated that he didn't believe the gun would do damage, there's no evidence to the contrary, rather more evidence in support, but of course that couldn't be used in a KMC fight, however it surely can't be used to prove he is a liar. You're talking about appearances from his MAX series, nice job trying to low ball a character. Blade has been stabbed/slashed through the chest and healed in a panel or two several times, fact. I go based on whats on the panel, you trying to write off the character as a liar because his statements undermine your argument is plain dirty.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. it's marksmenship, he aims fast, btu in terms of raw speed it doesn't prove much, yes it requires considerable speed, it doesn't however put him at superhuman levels of speed nor can it be used to say he is faster than any given character.
2. take it up with the op
3.wow, ok for one everything he has said has matched up with what he has done on-panel. he stated that he didn't believe the gun would do damage, there's no evidence to the contrary, rather more evidence in support, but of course that couldn't be used in a KMC fight, however it surely can't be used to prove he is a liar. You're talking about appearances from his MAX series, nice job trying to low ball a character. Blade has been stabbed/slashed through the chest and healed in a panel or two several times, fact. I go based on whats on the panel, you trying to write off the character as a liar because his statements undermine your argument is plain dirty.

1. Any thing that would require faster reaction time than a quarter of a second is superhuman speed and reaction. Green Arrow was only feet away from, and he he shot all the arrows out of the air before they made it to him.
2. The OP already spoke... I was right.
3. Except there is evidence to the contrary. Guns have done damage to him before, he's had to get that same damage stitched up, and the threat of damage from them has coerced his cooperation. The only time Blade survived getting stabbed through the chest, he had a magical amulet... not really seeing as that being a check in the healing factor column. Blade was bluffing. He hasn't shown a healing factor on panel. Simply being shot a few times in the leg and not having that addressed isn't even close to indication of a healing factor, if it was Batman and Daredevil would both have one, and Frank Castle as well.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1. Any thing that would require faster reaction time than a quarter of a second is superhuman speed and reaction. Green Arrow was only feet away from, and he he shot all the arrows out of the air before they made it to him.
2. The OP already spoke... I was right.
3. Except there is evidence to the contrary. Guns have done damage to him before, he's had to get that same damage stitched up, and the threat of damage from them has coerced his cooperation. The only time Blade survived getting stabbed through the chest, he had a magical amulet... not really seeing as that being a check in the healing factor column. Blade was bluffing. He hasn't shown a healing factor on panel. Simply being shot a few times in the leg and not having that addressed isn't even close to indication of a healing factor, if it was Batman and Daredevil would both have one, and Frank Castle as well.

1. the op's clarification changes things, deadshot and any of these guys could conceivably win for the majority.

3 that wasn't the instance i was talking about, i was talking about dracula stabbing him in the chest, and again when hrolf slashed him through the abdomen.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. the op's clarification changes things, deadshot and any of these guys could conceivably win for the majority.

3 that wasn't the instance i was talking about, i was talking about dracula stabbing him in the chest, and again when hrolf slashed him through the abdomen.

Hrolf slashed Blade across the waist, but there is no indication he healed from it. The next time we even see that area on Blade's body is in the next issue, and Blade's costume is completely intact - heroes have regenerating costumes between issue changes all the time. There is no indication he healed from it, and there was no indication it was anything more than a glancing blow in the first place. Off the top of my head, I don't recall what Dracula instance you are referring too but I imagine like everything else it is nothing important.

Originally posted by Trackz
1. it's marksmenship, he aims fast, btu in terms of raw speed it doesn't prove much, yes it requires considerable speed, it doesn't however put him at superhuman levels of speed nor can it be used to say he is faster than any given character.
2. take it up with the op
3.wow, ok for one everything he has said has matched up with what he has done on-panel. he stated that he didn't believe the gun would do damage, there's no evidence to the contrary, rather more evidence in support, but of course that couldn't be used in a KMC fight, however it surely can't be used to prove he is a liar. You're talking about appearances from his MAX series, nice job trying to low ball a character. Blade has been stabbed/slashed through the chest and healed in a panel or two several times, fact. I go based on whats on the panel, you trying to write off the character as a liar because his statements undermine your argument is plain dirty.
Spitfire was slashing his face up with fairly deep wounds as we can see. But by the time the fight was over the deep wounds were gone. Cornell even made a special note to the artist to make sure that those wounds were gone. Tracks...don't get bothered by swank. You know his game by now.